How to do pull-ups at home in Japan

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Reply #1 - 2012 May 25, 5:33 pm
vileru Member
From: Cambridge, MA Registered: 2009-07-08 Posts: 750

Gym memberships here are unreasonably expensive and the nearest park with a suitable bar is too far away to be practical. It'd be great if I could use a pull-up bar that hangs on a door frame, but unfortunately Japanese doorframes are designed in such a way that they cannot accommodate a pull-up bar (at least where I live; the door frame barely protrudes relative to the wall). Any suggestions?

Reply #2 - 2012 May 25, 5:51 pm
dizmox Member
Registered: 2007-08-11 Posts: 1149

Maybe you could find a frame if the doorway won't fit it?

http://www.bayareahiking.net/freestandingpullupbar/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Stamina-1690-free-standing-pull-up-bar.jpg

Last edited by dizmox (2012 May 25, 5:52 pm)

Reply #3 - 2012 May 25, 6:01 pm
ファブリス Administrator
From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

Yeah a tower is great, love mine smile  You can to dips on that one. I bought some rubber bands to help me get started with the pull ups.

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Reply #4 - 2012 May 25, 6:44 pm
vileru Member
From: Cambridge, MA Registered: 2009-07-08 Posts: 750

The problem with a tower is that I just don't have the space for it. Are there any models that are easily collapsible/foldable for storage?

Reply #5 - 2012 May 25, 6:52 pm
turvy Banned
From: Japan Registered: 2012-01-27 Posts: 430

Here is another idea, do hand stand pushups. Free, natural and way more awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6It9IzhahnQ

Last edited by turvy (2012 May 25, 6:52 pm)

Reply #6 - 2012 May 25, 6:59 pm
kitakitsune Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2008-10-19 Posts: 1006

When I lived in Japan, I actually took my shower room door down so I could fit in a pullup bar.

Reply #7 - 2012 May 25, 7:08 pm
vileru Member
From: Cambridge, MA Registered: 2009-07-08 Posts: 750

turvy wrote:

Here is another idea, do hand stand pushups. Free, natural and way more awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6It9IzhahnQ

Handstand pushups mostly target the shoulders and triceps, but pull-ups target your lats and other back muscles. Therefore, although they're a great form of exercise, handstand pushups cannot substitute for pull-ups.

Reply #8 - 2012 May 25, 7:10 pm
kainzero Member
From: Los Angeles Registered: 2009-08-31 Posts: 945

how about inverted rows? you might be able to find something to do that.

Reply #9 - 2012 May 25, 8:28 pm
vileru Member
From: Cambridge, MA Registered: 2009-07-08 Posts: 750

kainzero wrote:

how about inverted rows? you might be able to find something to do that.

That's an interesting suggestion, but I have no idea what to use to pull myself up. Obviously, a bar would be ideal, but I don't have any that are appropriate for inverted rows. I could use my table edge, but that seems dangerous to both me and the table. Any ideas?

Reply #10 - 2012 May 25, 9:26 pm
Nukemarine Member
From: 神奈川 Registered: 2007-07-15 Posts: 2347

You could hang rings and do ring ups and dips. I doubt you have a stove large enough to make your own rings (involves sand, pvc pipe and a paint can), but you should be able to get a set around Tokyo for a reasonable price.

Should be easy enough to find many things to hang your rings on near where you live. On top of that, make a solid box for jumping, so rolled up sand bags and a sea bag for weighted runs, and a jump rope for a variety of exercise possibilities.

Reply #11 - 2012 May 26, 3:59 am
kame3 Member
From: Netherlands Registered: 2009-09-01 Posts: 133

Check out the book 'You are your own gym' by Mark Lauren. You can find copies on the internet. It's a book with a lot of awesome suggestions for working out without specific equipment, using your everyday furniture. I used it myself during the time I was studying in Japan.
Suggestions:
- I second inverted rows. And like you suggested yourself, I simply used a table edge for it. No problem if you got a bit of a sturdy table. For a bar you could also use a wooden broom or something.
- What he calls 'Let me in's'. You basically grab hold of both doorknobs, place your feet beside the door, lean back and pull yourself up to the edge of the door. Nice excercise, although I was happy that my door never broke smile It's a bit risky with old doors.
- Pull ups on a door without a pull-up bar. This is more difficult but still doable. Maybe you could put something on the door (towel) to make it more comfortable.

Also I would really recommend if you start doing these to buy some fitness gloves. Otherwise you're prone to slip before you get tired tongue

Last edited by kame3 (2012 May 26, 4:03 am)

Reply #12 - 2012 May 26, 6:20 am
vix86 Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2010-01-19 Posts: 1469

Since this thread was converted into a weight training-in-Japan. I'll toss my bit in.
I bought a Kettlebell for weight training. Check youtube for vids on using it. Great for when you can't get to a gym but want to keep up/tone up muscles. Its small and doesn't take up space in your apartment. Weights run 6-8kg and step up 4kgs all the way to like 40kg.

Reply #13 - 2012 May 26, 8:09 am
ファブリス Administrator
From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

vileru wrote:

The problem with a tower is that I just don't have the space for it. Are there any models that are easily collapsible/foldable for storage?

Half of a tower is called a dip stand.

http://cdn.sweatband.com/Golds_Gym_Dip_Station_GG0_G4800_Dip_Station_325x325.jpg

You might be able to stick a bar between the dip handles and do inverted bench press, or pullups with your legs raised or folded (would be exhausting though :p).

I think the inverted bench press won't work the shoulders or lats as much as a true pull up but that's an option. You can still pull with palms facing towards or away to emphasize the forearms or biceps.

Here is another kind of dip stand without a bar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13e40R69lsM

You can use a belt to add weights for doing the dips or pull ups.

ps: on the plus side, you can shove boxes and stuff under it when you don't use it.

Reply #14 - 2012 May 26, 5:04 pm
kkdmg New member
Registered: 2012-05-17 Posts: 6

You mentioned the door frame doesn't protrude very far.
I'm not sure how far you mean, so I can't say if this will help, but...

I used to rock climb last year and I actually used to do pullups on the door frame on just my finger tips.
I could already do pullups, but my fingers weren't strong enough (or rather, finger tips).

So what I would do (which a lot of rock climbers do), is to simply hang for seconds on your door frame.
After a few weeks of doing it consistently (see: daily), you'll be able to start doing pullups on the door frame (assuming you already can do pullups).

Just a thought. And it obviously costs nothing.
But obviously don't limit this concept to door frames alone.
Any edge where you can hang my your fingers or get a firm grasp can be used for pullups.

I've done pullups off of too many things to count.
Door frames, basement pipes, sturdy book cases, backside of wooden stairwells, etc.

PS: There is also these things which can be mounted onto the wall:
http://www.amazon.com/Metolius-Project- … amp;sr=8-2
You mount them, and then just hang by the top or in one of the sockets.
The sockets are obviously so you can train only certain fingers as well.
In rock climbing, they are known as *pockets*.

Reply #15 - 2012 May 26, 11:47 pm
Nukemarine Member
From: 神奈川 Registered: 2007-07-15 Posts: 2347

Slightly off topic, but I find it amazing that many gyms don't have a simple pull-up bar (as in a straight bar). Most are those split type or with the three type of angled grips.

Actually, just the cost of one of those stupid specialized lift machines that does just one exercise could outfit a great power rack (usually equipped with a pull-up bar), bench and bumper plates that allows dozens of exercises.

Reply #16 - 2012 May 26, 11:49 pm
kainzero Member
From: Los Angeles Registered: 2009-08-31 Posts: 945

@nukemarine: it's probably the illusiion that machines = technological advancement

then again with the people at the gym i'm not sure we want them to use power racks, for safety reasons...

Reply #17 - 2012 May 26, 11:55 pm
nadiatims Member
Registered: 2008-01-10 Posts: 1676

Unless you're a body builder or something gyms are pretty much a waste of time and money.

Reply #18 - 2012 May 27, 12:33 am
chamcham Member
Registered: 2005-11-11 Posts: 1444

You can do P90X or Insanity at home and get good (if not better) results that you would at a gym. Beachbody (the company that makes P90X and Insanity) workouts are really nice because all you have to do is follow their calendar and do 1 DVD workout (sometimes 2 in rare cases) a day. Just push PLAY every day and follow along.

It takes no brains at all. And it is efficient because you don't have to get dressed, drive to the gym, check in, change clothes, and put your stuff in your locker BEFORE you even start your workout (not to mention leaving the gym and getting back home in traffic).

Some nice results from these at-home workouts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXU4hcH7ZWo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5kfMGfZRmo

This girl looks REALLY hot in here after pics. What a big difference!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD15Ki0LLtI

This guy got amazing results
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tEKlzrx2m8

Beachbody also has something called SHAKEOLOGY, which a meal replacement mix.
You can use it to replace one meal each day (for example, use it for lunch everyday).
People do seem to get good results with it. So if you're having trouble with your diet,
you can use SHAKEOLOGY to replace one of your meals each day. It contains a ton of
vitamins and minerals that you wouldn't normally get every day.

You don't have to use it, but at least it'll mean one less meal you'll have to worry about each day.

Last edited by chamcham (2012 May 27, 11:11 am)

Reply #19 - 2012 May 27, 12:47 am
kkdmg New member
Registered: 2012-05-17 Posts: 6

I agree with the P90X and Insanity recommendations.
As I've done P90X, Insanity, and Asylum (the beast of them) myself.

Haven't done P90X2 but I've heard pretty good things about it.

@nadiatims - Yes and no. If you're just looking to get fit and strong, then yeah, you really don't need it. But if you're looking to put on any good amount of size, doing so without weights can be a lot more challenging.

The problem is, after basic gains, it becomes harder and harder to find a way to add resistance instead of adding reps. Doing 200 pushups instead of 100 pushups (in a row) isn't going to grant me much more size (if any at all). However, with weights it's quite easy to stick to the same rep scheme, but simply add more weight. This doesn't mean you need a bench or rack, but rather just weights in general. A 20 lb vest (or weight on you) while doing pushups will have the same effect. Except with a real weight set, you do get the advantage of doing squats, deadlift, and bench (main compound movements).

I feel like I've run on too long about something that doesn't directly relate to the initial post, so I'll cut myself short there... but point being, you can always work around your situation to find a way to get the type of workout you're looking for!

Reply #20 - 2012 May 27, 4:15 am
kame3 Member
From: Netherlands Registered: 2009-09-01 Posts: 133

@kkdmg:
Push-up -> push-up with legs elevated -> deep push-ups -> one-arm push-up -> *CRAZY ALERT* planche push-up.
Also I feel form makes so much difference in doing a push-up. For instance if you let your elbows to the 'outside' instead of having them alongside your body (the former being what most people do, the latter the more difficult version). Or going all the way to the ground and pausing at the bottom. Saying you can do 100 or 200 doesn't really mean something unless you see how somebody's form is (not saying you have bad form or anything).
I agree with you that if you want some serious muscle you probably need weights, but there are still options available without weights.

Last edited by kame3 (2012 May 27, 4:19 am)

Reply #21 - 2012 May 27, 5:03 am
nadiatims Member
Registered: 2008-01-10 Posts: 1676

Indeed, there's so many ways to increase the difficulty level on pushups and other at home exercises that unless you really want to be conspicuously big (look like a meathead) there's no need to go to a gym.

If you want some extra weight, you can put bottles of water or books or something in a backpack and use that.

Reply #22 - 2012 May 27, 6:57 am
partner55083777 Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2008-04-23 Posts: 397

Arms aren't too hard to exercise without weights, assuming you have access to pullup bars, dipping bars, etc, but working out your legs is pretty hard without weights.  It's hard to find a bodyweight replacement for squats and deads.  Pistols are a start, but I find they don't transfer over to jumping as much as squatting does.  I've never even heard about a replacement for deadlifts.

Don't get me wrong, I love bodyweight exercises.  I'm currently working towards planche, front lever, and handstand press.

Reply #23 - 2012 May 27, 9:31 am
kkdmg New member
Registered: 2012-05-17 Posts: 6

@partner55083777, @nadiatims, @kame3

I think we're all pretty much on the same page. ^^;
I agree with the form and variations. I just still find the idea easier to be able to calculate throwing another 2, 5, 10, 20, etc lbs on a bar than to measure your success at those things. As they always say though, if there is a will, there is a way! big_smile

Reply #24 - 2012 May 27, 10:40 am
ファブリス Administrator
From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

partner wrote:

Arms aren't too hard to exercise without weights, assuming you have access to pullup bars, dipping bars, etc, but working out your legs is pretty hard without weights.  It's hard to find a bodyweight replacement for squats and deads.

There's one I do once in a while which is quite exhausting and a bit uncomfortable to do, it looks kind a like the woman in that posture:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/545070_447247648622115_219205581426324_1967992_1823951339_n.jpg

Trying to keep the angle on the front square, and bring the knee on the back leg almost to the ground, and holding the arms in front when going down. Wow... I'm panting for breath after twenty or so and can feel the cramps the next day if I haven't done it recently.

Does that have a name?

edit: well I guess it might be squat but that one is "split", I thought the standard squat is both legs bending together. It never occured to me to try this split position in a squat rack back when I went did some gym. My point being the split one without weight seems to be far more exhausting than the legs bent together.

Reply #25 - 2012 May 27, 11:01 am
kame3 Member
From: Netherlands Registered: 2009-09-01 Posts: 133

A lunge?