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Reply #1 - 2012 July 12, 9:22 am
Miyumera
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I remember reading a thread on here about the (don't quote me... )... 10,001 kanji.. or something ridiculous like that is a kanji that doesn't really exist and apparently heisig mentioned it somewhere in the supplement (which I don't see). ?  Does anyone know what I'm talking about?...

And then there's this kanji that I see in jarvik7's profile pic that's also apparently fake.. Where was that kanji from again? a japanese shop?

I've been looking for the thread again but can't find it, it's one of those things where if you can't remember the answer, you just can't let it go til you do.

Thanks

Reply #2 - 2012 July 12, 9:52 am
Fleskmos
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Could this be one of the characters you're looking for?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bi%C3%A1ng … ng_noodles

Reply #3 - 2012 July 12, 9:52 am
Katsuo
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Biang biang noodles. Here's an old thread about it.

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Reply #4 - 2012 July 12, 10:28 am
lardycake
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Seems like an extended version of my avatar. I think mine is a place name, but could be wrong.

Last edited by lardycake (2012 July 12, 10:29 am)

Reply #5 - 2012 July 12, 4:12 pm
Miyumera
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Ah yes that's the character.. ok.. biang. interesting.  thank you

and no it's not the thread i was reading before... i was reading about some extra kanji that doesn't really exist and it was coined a heisig frame number of ... some ridiculous number...

Reply #6 - 2012 July 12, 4:22 pm
Katsuo
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Miyumera wrote:

and no it's not the thread i was reading before... i was reading about some extra kanji that doesn't really exist and it was coined a heisig frame number of ... some ridiculous number...

Do you mean this thread about 幽霊文字?

Reply #7 - 2012 July 12, 4:36 pm
gdaxeman
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Miyumera wrote:

and no it's not the thread i was reading before... i was reading about some extra kanji that doesn't really exist and it was coined a heisig frame number of ... some ridiculous number...

There's some talk about this character and its 'ridiculous number' (50,001) in the thread about the Remembering the Hanzi 2 book; this rcloud's post explains it:

"It is the final character Heisig presents (in a second postscript of the book). He used 50,000 as an estimate of the number of characters in a modern dictionary and as this isn't included in modern dictionaries he presents it as the final character... #50,001."

About the number, I should say that the Wenlin 4 dictionary has 75,000+ hanzi but it still doesn't include this character (though it has a very similar one without the "heart" primitive).

Reply #8 - 2012 July 12, 4:50 pm
Miyumera
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YES! this is the thread! great memory! Thank you! I can sleep now.  Thanks all for your tries.

and.. no wonder I couldn't find it.. it's part of the hanzi forum...

gdaxeman wrote:

Miyumera wrote:

and no it's not the thread i was reading before... i was reading about some extra kanji that doesn't really exist and it was coined a heisig frame number of ... some ridiculous number...

There's some talk about this character and its 'ridiculous number' (50,001) in the thread about the Remembering the Hanzi 2 book; this rcloud's post explains it:

"It is the final character Heisig presents (in a second postscript of the book). He used 50,000 as an estimate of the number of characters in a modern dictionary and as this isn't included in modern dictionaries he presents it as the final character... #50,001."

About the number, I should say that the Wenlin 4 dictionary has 75,000+ hanzi but it still doesn't include this character (though it has a very similar one without the "heart" primitive).

Reply #9 - 2012 July 12, 5:05 pm
Thora
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Toshiromiballza contributed this collection of oddities which you might find interesting:

A list of some of the weirdest looking kanji EVER:
http://www.geocities.jp/f9305710/henkanji.html

Visually remarkable and a few of the explanations are fascinating. Some ancient, some not found in dictionaries, some Korean, some abbreviations, some writer-concoctions, etc.

Reply #10 - 2012 July 12, 6:10 pm
Miyumera
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Cool some look like hieroglyphics . thanks for sharing smile

Reply #11 - 2012 July 12, 7:11 pm
Zarxrax
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Wow, some interesting characters there!
On that topic, I'm reminded of a character that one of my Japanese professors showed me back when I was still a beginner. He drew 女 surrounded by 3 男、and he said this is a character for 'rape'. Anyone ever heard of that one?

Last edited by Zarxrax (2012 July 12, 7:11 pm)

Reply #12 - 2012 July 12, 7:13 pm
Miyumera
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..lol.. was that supposed to be a joke or is that for real?

Zarxrax wrote:

Wow, some interesting characters there!
On that topic, I'm reminded of a character that one of my Japanese professors showed me back when I was still a beginner. He drew 女 surrounded by 3 男、and he said this is a character for 'rape'. Anyone ever heard of that one?

Reply #13 - 2012 July 12, 7:22 pm
HonyakuJoshua
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姦 is the only ji i can think of that matches it

Reply #14 - 2012 July 12, 7:28 pm
Zarxrax
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He was being completely serious about it, as far as I could tell.

Edit: maybe this is the one i was thinking of? 嬲

Last edited by Zarxrax (2012 July 12, 7:35 pm)

Reply #15 - 2012 July 12, 9:56 pm
JimmySeal
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Zarxrax wrote:

He was being completely serious about it, as far as I could tell.

Edit: maybe this is the one i was thinking of? 嬲

I'm guessing that's the one you were thinking of, but as far as I can tell, "rape" isn't one of its meanings:
http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi- … cgi?1B_v5r

姦, however, is used in a word for rape: 強姦.

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