I took 1-kyuu a couple of years ago but didn't pass, and I haven't been doing much actual studying since then. Now I'm trying to get back into the swing of things so I can take the test again this year, but have a long way to go with my expired cards... anyone else in a similar spot? If so, you too can join the 1000+ expired cards support group.
1200 expired in Anki- I just got sick of seeing Kanji that I've never seen in real life, and I live in Japan. I've started going through RevTK lite to see if that'll make a diffference, and I'm trying the site this time instead of Anki. It's sad because I spent 3 dilligent months doing RTK and now I've forgotten a lot. I'm not sure the time was worth it when I really wasn't learning Japanese, just character meanings.
I have about 100 reviews that I do a day right now and I just finished RTK yesterday with 1544 in 4 or more reviews. 1000 is like 10 days, but I think I could plow thorugh at least 500 in a day because I know I would need to get it done.
I was there at the beginning of the year (1300+ expired). I didn't have much motivation to review after I finished adding new cards, so I let it slide since October or so. I just now caught up. It was tough, but I remembered a lot more than I thought I would. The first few review sessions were terrible, but then my brain finally got back in the kanji groove and my retention rates now are about the same as before, if not better (because I am reviewing mostly Box 4+ cards).
Every now and again I get the newsletter from my old university. It is full of stories of graduates who have gone on to achieve great things. Unfortunately in the decade or so since I graduated I didn't really achieve much. But reading those stories made me feel like a loser.
Sometimes when I read this forum, I also feel like a loser because people seem to be mastering japanese at a great speed, and zooming through heisig in a few weeks.
Fortunately this thread came along and I realize that for a lot of people learning japanese is a struggle too with lots of false starts. So thanks for reminding me that not everyone can master japanese with ease !
Incidentally, I was without internet access for a few days. And even before that, I had neglected a few days. I'm still in the 1600s, but I've gotten 500 expired cards (and the same 10 forgotten cards since I stopped reviewing). I *will* review these. I haven't given up. I've dug myself out of a similarly large hole. I agree, it's not impossible. You just have to tackle it. Since I've stopped reviewing though, I've noticed less and less cards get added to the expired stacks. It makes sense, the ones that expire more often are the ones I forget from reviews, since I'm not reviewing, they don't get put back into the system.
I'm about halfway to the 1000+ Expired Cards Club, but I don't intend to join, at least not yet.
Honestly I stopped worrying about reviewing.... Once I got all those stories in my head I just took on formal stuff (like KO2001 or KM) and native stuff (like berserk , deathnote , fuji news network ) ....Reviewing takes care of itself through reading and anki-mining-production The story and the keyword is just a shortcut , as heisig acknowleges himself, remember ? actually even shortcut is an understatement : it's more like those two little wheels on the side of the bycicle or like the crutch for the tough football player who got his leg broken ? do you still need the wheels once you know how to ride a bike ? do you steel the crutch once you're healed ? on the contrary it's crippling you more than anything else. You can't move as fast as you should.
The anti heisig are definetely right when they say that kanji don't mean s.... if there's no connection with vocabulary . Now I just see vocabulary for most of the kanjis , often the story and once in a while a keyword . When I stumble on a brand new kanji I just get a look at the story I laid out monthes before and everything's back in my head in a a couple of minutes. I use the story and the keyword for some weeks and eventually it just become the same as the bulk I learned : I don't even bother to remember an arbitrary keyword of wich I have no practical use for and that just gets in my way. I intend to speak and understand japanese like a japanese .I don't even think it's useless to review , I think it's harmful . RTK is just a gate for total foreigner : why should we always wait on the threshold even for a single second ? we're not newcomers anymore.
so there's 2023 expired card in my reviewing the kanji stack and I don't intend to change that....in my opinion the community is far more worth of attention.
From: Eugene OR USA Registered: 2008-08-26 Posts: 122
571... I keep trying to claw my way back and my fail rate is high enough that it makes things worse (because some many go back into the fast-cycle early piles). I have to say it is comforting that I haven't hit 1,000.... long weekend so maybe I can hack the pile down a bit at a time.