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How to watch Japanese style wrestling "Sumo tournament"?

#1
Three days ago,I just watched the Japanese Sumo program. Now,I am very interested about it.How can I wacth Sumo tournament?
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#2
If you mean watching it live there is 6 tournaments a year of which three in is Tokyo and the other three around Japan. You can find timings and more information here:

http://www.sumo.or.jp/En

http://www.sumo.or.jp/EnTicket/year_schedule
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#3
(2017-03-17, 12:54 am)Hinsudesu Wrote: If you mean watching it live there is 6 tournaments a year of which three in is Tokyo and the other three around Japan. You can find timings and more information here:

http://www.sumo.or.jp/En

http://www.sumo.or.jp/EnTicket/year_schedule

Thanks for your information.but,I'm not in japan. I just want to wacth it on TV or computer Smile
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(2017-03-17, 4:29 am)ysfanne Wrote:
(2017-03-17, 12:54 am)Hinsudesu Wrote: If you mean watching it live there is 6 tournaments a year of which three in is Tokyo and the other three around Japan. You can find timings and more information here:

http://www.sumo.or.jp/En

http://www.sumo.or.jp/EnTicket/year_schedule

Thanks for your information.but,I'm not in japan. I just want to wacth it on TV or computer Smile

If TV Japan is in your area, matches tend to be shown and replayed late at night.
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#5
When there is a tournament you can usually find a condensed video of the upper rank matches on the NHK World video on demand site. They're usually delayed a day or so from the actual matches.
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/vod/sumo/
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#6
(2017-03-17, 5:04 pm)kashiwagi Wrote: When there is a tournament you can usually find a condensed video of the upper rank matches on the NHK World video on demand site. They're usually delayed a day or so from the actual matches.
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/vod/sumo/

thank you Smile
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#7
I hope you got to see the last few days this tournament because they were amazing! So much drama between Kotoshogiku, Terunofuji, Harumafuji and Kisenosato!! In addition to what was said above I'll add that you can watch sumo on youtube.

Jason's All-Sumo channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/JasonsinJap...umochannel
Kintamayama's channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Kintamayama...intamayama

Kintamayama's channel it great if you only want to see the action from the tachiai. He also posts juryo stuff. Kintamayama does not include spoken commentary (there are brief written comments in English) although he uses the NHK Japanese audio. Jason's All-Sumo Channel covers only select matches but shows the whole match from when the rikishi enter the dohyo to when they leave. Jason adds his own English commentary in addition to the NHK English audio. Jason's Japanese pronunciation isn't always great (it has been improving over the years) but he is a great guy and really puts his heart into his videos. Comments on both channel's videos are usually very insightful and many people watch both channels. Personally, I watch Jason's channel first and then use kintamayama to fill in the gaps in Jason's coverage.

Welcome the the sumo community ysfanne!
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#8
Can someone explain why everyone is mad at this guy? I keep hearing about it, but I just can't figure out what the problem is with what he did:


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#9
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#10
Here is the schedule the 2017 tournaments:
http://www.jnto.go.jp/eng/pdf/special/sumo.pdf

It lists the start and end dates for each of the 6 grand sumo tournaments held throughout the year.
Tournaments are held every odd month through the year (January, March, May,etc).
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#11
(2017-03-26, 7:04 pm)Stansfield123 Wrote: Can someone explain why everyone is mad at this guy? I keep hearing about it, but I just can't figure out what the problem is with what he did:
I have no idea how much you know about sumo so forgive me if this sounds patronizing.

Kotoshogiku was demoted from ozeki (the second highest rank) down to sekiwake after two tournaments where he failed to get 8+ wins over 15 matches. Ozeki is a comfortable rank where you have some leeway for error and injury, sekiwake and below is much more ruthless and a bad tournament means you fall down the rankings. Ozeki who are demoted to sekiwake get a final chance to be immediately promoted back to ozeki if they get 10+ wins. Many rikishi who fail to return to ozeki retire as a matter of pride (rather than try to climb back up the ladder to ozeki rank and risk further demotion).   

In this bout Kotoshogiku had a 8-5 record so he couldn't lose again if he wanted to regain his ozeki rank with the minimum of 10-5. Terunofuji, who is at the ozeki rank, used mind games (with the false start) and then a henka. While henka are legal, there is an unspoken honour code for the higher ranks (ozeki and yokozuna) that they need to take their opponent's charge head on and defeat them with 'skill' rather than tricks. The henka has a time and a place and many people feel that, because Kotoshogiku's rank/career was on the line, this was neither of those. Many people think that, given Kotoshogiku's long record in sumo, Terunofuji should have given him a 'fair' chance to win.  

The flip side is that, if Kotoshogiku really was really worthy of being an ozeki, he should have been prepared for a henka.  

Overall, while totally legal, some people feel that Terunofuji didn't fight with honour in a match that was pivotal to Kotoshogiku's career.
Edited: 2017-03-26, 11:20 pm
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#12
Thank you, Reh94. I don't know a whole lot about Sumo (I know the ranks and stuff, but I don't really understand the strategy and all the moves). That definitely explains it better than "boo, that was such bullshit!!!" Big Grin .

Still, to me it looked like Kotoshogiku lunged and kept his center of gravity low, and if Terunofuji had taken him on head on, he would've put himself in a very weak position. Again, I don't really understand sumo, but I know a little bit about similar sports (American football players face similar matchups all the time), and it seems to me like this move was Terunofuji's only chance to stay balanced, with the other guy lunging at him that low.
Edited: 2017-03-27, 12:46 pm
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#13
I don't know anything about sumo but I find this situation very interesting. I play a lot of games and I find that tactics people dismiss as being cheap generally play in to the meta in interesting ways.

If we think about the more general situation of what the sport would be like without the option to henka I think it's pretty obvious why it's not outlawed. Henka provides a counter to people who blindly rush forward and so forces opponents to look for and create opportunities to attack. Without it the dominant strategy would be the mad rush as soon as the match starts, which I think even people who dislike henka would agree is less entertaining.

Looking more specifically at this match and things get even more interesting. The commentators push the narrative that Kotoshogiku was expecting an honorable match and Terunofuji lacked the sportsmanship to give it to him, but to me it looks more like Kotoshogiku tried to game the meta and Terunofuji didn't let him. Kotoshogiku charged forwards expecting that his opponents charge would be sealed by the threat of a henka and his opponents henka would be sealed by the backlash he'd receive for using it. He deliberately forced Terunofuji to choose between loss of face and loss of match.

I'd be interested in a more sumo literate take on this. I notice that the people in the comments think the false start was an attempt to bait kotoshogiku's rush.
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#14
(2017-03-27, 7:00 pm)Splatted Wrote: If we think about the more general situation of what the sport would be like without the option to henka I think it's pretty obvious why it's not outlawed. Henka provides a counter to people who blindly rush forward and so forces opponents to look for and create opportunities to attack. Without it the dominant strategy would be the mad rush as soon as the match starts, which I think even people who dislike henka would agree is less entertaining.
I don't have a tonne of time so I won't be able to give you a good, detailed reply but I wanted to say a few things. I agree with you that the henka shouldn't be made illegal. I also think it's an important part of the meta. I will say however that there are many other tools/techniques that can be used to similar effect which are seen as more honourable. For example, straight from the tachiai you can grab your opponent by the throat and redirect the force of their charge upward. You can also slap them across the head (any strike is legal as long as it isn't made with a closed fist) and redirect their force (and their face) towards your shoulder. For a while the shoulder blast was the go-to move for the Yokozuna Hakuho from the tachiai. On occasion his opponent would be hit so hard he would black out which is partially why Hakuho stopped using it as often. Another rikishi, Osunaarashi, became famous for using his forearm/elbow to uppercut the opponent as he charged in. Overall, there are many techniques that can stop an all out charge while still standing your ground. It's the fact that you never engage the opponent that makes many people dislike the henka.  

Also I will add that not every rikishi favours the “blind rush” style of sumo. Many rikishi who prefer belt-based techniques do like to rush in, but rikishi who prefer pushing and hand strikes, such as Kotoyuki, usually avoid trying to make body to body contact.

100% I think the false start was a mind game to get Kotoshogiku to commit to a charge. Kotoshogiku is well known for his blind tachiai. When Kotoshogiku thinks he can get away with an all-out charge he gives it his all. I don't think he would gamble his career on Terunofuji choosing to save face though. Terunofuji is a man who always seemed to place more importance on the win than on the method of the win.
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#15
Thanks for the great reply REH94. It's exectly what I was hoping for when I made my post. I see I was pretty much completely off the mark with everything I said, except the part about not knowing anything about sumo. Orz
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