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Japanese Language Study Log: Avatarmeem

#1
Hello everyone,
Thank you for this amazing site, its a great aid for my road to the Japanese language.

I have officially started learning Japanese around 26th-27th of Feb 2017,  23-24 of Feb 2017.

writing this log sure will help me tracking my learning and understanding what I am facing, and keep clear idea about  my future plans... hopefully also will keep me committed.
My long term goal is to have a good Japanese to read almost everything.


I have learned Hiragana 100%  (I have learned that before )
Katakana: Man, I hate katakana but yea 80%

My plan:
is to finish Remembering The Kanji 1 as soon as I can by memorising 25 Kanji per day..
it was easy at the beginning but it gets bit overwhelming the more I learn.. im just not used to this xD
Reviewing is the key though!

Now im at 275 Kanji! 
and I decided today to add some vocabulary, 10 words a day.. 
I also listen to Japanesepod101 almost everyday for 30-50 mins when I walk outside ( but I didnt get the chance to walk the past two days Sad  )

Hopefully, when I finish RTK1, with a good small base of vocabulary I will start with the grammar books. ( Genki I )
when I get the basic grammar, I WANT TO read a lot of readings.. children stories, folk tales.. etc
In my experience reading stories and passages are the key, as one can find vocabulary in context , see grammar in action and have better experience in understanding the nature of the language.
Edited: 2017-08-30, 3:05 am
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#2
I will try to update my journal whenever I feel like and at least once a week..

Three days since my post and that 75 new kanji got memorised.. there is good days and bad day but I tried my best to not skip any day! I want to go through RTK I asap.

the story technique works so great that I am overwhelmed .. memorising and revising old kanji takes around one hour and thirty minute to two hours.. but when I get bored and then I try to push myself.. with my morning drowsiness.. the kanji study can get extended to four hours! and that is why I should take mini breaks and do something with my drowsiness .. I study Japanese the first thing in the morning..
Althu memorising Kanji isn't that time consuming ( if I focused ) but I don't seems to be able to study vocab or go into deep stuff, better focus finishing the Kanji recognition first! but yet i dont want to spend 3 to four months with only RTK, thus I decided to go thru the grammar just to get familiar with them, this will make things in the future less intimidating.
One of the good easy grammar resource I found is this video series : https://goo.gl/0f2VeP
I think I'll keep watch these 1-3 videos a day and might even repeat them ... of course along with japanesepod101.
Edited: 2017-03-09, 2:11 pm
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#3
Hang in there! It is tough when the reviews start to pile up.

Don't be afraid to mix RTK with other methods. Yes, lots of folks here have managed to knock out all of RTK in 4 months or so, but there is still lots to learn after that. If you want to make RTK slower and learn other things (such as vocab or grammar) at the same time, that's not a sin. Just be consistent about whatever you decide to do.

Personally, I used other methods to learn and only recently returned to RTK just to learn how to write the kanji (I can already read them). There is no wrong way as long as you keep moving forward.
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(2017-03-09, 8:03 pm)tanaquil Wrote: Hang in there! It is tough when the reviews start to pile up.

Don't be afraid to mix RTK with other methods. Yes, lots of folks here have managed to knock out all of RTK in 4 months or so, but there is still lots to learn after that. If you want to make RTK slower and learn other things (such as vocab or grammar) at the same time, that's not a sin. Just be consistent about whatever you decide to do.

Personally, I used other methods to learn and only recently returned to RTK just to learn how to write the kanji (I can already read them). There is no wrong way as long as you keep moving forward.
Thank you very much for your comment! Yes, RTK feels like the step zero, step one is when I finish it and move to grammar and vocab! ( but i will try to mix vocab and grammar once I can ).
Consistency is the key! but I wanna finish RTK 1 asap, I feel it going to be the fundamental to start probably learning Japanese and there is no going back when i finish RTK1.. because ..well I didnt put all these hours everyday learning complex characters for nothing.. 


now im at 425 Kanji, usually I have to write down the kanji at least once , when I write it down I feel this kanji became registered in my brain.. but the past three days I was VERY busy and had to memorise these kanji while i was out/in my long car rides/ between my tasks.. and didn't had the opportunity to write them down and that really felt bit odd. Thu I memorise them but still I feel like they are not registred in my brain xD. I'll try to write them down once I finish some of my deadlines.. and maybe I will take 2 days break once I reach 500 kanji, in this break I will do full revision, just not to feel lost when I continue. ( I did revision of all the 375 kanji and got score 93%, not bad... but still long way for all these kanji to be in my long term memory)
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#5
Here is my mark of 500 kanji, and nope, I take back taking a break!
Will keep at it, and I'm still jumping from a different material to another while studying RTK 1, I decided I shall memorize Genki 1 vocab so that might help when I study it after RTK 1.

Anyway, I don't think I will post anything till I finish RTK, maybe when I feel I need motivation?.
aaand... Happy Birthday to me, I became 25 years old today and I got a bronze medal for surviving life till now.. dude year 24 was a roll coaster but can see how stable and amazing year 25 is going to be! Al alhamdullilah.
Edited: 2017-03-15, 4:29 pm
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#6
Happy birthday and congratulations! Gambatte and keep studying.
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#7
@Tanquil Thank you so much!
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An update,
Kanji: 975
Genji: Book 1 Chapter 5

I try my best not to miss any day.... yet there was one day I missed studying new kanjis but I did all my reviews thu ,( usually 100 RTK and 15 ~30 Genki vocabs cards )
I continue my Genki vocab and studying Genki 1 - now I'm at chapter 5 Smile
However, the last four days was really bad, even though I knew I will be this busy, I planned my day to meet my goals, but my health has failed me, my work outside the town took all my energy ( and I was really anxious ) and by the end of the day I was dead tired. No new kanji or even reviews. Now I have around 300+ cards are piled up, that's no big deal, I can finish all the reviews tommorow.

The thing is, now I'm even busier than my average busy days
In the top of that, there is going to be a longer hellish week like the last four days I mentioned above, looking into the bright side I am staying in my town so I will be less anxious. In my very busy days I don't really care about new kanji but I the reviews to me are must do!.

let's see how things will turn out, I'll do my best o/
Edited: 2017-04-09, 3:16 pm
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#8
Ugh, I hear you. I am going into what I pray will be the last of my hell weeks (I've pretty much been running hell weeks at work since mid-January, with the worst being mid-March until now). I have tried so, so hard to maintain my anki reviews, and I've mostly succeeded, but I'm not sure about this week. I may have to throw them to the wind for a week or so.

I'm glad I was well plugged into restarting my anki reviews (after a long down time) before this spell at work started, because what a mess. Finding time to read has been even harder.

Life happens, the key is getting back to it. I've twice let my anki reviews lapse for more than 6 months, and getting back on track was not fun, but always worth it. If I can stay on track into the summer I'll be golden.
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(2017-04-09, 5:23 pm)tanaquil Wrote: Ugh, I hear you. I am going into what I pray will be the last of my hell weeks (I've pretty much been running hell weeks at work since mid-January, with the worst being mid-March until now). I have tried so, so hard to maintain my anki reviews, and I've mostly succeeded, but I'm not sure about this week. I may have to throw them to the wind for a week or so.

I'm glad I was well plugged into restarting my anki reviews (after a long down time) before this spell at work started, because what a mess. Finding time to read has been even harder.

Life happens, the key is getting back to it. I've twice let my anki reviews lapse for more than 6 months, and getting back on track was not fun, but always worth it. If I can stay on track into the summer I'll be golden.

Wow, more than 6 months! I can imagine gigantic mountains of review cards piled up! o.o  and exactly what you have said, the key is getting back to it, and boy how hard was it to get back to it and restoring my Japanese learning mindset.
I always try to convince my brain how much I will regret it if I didn't continue! and it works  Wink


My progression right now:
RTK: 1700 kanji! around 500 kanji to go.
Genki: Just finished chapter 9, now working on the workbook ( I only spend around an hour in Genki almost every day  Dodgy )  
I also did many listening practices by listening to Japanese Graded Readers Level 2 Vol1 before reading them. They are very good and I loved the stories! They are a bit above my level ( supposed to be N4 level ) but they are not as hard as I thought they would be, 4 stories out of the 5 were very comprehensive by just listening to them ... over and over again xD.

My goal in June is to finish both Genki 1 and RTK 1.

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#10
Congratulations ! Your almost done with RTK1. Good luck with your June's goals !
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#11
@Lithern Thank you thank you!! Big Grin I have achieved my June goals way earlier than I thought ( increased my Kanji intake to 30-33 kanji per day) I was so happy that I have finished RTK and week after it Genki 1! 
After finishing my books, studying felts so heavy and  I allowed myself to sleep in slumber for almost two weeks.
I felt so guilty, everything felt so heavy and I needed a small break.

thus I  declared it an end of a semester, and 1st of July to be a start of a new one. Big Grin Big Grin


AvatarMeem first self-made First Semester Report Card:
23th Feburarery 2017 -  25th June 2017
Self-assigned grade: B+ 
In semester 1 I have:
- learned Hiragana and Katakana
- Memorized RTK I the lazy way.
- Genki 1 Text book
- Japanese Graded Readers Level 2, Volume 1. The first four stories except for the last story 一休さん which I found it bit harder. 
Note:
- Katakana is still VERY annoying to read.
- listening to numbers and dates are hard but there is a good improvement.
- Production of sentences is a bit weak.

Here is my plan for my second semester. 
1st July 2017 - 10th October 
( two weeks vacation around mid-July, small eye surgery but kinda long recovery time )

Grammar :
Genki 2 textbook

Vocabulary:
The first month: finish the remaining Genki Vocabs, ( around 550 words  )
Second and third month: 2001 Kanji Odyssey, Level 1 ( 555 kanji)
(ideally starting on Level 2 also )

Reading&listening:
Read as much as I can from Japanese Graded Readers Volume 2 and 3.
listen to the audio multiple times first before reading and analyzing the text.
I still listen and reread the stories from Volume 1.

Things I will do differently:
Before I focused on RTK more than Genki, now I have Genki to be my priority, however, my speed is still the same. ( around a chapter per week ).
Keep nice notes that I can actually review from.
will start writing more sentences in separated notebook, as well as copying textbook’s sentences.
more writing by hands rather than answering Anki flash cards by typing. 
always read aloud.


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btw, is it possible to change my username?
Edited: 2017-07-01, 3:03 pm
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#12
To change your user name, click your present name at the top left, then under "Your Profile" click "Change Username" and follow the instructions.

P.S. I moved this thread to the Group study section where the other study logs are.
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(2017-07-02, 9:54 am)Katsuo Wrote: To change your user name, click your present name at the top left, then under "Your Profile" click "Change Username" and follow the instructions.

I believe you might be seeing this option because you are a moderator but I don't think us normies have access to that  Wink .
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(2017-07-02, 2:05 pm)karageko Wrote:
(2017-07-02, 9:54 am)Katsuo Wrote: To change your user name, click your present name at the top left, then under "Your Profile" click "Change Username" and follow the instructions.

I believe you might be seeing this option because you are a moderator but I don't think us normies have access to that  Wink .

I don't see it either. It'd be nice to have!
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(2017-07-02, 2:51 pm)gaiaslastlaugh Wrote:
(2017-07-02, 2:05 pm)karageko Wrote:
(2017-07-02, 9:54 am)Katsuo Wrote: To change your user name, click your present name at the top left, then under "Your Profile" click "Change Username" and follow the instructions.

I believe you might be seeing this option because you are a moderator but I don't think us normies have access to that  Wink .

I don't see it either. It'd be nice to have!

I already miss your 貧乏神 avatar a lot. If you change your username too, I'd no longer know what to believe in :-D
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(2017-07-02, 7:25 pm)faneca Wrote:
(2017-07-02, 2:51 pm)gaiaslastlaugh Wrote:
(2017-07-02, 2:05 pm)karageko Wrote:
(2017-07-02, 9:54 am)Katsuo Wrote: To change your user name, click your present name at the top left, then under "Your Profile" click "Change Username" and follow the instructions.

I believe you might be seeing this option because you are a moderator but I don't think us normies have access to that  Wink .

I don't see it either. It'd be nice to have!

I already miss your 貧乏神 avatar a lot. If you change your username too, I'd no longer know what to believe in :-D

Awwww Smile I kinda loved that avatar too. Maybe it'll stage a comeback. And no worries - after some thought, I realized a username change at this point would cause mass confusion to people reading the archives. Probably better we don't have this feature!
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Checking further, it seems
• Only moderators can change their username
• Moderators can't change another member's username
So if you wish to change your username you need to contact the administrator.
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#18
I am surprised to have new comments here, I thought no one read my logs haha.
Thank you Katsuo for moving my thread to the appropriate section.  About the username, now I think about it I am okay to keep my username.

Here is my update for July~~:

-Grammar I am almost half through in Genki 2 !! - Just finished chapter 17
I didn't expect to go through it as fast as I do right now,  So far I found it much much easier than the first book.
Also, having a separated note book for exercises and grammar explanation helped me a lot, now I see fewer mistakes in my workbook answers.

-Reading: I finished Vol 2 of the Japanese Graded Readers. I really enjoyed the informational book about Fuji mountain. The other stories are really nice too, but the grammar and vocab are becoming VERY repetitive, it became very easy for my likeness. 
I also tried to read two articles from NHK EASY,  I'm  happy I could read what I thought far fetched a few months ago.

-Vocabulary: Finished all Genki vocab last week, what a horrible deck it was, lol. can't complain thu, the good side that it forced me to look for example sentences by myself. I also enjoyed adding pictures, I would google ワンビース( then the new word) and find a photo of Luffy saying something using the new word, I get really excited when I understand  One Piece panels  ( I only add panels I can understand, no super complicated sentences). Also, I added a lot pictures of book covers and advertising posters. ( here it is fine to add some complicated stuff ) I try to read what is written on them every time I review, I can't understand them yet but found it helpful.  

While working on the rest of Genki, I want to keep learning new vocab into my little vocab pool;  I started Kanji Odyssey but I think it is not the time for it yet. gotta do the 2k core. I have mixed feelings about the core decks, but I think I need to do it to get some basic vocabulary from it.


Listening:  I was learning the word 工場 and no matter how many time I reviewed this word It refuses to stick. I then decided to youtube ちびまる子ちゃん  工場  lol. I watched the episode and got the word memorized instantly! I was surprised that I could understand more than I thought! I watched more Maruko episodes and also ドラえもん.I found Doraemon easier than Little Maruko chan, surprisingly easy to understand ( or too lucky to find easy episodes to watch? )


Yesterday I downloaded HelloTalk, honestly amazing app! Just trying to type simple things in Japanese and being able to communicate with natives feels very rewarding! 


My surgery had to post pointed, and I had to post pointed even further, yet not date but it has to be in August. I also will be traveling so it won't be a productive month Sad, and I can't wait to get this surgery done with no complication before or after.
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Edited: 2017-07-29, 4:26 pm
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#19
Great progress, Avatarmeem - keep it up!!

I think both ちびまる子ちゃん and サザエさん get underrated as beginner/intermediate animes, or otherwise people simply don't know about them. They're examples of programs that are very popular within Japan, but are relatively unknown even by Western anime fans. (サザエさん  is actually the world's longest running animated TV show at 47 years.)
Edited: 2017-07-30, 9:12 am
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Yea, I noticed how Maruko chan isnt popular in the West, the only reason I got to know Maruko chan that I used to watch it as a kid dubbed in Arabic. Im a Middle Eastern, It was very popular back in the day, it is one of these shows that you can relate to a lot! really funny how most of the children found Maruko and her family very relatable to them thu the cultural differences that we barely noticed.

Its my first time hearing about サザエさん! wow, I love family anime so much! I will add it to my list! Thank you.
Edited: 2017-07-30, 11:02 am
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(2017-07-30, 11:01 am)AvatarMeem Wrote: wow, I love family anime so much!

Please try ポヨポヨ—it is really good.
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(2017-07-30, 12:30 pm)fkb9g Wrote:
(2017-07-30, 11:01 am)AvatarMeem Wrote: wow, I love family anime so much!

Please try ポヨポヨ—it is really good.

Oh! Thank you for recommendation, too much to watch - which is really good- i have around 6 hours flight after few days! might watch it on the plane! 

I honestly think I will keep watching a lot of animes like ちびまる子ちゃん、サザエさん、ドラエモン and now ポヨポヨ. Easy to follow, and you wont get lost even if you don't understand 60% of what they are saying. I want to try to avoid my mistakes while learning English; it is - and still - hard to understand the english spoken series without english subtitle, while I have zero problem communicating with English speakers, following with my university classes and understanding video games cut scenes,watching any reality shows and youtube videos. I listen to these more than in my native language. but when it comes to series.. nope, because I had developed a habit in my brain with some unreal fears that series are hard to understand.
Edited: 2017-07-30, 1:14 pm
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#23
Ugh, my Anki deck got messed up, I'm not sure what happen but it seems my pre-made Anki deck that was wonderfully organized and distributed under sub parts decided to move into new default deck, so all cards can live together... :D im so frustrated...but at least my progress didn't wiped out.

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Here an update for my progress.

August: no studies whatssoever ( work, health and travel ) but lots of listening to audio books and children stories on youtube, one of my favorite is 幸福な王子 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-0LlLmKaXI


In the glorious month of September I finished the rest of Genki 2, I think I kinda rushed but the same time I felt my progress is slow.
I should review honestly, but review sometime is like toture to me. Hence more reading should be done to stick what I have learned ...
I've read Graded Readers level 3 volume 1 and still on reading volume 2.  All stories are great, they are easy to understand, definitely a confidence booster. however one of the stories かげの恋人 is surprisingly harder than the rest!  Oh also level 3 doesn't cover alot of grammar points that found in Genki 2 ( specially causative and passive - causative), I  soon I need to move to level 4.
I also readよつばと!every forum recommandition, this manga is hilarious!!


I honestly did not want to move on to the next text book until I do more readings and writing practices and have better grasp on what I know, but Tobira temptation was so strong! I already started it, so good so far!!

On March is my 1 year mark in Japanese learning.  and so that is my deadline for Tobira and  around 3000 vocabulary ( I thiiiink im around 1200 words.)


Oh forgot to mention, I took J-cat test the other day,
I for some reason got around 3-5 grammar questions only, while other sections around 10-12 questions. I wonder if something went wrong?
I also missed around 3 listening question, but my score is good.. I think I got lucky with my answers xD

here is my scores
Listening 36
Vocabulary 30
Grammar 12
Reading 39
Total 117
Edited: 2017-10-09, 7:48 am
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#24
I have only gotten a couple of grammar questions when I've taken J-CAT. The grammar time goes by really quick.
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(2017-10-09, 8:01 am)satogaeru Wrote: I have only gotten a couple of grammar questions when I've taken J-CAT.   The grammar time goes by really quick.

Oh thats suck, then I really did take 12 in my grammar sections lol!
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