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Reply #201 - 2010 January 04, 4:57 am
Zorlee
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From: Oslo / Kyoto
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Thank you for the tip! smile

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/527/img5128g.th.jpg

I think my e-mail address is readable, but just in case it's not - geir.larsen@live.no

Thanks smile

Reply #202 - 2010 January 09, 8:47 am
Evangelo
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From: Osaka
Registered: 2008-05-08
Posts: 55

skinnyneo wrote:

Yeah, I did split them off.  I personally don't have the 1級 books so I can't really mine it with anybody but if somebody would want to take it on then I'll make them the owner of it.  I hope to have that book also maybe in the next month and wouldn't mind help mining it.

I'm mining the Kanji Book with my friends right now, and will probably be done at the end of month.

I figure I'll get the grammar book and help mine that as well. Who's gonna help this one?

Reply #203 - 2010 January 26, 7:19 pm
skinnyneo
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Hey everybody I updated the first post with info about the 1kyuu sheet.  Sorry for any inconvenience but, I really think this is how it should go.  For those who have emailed me asking for permission to it would you like me to give you ownership permission?

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Reply #204 - 2010 January 26, 11:57 pm
skinnyneo
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Bumping this thread back up as we have found an owner for the 1kyuu spreadsheet.  I have edited the first post.

Reply #205 - 2010 January 27, 12:45 am
mikemikepw
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Registered: 2007-09-15
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Thanks skinnyneo!  If anyone needs access to the 1kyuu spreadsheet please send me a private message with a link to photo of your book.

Reply #206 - 2010 January 27, 10:01 am
Grinkers
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From: Tokyo
Registered: 2009-10-22
Posts: 298

Thanks for the quick access!

Now if only I can get to adding it to anki, and studying/reviewing as fast! tongue

Did the 1kyuu grammar book help people with JLPT1? Among friends who've passed JLPT1, and Japanese looking at the book, 1kyuu grammar doesn't seem nearly as useful as 2kyuu grammar.

I'm kind of shifting towards doing it, and not doing it, every other day. I need some pushing either way big_smile

Reply #207 - 2010 February 12, 3:11 am
chochajin
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From: Japan
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Hello,

I wanted to ask how you use the spreadsheet to study the grammar? I'm not exactly sure what the most effective way would be. I imported the spreadsheet into Anki today, but just trying to read the example sentences doesn't seem to help much.

I'd really appreciate some study method input here.
Thanks a lot smile

Reply #208 - 2010 March 07, 12:44 pm
nest0r
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What's the ISBN of that English version of KM2 that was referenced earlier in the thread (timewastin/mezbup on p. 7)? Specifically I'm wondering if it's a version of the ~対策 or the (KM2) まとめ thingies, because I have the Japanese of the former and English of the latter...

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Reply #209 - 2010 March 07, 1:34 pm
Nukemarine
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From: 神奈川
Registered: 2007-07-15
Posts: 2308

chochajin,

What I've been doing is combination of Comprehension and Cloze Deletion. The sentence is in Kanji so it's a matter of reading it and getting the meaning correct with relation to the grammar. I also cloze delete the syntax portion of the verb/noun/adjective.

Q Side
あんなにスピードを出したら、事故を起こ[...]かねない
~かねない

A Side
Example: あんなにスピードを出したら、事故を起こしかねない
Ex (Kana): あんなにスピードをだしたら、じこをおこしかねない。
Meaning: 〜おそれがある • 〜かもしれない 〈悪い結果になる可能性がある時に使う。〉
Syntax: [動-ます形] +

The benefit here are the reviews are fast, since it's recognition. However, you're testing Syntax which I found to be the easiest part to mess up.

Don't forget about http://www.tanos.co.uk/jlpt/ which has English translations/descriptions of the grammar points from these books.

Reply #210 - 2010 March 07, 1:43 pm
Javizy
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From: England
Registered: 2007-02-16
Posts: 753

I've got 56 sentences of points that are 2級 according to どんな時どう使う, but not included in the 2級 version of 完全マスター.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key= … p;hl=en_GB

Reply #211 - 2010 March 07, 2:18 pm
ruiner
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Registered: 2009-08-20
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@Nukemarine - Ah, didn't realize translations were there! Or rather, I didn't realize the Kanzen Master books were so closely related to the JLPT. Losing interest now. ;p

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Reply #212 - 2010 April 24, 4:14 am
Irixmark
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From: 加奈陀
Registered: 2005-12-04
Posts: 291

Did anybody do a どんな時どう使う spreadsheet? I can't find a thread on it.
If it isn't done yet, I'd be happy to contribute. If it's done, would you share it? I can prove that I own the book.

Reply #213 - 2010 May 17, 11:37 am
twinzen
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From: Norway
Registered: 2009-05-31
Posts: 45

Is it still possible to get access to this spreadsheet?

http://yfrog.com/9esam0233j

Email is kai.froland@gmail.com

Thanks in advance

Reply #214 - 2010 May 17, 10:00 pm
Asriel
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From: 東京
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Posts: 1343

Well I guess I didn't know (or forgot?) this thread existed.
If there's anything available for these books, I'd love to know:

http://i40.tinypic.com/zxpftt.jpg

don't comment on my bad handwriting...RtK reviews are tedious and I don't care if my characters look good or not hmm

email: pingu2@gmail.com

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Reply #215 - 2010 June 11, 8:32 pm
twinzen
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From: Norway
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Is anyone able to invite me to the 1kyuu spreadsheet? The entire 2kyuu deck is seen and active in Anki now, so I am ready to move on. :p I'll help enter a crapload of sentences if it's not completed yet, of course. smile

Edit: My mail adress is still kai.froland@gmail.com

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Reply #216 - 2010 June 12, 11:30 am
Geana
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Could I get access to the 1kyuu spreadsheet?

Reply #217 - 2010 June 12, 8:04 pm
chochajin
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I was wondering about that, too.
Is there a 1kyuu spreadsheet anyways?
I finally finished the 2kyuu grammar book, am about to order the 1kyuu one and would love to have a spreadsheet again smile

Reply #218 - 2010 June 12, 8:27 pm
Asriel
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From: 東京
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Posts: 1343

I'm still waiting for 2kyuu sad

Reply #219 - 2010 June 12, 8:47 pm
ta12121
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From: Canada
Registered: 2009-06-02
Posts: 3187

Asriel wrote:

I'm still waiting for 2kyuu sad

How much did you get the kanzen master books and such. All 4 of them, thinking of buying them. Or maybe i should just buy more novels.

Reply #220 - 2010 June 12, 9:03 pm
Asriel
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From: 東京
Registered: 2008-02-26
Posts: 1343

I can't remember. I get roughly $800 a month from the Japanese government just for kicks and giggles, and it was a long time ago, so I can't remember.
Probably somewhere around $50ish?

Reply #221 - 2010 June 27, 4:11 am
Mcjon01
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From: 大阪
Registered: 2007-04-09
Posts: 550

Oh, right, so I've had these books forever but I was too lazy to take a picture until today.

http://i46.tinypic.com/33x8nki.jpg

I'd send a private message to whoever, but it looks like all the cool kids are just doing it here.

Reply #222 - 2010 June 27, 4:13 am
chochajin
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I finally bought the 1kyuu book, so is there a spreadsheet for the 1kyuu grammar book as well and if so who can me give access to it? smile

Reply #223 - 2010 June 27, 10:50 am
kerosan41
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I'm sure the 完全マスター日本語能力試験文法問題対策 document on google docs used to have KM1 and KM2 in the same document, but at some point it was taken out and now its only the KM2 entries...

Edit: I went back through the revisions, and if you just roll back your view of the version to October '09, the sheet contains KM1, KM2, and Unicom 2

If these were split off into separate docs I wasn't invited to them. It might save you some time using these old versions, but I would double check all the entries anyway to be safe.

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Reply #224 - 2010 June 27, 12:06 pm
socrat
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From: San Francisco
Registered: 2009-07-11
Posts: 68

Can someone give me access to the KM2 spreadsheet?

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1961dc&s=6

Thx,  sseamon  AT gmail.com

Reply #225 - 2010 August 11, 12:58 pm
saturnattack
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I dunno if mikemikepw is still around or if he's busy sad 

I might have to just fix the KM1 spreadsheet myself. >_<