@Thora: I see; so that's OK. (What I didn't see is that you've had previously said much of what I've repeatead later... think of that as a reinforcement )

bodhisamaya wrote:

The PDF is not a torrent. It was put up by the publisher.  Beyond the first chapter, there is nothing in the book of much value if you use RevTK.
RTK sample pages

Silly mortal, I'm sure everyone knows its not a torrent. Perhaps you are new to how the internet works? We "smart folk's" do not purchase music/games/videos/books that are provided to us if its already there in the open up for grabs. The only time you will ever need the physical "real deal" is when the "it can't be helped" problem occurs.
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As gdaxeman mentioned, the book does mark primitives that are not kanji themselves with a (*) mark while RevTK doesn't have cards for them. The book is useful because it also lets the reader know when to change each primitive meaning. I mean come on now, the homepage itself says you need the book! Why would it be not much of value?

Fabrice needs to have that to make the publisher happy.  He is not responsible for the opinions of the forum's users, so I can speak freely. 

I beat the system and used the "stealing copyrighted material" method prior to torrents; I checked the book out of the public library. I scanned over it, but didn't use the system until I found this website and found the examples used by other members.

The book is unnecessary and any minor discrepancies between it and this site will be quite trivial in the long run. If you do RTK, just get it done quickly with 90% recall and move onto studying real japanese. Also RTK3 is a waste of time.

What are you trying to accomplish Ginman?  You have been going from thread to thread rambling incoherently and adding nothing to the conversations.  Are you trying to mock this forum?

Last edited by bodhisamaya (2011 August 06, 10:43 pm)

This thread has gone haywire, but here's my last comment on the matter:
Perhaps you don't *need* the book, but I believe it helps. Beyond that, however, I think it is important to support the originator of this method, financially. While I may not be able to do so for a while, due to changes in my financial situation, I would also like to make at least a token contribution to this site (and so many others) some day, for the same reason. Heisig and Fabrice have given us some wonderful resources, and they both deserve to be compensated. If we just tear through life taking, taking, taking whatever we can for free, eventually the "open" system will fail, and that would be a shame.

So, for those of you who can afford it, pick up a copy of Heisig's book, and maybe throw a few bucks/quid/yen Fabrice's way too. I hate to sound preachy, but the direction this thread has taken is just a little sad to me. I've unsubscribed from it though, so I can get back to focusing on my studies.

The book is useful, and, even with this site, I still hand-write flashcards, just to help embed them in my memory, which is no longer quite what it used to be.

Happy learning, everyone!

KanjiKami wrote:

This thread has gone haywire, but here's my last comment on the matter:
Perhaps you don't *need* the book, but I believe it helps. Beyond that, however, I think it is important to support the originator of this method, financially. While I may not be able to do so for a while, due to changes in my financial situation, I would also like to make at least a token contribution to this site (and so many others) some day, for the same reason. Heisig and Fabrice have given us some wonderful resources, and they both deserve to be compensated. If we just tear through life taking, taking, taking whatever we can for free, eventually the "open" system will fail, and that would be a shame.

So, for those of you who can afford it, pick up a copy of Heisig's book, and maybe throw a few bucks/quid/yen Fabrice's way too. I hate to sound preachy, but the direction this thread has taken is just a little sad to me. I've unsubscribed from it though, so I can get back to focusing on my studies.

The book is useful, and, even with this site, I still hand-write flashcards, just to help embed them in my memory, which is no longer quite what it used to be.

Happy learning, everyone!

>support a scholar living in japan
yeah I think not.

However,Fabrice could use a bag of rice though as that would be nice to fit the price for those cute little mice on the homepage.

He knows darn well he can't support himself from a textbook,let alone other projects.

Last edited by Ginmanm (2011 August 06, 11:08 pm)

Might want to go over to one of the threads devoted to your product and explain why we are wrong Katsuo.

Katsuo, thanks for the spreadsheet, that helps a lot.

Uh, guys? Katsuo is not (as far as I know) khatzumoto.

I just vomited.

A few years ago there was a thread where users assumed you were Khatz and were showing praise on you.  You didn't deny it, so I assumed it was true.  Perhaps you just never returned to the thread.