Anki. Yep... tried to learn those damn 2000 french words, and still no end to it.. I just can't sit in front of it anymore...when I do my eyes start to melt, so does my brain. The mistake I made was: 1. Tried to learn the words from Anki, whereas this is a tool to put into the long term memory things you already know. 2. I've always put every answer to hard, like a reflex, even when it was easy, way too easy. I guess this is the main reason I have so many repetitions like 700 a day.... I shouldn't stop because it reps will pile up.... So this is an oldschool Anki burn-out...anyone has a solution? I still have 200 new words to add. Haha
From: north carolina Registered: 2007-07-12 Posts: 1541
Go do something else. Something FUN.
I barely touched Anki while I was in Japan, and mysteriously, I still managed to learn Japanese just fine. I went out, talked to a lot of people, read a lot of books, watched some TV, and, of course, did all of my assignments.
With such a full plate of activities, I was able to take a bit of an Anki vacation. Sure, I probably have about 4000 reviews waiting for me, but I'm not too worked up about it. I needed a break from it.
I know...but I don't want to have a lot of reps pile up.... I have a goal in mind, a plan even So the question is..I would need a week to recover at least....I can't afford that much time.... so how do I keep going? Of course I could keep going like this, but it's no good, because I fail 3 times as much as normally, since no motivation to think
If you don't learn to press "easy", then there's no end to your problem, the reps will keep piling up... For your present reps, just wait a week or ten days, then just pass them (several thousands from what I gather) with easy (no need to even read them), that should set the algorithm straight (or at least start to). Meanwhile, just do something enjoyable as said above. Good luck!
Why can't you spare a week? A good plan is suppose to have flexibility... A week without Anki isn't like a week without studying at all.
Last edited by EratiK (2012 February 04, 12:40 pm)
The thing about the srs is, do a small amount daily (when adding new cards). I recommend people don't add more than 20 cards or just to add less than that. Just so you can get a good handle on how to use it well. A lot of people may not have a lot of time but to be honest, this is suppose to be used to save you time on studying. I manage to complete all my reps daily even though I have 2 jobs and go to school at the moment(part-time but I have 3 hour chem lecture, 2 hour bio lecture and 3 hour labs for both organic chemistry and biology. I still manage to use the srs but that's because I know it's suppose to be done in small bursts and plus it shouldn't take any more than 20mins or so(even less). (It takes me 30-40mins to do both decks)
I agree with what people are saying, learn to press easy or good and less of hard. The srs will fix anything you miss over time. So when your trying to learn 2000 french words, take it slowly and you will reach it over the long-term(with awesome results).
Last edited by ta12121 (2012 February 04, 6:49 pm)
Don't press 'hard' for every answer. Doing so is completely pointless, you might as well just print out the words in a big list and learn them old-school style - because just doing pass/fail completely negates the point of an SRS (your 'repetitions' will not be 'spaced' if you do not differentiate between which ones are easy and which are hard).
If I were forcing myself to do 700 reps a day I would want to give up too.
Anki doesn't support being a 3-day monk. You can only do a certain amount of new cards per day or you will be swamped with reviews on your other days. I'm busiest monday-friday with my weekends fairly relaxed. I only add new cards on the weekends and spend the weekdays studying them. 50 sentence cards a day is very doable. Just add 350 cards during your days off during the week and that will last you until the next week. Over a year this will add up to 18,000 cards. 2 years of this will take you to fluency in no time. I've been doing this set card amount since last October and it is working wonders for me.
I'll let you in on a little secret. If you focus your study on reading/listening watching interesting content, you'll be learning and memorising a lot of information completely incidentally. SRS really is optional. Focus less on SRS reviewing of old material and focus more on listening reading and making first contact with a lot of new information via dictionary lookups, translations and asking/googling grammar questions. Reviewing a word excessively in an SRS desn''t actually deepen your knowledge of the word in a word in a particularly meaningful way, and you absorb a lot of words effortlessly from consuming authentic media.
Yeh passive study with videogames, podcasts, anime, or reading without a dictionary is great. But it is most effective in my opinion with an SRS. Certainly the only path to fluency is a steady balance that keeps things interesting, but ensures that you are learning a fair amount of new information everyday. The only thing tricky here is finding the right balance that works for you.
1. Stop pressing 2 for everything. Use the spacebar, it will automatically press 3 for you on young cards, and a 2 on new/failed cards. 2. Don't add new cards if you have too many reviews. 3. As a final option, download the plug-in that lets you spread your reviews across a couple of days, if you feel that you have too many reviews. Or download the Anki 2.0 Alpha which allows you to limit your reps per day. Or, set a goal for yourself - only do 200 reps a day or only do Anki 30 minutes a day and no more.
From: Austria Registered: 2010-10-11 Posts: 563 Website
As the others have already said, review the cards in small amounts, maybe 40 a day. With 2000 cards it should take plus / minus two months. Learning 40 cards per day also should take less than 12 or maybe 15 minutes, learn them before you review new cards later that day. Do it and you have more time to actually experience the language, that's why you are learning it in the first place, instead of commiting a large amount of new information to your memory.
While you are at it, determin how far you can spread out cards, before you are likely to forget ~whatever. You can then set Anki accordingly, and you'd only have to press the space-bar, instead of automatically selecting hard. Which is what you could also do, that is, if you are not learning before reviewing new cards, you can initially push 2, and then let it cycle by pushing the space-bar.
And if Anki is killing you, take a break from it. nadiatims is so right about picking up words naturally from reading or listening and watching media, do that instead. And as i've read somewhere, Anki in fact rewards not reviewing over some time. If you aren't reviewing for some time and you come back to it, it spaces the cards out further, than it would if you'd have kept up with the reviews every day. So you might or might not try that as well.
Oh and don't worry about forgetting. It's only natural - we are humans after all. ;-)