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Japanese Sentence Patterns for Effective Communication.

#51
mafried Wrote:Using the spreadsheet provided by fluxcapacitor, I've generated text-to-speech audio for every sentence in the book using the Misaki voice:

JSPfEC.zip

EDIT: Distribution updated to fixes as of 4 Jul. 2009. I've also removed the .tsv file for now, as I do not believe it is in line with the new forum rules for sharing of copyrighted works.
Necro post Smile

Does anyone have this audio zip? The mediafire link no-longer works Sad
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#52
Does anyone what level is that book, is it ok for N3 after I pass Genki 1 and 2?

Or better go for AIAIJ?


Thanks
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#53
vebaev Wrote:Does anyone what level is that book, is it ok for N3 after I pass Genki 1 and 2?

Or better go for AIAIJ?

Thanks
If you just finished Genk1+2, I'd highly recommend this book, esp. if you want to jumpstart your speaking. Every one should own a copy of this, IMO. Just understand that its goal is to help you communicate effectively in Japanese with Japanese people by teaching you basic patterns of speech - not teach you all the grammar you need to pass N3 or N2. So I would also get AIAIJ, as it covers a huge volume of material not addressed in JSPEC.
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#54
What is AIAIJ?
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#55
ktcgx Wrote:What is AIAIJ?
An Integrated Approach to Intermediate Japanese. http://www.amazon.com/Integrated-Appr-In...e+Japanese
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#56
Ahhhhh, thanks!
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#57
Did anyone knows how many vocab has the book totally?
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#58
I am around a third through this book, and am really loving it. This teaching style seems great, although I think it would be great to supplement it with an ANKI deck.

If anyone here has it, would it be possible to please reupload it? I haven't been able to find it anywhere else.

Thank you very much!

Tom
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#59
The excel spreadsheet links on the first page still work, you'll have to manually import them into Anki.

At the moment, I am in the processes of amending the deck to provide some production cards, after finding my own production skills to be severely lacking! For production, the cards do not specify exactly what to say -- just the pattern:

Code:
Type    Pattern    Polite Level    Tip    Kanji    Meaning
Pattern    X does not exist    Polite    Existance    食べ物が/はありません。    There isn't any food.
Like the audio deck (with the dead link), the cards have had the endings switched with a mix of formal/informal endings. With the cards looking something like so:

Front:
"X does not exist" (Polite)
There isn't any food. (hidden tip)

Back:
<Front>
Example: 食べ物が/はありません。
There isn't any food.

The idea with the deck is that you aren't pushed into memorising the production of "食べ物はありません", but should be creating similar sentences with the pattern. Would anyone be interested in such a deck?
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#60
activeaero Wrote:Example of section 20:

彼の態度はしちょうだったり、大胆だったりします
His attitude is sometimes careful, sometimes bold.

Explanation: "The repeated used of the TARI form of an i-adjective or a na-adjective, followed by the verb suru, expresses alternative states in no particular sequence. It corresponds to the English 'sometimes.....and sometimes....". To obtain the TARI form, add kattari to the stem of i-adjectives, or dattari to the stem of an na-adjective."

It then gives a short list of any new vocabulary words used in the example sentences and that's pretty much it.
Note that the book "Japanese Sentence Patterns for Effective Communication" does also give romaji transcriptions for all the sample sentences, which is most welcome for a lot of readers.
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#61
(2014-10-17, 8:48 am)RawToast Wrote: The idea with the deck is that you aren't pushed into memorising the production of "食べ物はありません", but should be creating similar sentences with the pattern. Would anyone be interested in such a deck?

Yes!
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#62
Can I just add to this thread and say THANK YOU to fluxcapacitor for typing out everything. I was going to start it myself before I decided to check this site on a hunch Smile

Can anyone share what Anki settings are using for their JSPEC deck? Do you do 20 new sentences a day? What do your cards look like?
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#63
Update: I started creating multi-cloze cards using these sentences and adding the explanations from the book as summarized notes. It works great!

Fluxcapacitor, I reiterate, you are truly awesome.
Edited: 2017-07-01, 12:28 pm
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#64
(2017-07-01, 12:28 pm)hooroosha Wrote: Update: I started creating multi-cloze cards using these sentences and adding the explanations from the book as summarized notes. It works great!

Fluxcapacitor, I reiterate, you are truly awesome.

I'm interested in how you format the cards if you don't mind Heart

Syntaxt is part of a sentence pattern, have you find a way to review word order too?

I've found this:

https://fluent-forever.com/how-to-learn-...with-anki/

Quote:Insert the word in the right spot: 
Front –––> Back
Erik, nach Hause (kommt) –> Erik kommt nach Hause.
Erik kommt nach Hause (heute) ––> Erik kommt heute nach Hause
Erik heute nach Hause (kommt) ––> Erik kommt heute nach Hause
Erik kommt heute. (nach Hause) ––> Erik kommt heute nach Hause Heute
Erik nach Hause (kommt) ––> Heute kommt Erik nach Hause (Betonung: heute)
Erik kommt heute nach Hause. (mit der Bahn) ––> Erik kommt heute mit der Bahn nach Hause.
Wie gesagt, Erik heute nach Hause. (kommt) ––> Wie gesagt, Erik kommt heute nach Hause.
Erik kommt heute nach Hause. (Wie gesagt,) ––> Wie gesagt, Erik kommt heute nach Hause.
Erik heute (ankommen) ––> Erik kommt heute an.


do someone thinks that this way of reviewing word order might be useful for japanese too?
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#65
(2017-07-01, 3:33 pm)cophnia61 Wrote:
(2017-07-01, 12:28 pm)hooroosha Wrote: Update: I started creating multi-cloze cards using these sentences and adding the explanations from the book as summarized notes. It works great!

Fluxcapacitor, I reiterate, you are truly awesome.

I'm interested in how you format the cards if you don't mind Heart

Syntaxt is part of a sentence pattern, have you find a way to review word order too?

I've found this:

https://fluent-forever.com/how-to-learn-...with-anki/

Quote:Insert the word in the right spot: 
Front –––> Back
Erik, nach Hause (kommt) –> Erik kommt nach Hause.
Erik kommt nach Hause (heute) ––> Erik kommt heute nach Hause
Erik heute nach Hause (kommt) ––> Erik kommt heute nach Hause
Erik kommt heute. (nach Hause) ––> Erik kommt heute nach Hause Heute
Erik nach Hause (kommt) ––> Heute kommt Erik nach Hause (Betonung: heute)
Erik kommt heute nach Hause. (mit der Bahn) ––> Erik kommt heute mit der Bahn nach Hause.
Wie gesagt, Erik heute nach Hause. (kommt) ––> Wie gesagt, Erik kommt heute nach Hause.
Erik kommt heute nach Hause. (Wie gesagt,) ––> Wie gesagt, Erik kommt heute nach Hause.
Erik heute (ankommen) ––> Erik kommt heute an.


do someone thinks that this way of reviewing word order might be useful for japanese too?

Word order is quite flexible in Japanese as long as the particles are in the right places. Deciding which particle to use after a word is more important (e.g は vs が)

Here is a screenshot of the card I'm using for this JSPEC deck. http://imgur.com/a/B4Xj1

Naturally, I'm going through every sentence and adding clozes... trying to keep to the theme of the chapter that the sentence appeared in, but occasionally, I'm clozing vocabulary as well).
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#66
hooroosha thank you for the answer, I like your card layout where you cloze more than one particle at once, I'll definitely try it!
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