How to start?? I'm am uber noobing and I'm lost where's Lesson 1?

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Reply #1 - 2012 May 07, 10:46 pm
LiquorAssassin New member
From: Hemet Registered: 2012-05-06 Posts: 6

I can't find lesson 1 and when I add cards to my deck it says i reviewed them...

The first lesson ended at card 1 where I was presented with a box. I figured it out I needed to install japanese support on my pc (winblows should be called backdoors -cause it fails penetration testing)

So my story guides people to installing japanese characters.... oh yeah so im still uber noobing tho. I cant find lesson 1 anymore. Anyhelp. I added cards then deleted them. Should I add the first card only? That didn't work. HELP!

Reply #2 - 2012 May 07, 10:57 pm
quincy Member
Registered: 2008-08-22 Posts: 257
Reply #3 - 2012 May 07, 11:03 pm
Merocor Member
From: Southern California Registered: 2011-12-06 Posts: 31

At the top of your window on the home page are a number of tabs.

To add cards:  Click the "Manage" tab.  You'll then see a box where you can input a number.  whatever number you put in, all the cards up to that number will be added to your deck.  For instance, if you only wanted to add the first 50 cards, then just type "50" in the box. 

To add stories to your cards:  Click the "study" tab.  On the left side of the screen is a box to input numbers.  type in the number of the corresponding Kanji you want to edit and it'll pop up, along with shared stories from other users to this site.

Also, are you using the book?  If you are, check which edition you're using.  If it's the most recent (6th) then the kanji numbers won't line up, as all the kanji on this site are ordered to the 5th volume.  there's a post somewhere here that gives you and updated list matching the 6th. 

It's a pretty easy site to navigate.  Just keep messing around with it and you'll get the hang of it.

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Reply #4 - 2012 May 07, 11:30 pm
LiquorAssassin New member
From: Hemet Registered: 2012-05-06 Posts: 6

Thank you for your replies. I found how out to get to the cards. After I add them I can click on the bar graph and it brings up the cards. I am not using the book... except i got a online sample i should be using.

What my method is. is to use google translate to enter text like pyo or to draw the letters with IME. This show the characters as you type. like when I type ai love comes up. I don't know if this is good or if I am teaching myself incorrectly but its fun and i practice stroke order. I have learn 3 kanji so far 1-3.

Should I be starting with kanji or should I d

すSU                                             The SU
ありますARIMASU                       There ARIMASU
で DE                                            DE is
だ DA                                            DA's
わ WA                                            I WA
ぴょ PYO                                       PYO Pyo
ぴよ PIYO                                     Piyo PIYO
あい す お もどるのす わわ       I'll get back to us to love
や                               Or
ぎご                             Our technique
ぎょ                             Gyo


I wonder if I can do this with tatoeba that'd be cool. The IME is real cool to practice strokes. I wish I had a tablet. I want to sign my name in sudo-japanese.

Reply #5 - 2012 May 08, 1:06 am
Inny Jan Member
From: Cichy Kącik Registered: 2010-03-09 Posts: 720

LiquorAssassin wrote:

や                               Or

や is actually 'and' but others are spot on smile

Reply #6 - 2012 May 08, 3:33 am
LiquorAssassin New member
From: Hemet Registered: 2012-05-06 Posts: 6

thank you for the correction I was worried that using google translate might create errors or teach me wrong. This what google did
http://translate.google.com/#ja|en|%E3%82%84

should I start with hiragana?

Reply #7 - 2012 May 08, 5:20 am
yudantaiteki Member
Registered: 2009-10-03 Posts: 3619

LiquorAssassin wrote:

すSU                                             The SU
ありますARIMASU                       There ARIMASU
で DE                                            DE is
だ DA                                            DA's
わ WA                                            I WA
ぴょ PYO                                       PYO Pyo
ぴよ PIYO                                     Piyo PIYO
あい す お もどるのす わわ       I'll get back to us to love
や                               Or
ぎご                             Our technique
ぎょ                             Gyo

Whatever you're doing to get this, you should not do it.  I don't understand what this is supposed to be, but if the right side is supposed to be translations of the left, it's almost totally wrong, and the "I'll get us back to love" Japanese is nonsense.

EDIT: Never use Google translate or any other automatic translator to try to learn things.  It's one of the worst possible ways to try to learn Japanese.

but others are spot on smile

No.

Last edited by yudantaiteki (2012 May 08, 5:32 am)

Reply #8 - 2012 May 08, 8:24 am
LiquorAssassin New member
From: Hemet Registered: 2012-05-06 Posts: 6

Well with that method I am practicing strokes with the IME handwriting(ja) tool. directly into google translate and it allows me to see translations as I type. I think it would be fun and useful if we/I could combine that with tatoeba's database of sentences for each word.

Reply #9 - 2012 May 08, 8:44 am
yudantaiteki Member
Registered: 2009-10-03 Posts: 3619

LiquorAssassin wrote:

it allows me to see translations as I type.

Seeing wrong translations is worse than not seeing any translations at all.

Reply #10 - 2012 May 08, 8:47 am
LiquorAssassin New member
From: Hemet Registered: 2012-05-06 Posts: 6

Should I know kana before I start here?
What should I learn first... maybe it should be romanji so that I know how to pronounce stuff? But someone said learn hiragana first. Here we have konji  Should I read RTK (K=kana?) or Konji.

GOOGLE METHOD sad
yeah that method is bad... 月 does this mean moon?

I typed moon and translated it and got 月 then
pasted 月 and google translated that back to english as month

I want to learn the following characters

moon
mars
mercury
jupiter
venus
saturn
sun

ps how do u tell if its konji katakana or hiragana what does google translate it to.

Reply #11 - 2012 May 08, 9:22 am
ファブリス Administrator
From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

Yes, LiquorAssassin you should really learn the hiragana and katakana to start semi-serious Japanese learning.

It's fun, and it'll allow you to read quite a lot actually, including many english words that are written in katakana in Japanese import games, for example. You go to Japan, and you can read a whole Mc Donald's menu.

So learn those. Not on this site. There's tons of kana test sites and sites that provide some basic mnemonics for those, skip the Heisig books. If you've got a barely functioning brain you'll get them in a weekend or two weeks time.

Make paper cards for those, because you won't have all that many cards. Just buy a deck of nice white cards somewhere. Then you can shuffle em and test them wherever you like.

With that said the sample RTK chapter is fun to do as well, and there's no harm in doing it at the same time or before you do the kana if you like.

HOWEVER once you got that chapter down, you really should be able to at least read hiragana and katakana from memory.

Then, at the very least, when you look up kanji in dictonaries you'll be able to read the phonetics.

Welcome, and have fun.

I learned Hiragana and Katakana mostly with TheJapanesePage, they've got some nice lessons.

Try:
http://thejapanesepage.com/hiragana

http://thejapanesepage.com/download

Reply #12 - 2012 May 08, 10:51 am
LiquorAssassin New member
From: Hemet Registered: 2012-05-06 Posts: 6

kickAwESOME! Thats sounds like good advice thanks for the links and I will make paper cards cause I want to get away from the computer a bit. I wanted to cheat...is there a print function in Anki?? but handwriting would be good practice.

Thanks for the links.

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