I'm not an english native speaker and Heisig method, which I tried, revealed to be too difficult to me (probably I don't remember stories because they're not in my language?). So I went with the "classic method" using KanjiABC (that strongly relies on primitives).
Well, it was a good method, lot of hurdles obviously, but still not enough for me. I think learning kanji is sometime too detached from learning words, but even if you don't think so, the idea in this thread should be useful 'cause it's still about vocabulary building and, let's be honest, who doesn't need that? ^__^
I've seen a few thread with some people really good at managing database(? well, let's say "kanji list"), so I hope someone here can help.
Do you have (or can you easily create) a list of words made only by kanji of a certain JLPT level or grade? The idea would be to have one word for each pronounce a certain kanji have (for each kanji of the level I choose). Each word should be a compound of kanji picked from the same (or easier) jlpt level (or school grade). If there isn't such a word then it should be picked a word with that kanji and a kanji from the kanji list of the next jlpt level (or the pronounce for that kanji should be pointed out as missing a corresponding word). If there are words repeated in the final list, one of them shoul be deleter or the next (in frequency order) valid word should enter the list to replace one of them.
Well, this would obviously be the best scenario possible, I don't know what can or can't be done. ...but I think such a list would be really helpful to remember pronounces and to build your own vocabulary, but handpicking each kanji would be too much of an hurdle for most of users.
So... what I'm asking is "what can/can't be done about this, using db such as kanji dic or edict etc.?" I know I don't really know what I'm talking about (that's why I'm asking), so if it's a ridiculous idea... please, just spare me from the harshest words^^;;
From: London United Kingdom Registered: 2011-12-10 Posts: 257
I can tell you now that this can be done... But I'm not going to do it cause I don't have the time or willpower I've seen decks with compounds/sentences ranked by heisig level, so if people have done that there's a chance they've done what you're looking for too
There are Japanese keyword lists that were made a few years back. I'm sure they're still floating around. I'll caution against it unless you're already well into Japanese (just not heavy into Kanji). In addition, it's possible there's a Heisig keyword list for your native language made by people. Lastly, if you have access to a Kanji definition/description that's in your native language, you could make your own keywords.
Tank you for your reply, guys ^__^ Actually these lists wouldn't be for me, 'cause I've studied something like 3000 kanji (jouyou, jinmeiyou, some hyougaiji) and now I just read and try to keep myself from forgetting them^^
Also I have access to a list with definition/pronunciation in my language, 'cause I've made (for my blog) the only list available in my language (italian) for free on the web (well, I'm still working on it, but I'll soon finish all the jouyou kanji). There's it.wikipedia's list, but it's awful (too many or too few pronounces, wrong meanings...).
Having done all this (hard) work, creating an italian version of Heisig method, adding stories, keywords, whatever to my list... is out of discussion. I'll leave that to another good guy with suicidal tendencies^^;; (well, I don't know if there is such an italian version already, but, as I said, I don't really need it)
Still, people often ask me for some word lists and I've always want to work with a good list that could improve kanji's study and help build a solid, useful personal vocabulary.
I know this forum is built around Heisig and RTK (sorry, I kind of feel an intruder!^^), but vocabulary building it's unavoidable, whichever method you've used to learn kanji, so I hope someone could help.