older editions?

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Reply #1 - 2012 April 16, 9:21 am
BakaNaKami Member
Registered: 2012-04-13 Posts: 14

After expressing my interest in Japanese I got RtK 1 from a friend, but it's the 4th edition. from what I read there are quite a lot of differences between it and the 6th edition. How important is it to get the newest edition? This book is kinda expensive and I don't think I'll be able to afford buying it.

Another question: which rate is a good rate to progress? for the last 4 days (yeah, long time :p), I've been working on 25 kanji a day, uploading each to anki and doing a review through it each day. This rate feels pretty easy for the start (Also because I already knew a lot of the kanji). Is this a good rate? Or will it get too hard later and slowing down would be better? Or will it stay as easy and maybe increasing the pace is the right idea? In the book Heisig's divided them into 56 lessons, maybe it's a good idea to do 1 lesson a day?

Isbilenper Member
From: Copenhagen Denmark Registered: 2011-09-17 Posts: 65

I personally worked with the 6th edition, but I don't think the edition part is super important. Maybe somebody will come by with a different opinion. As for the pace, I'd say do however much you feel you can manage without it becoming a huge drag. ~25 a day seems like a pace a lot of people likes to go with. I strongly advice you to not do one lesson a day, as you will soon learn that some lessons are 100+ kanjis while a few are below 20 kanjis making for a fairly unsteady pace.

Alias New member
Registered: 2012-03-08 Posts: 1

Don't worry about the differences between the editions, because:

1) All the extra Kanji are included in the RTK1 Supplement, which you can find here(it's free): http://nirc.nanzanu.ac.jp/publications/ … lement.pdf

2)RevTK is based on the 5th edition of RTK, which is almost the same as the 4th edition(You can find the list of changed keywords here:(http://ziggr.com/heisig/)).

Also, don't worry about the rate with which you learn, mainly focus on convenietly breaking the lessons into chunks so you can master the primitives in a systematic fashion(I study at about 15 per day, but mainly focus on finishing the lesson).

Hope this helps, and good luck with your studies:) !

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Splatted Member
From: England Registered: 2010-10-02 Posts: 776

An older edition is definitely fine. The main difference in the new one is the inclusion of the new jouyou kanji, which are definitely useful, but there aren't many of them and you can easily use the supplement (see Alias's post) to do them at the end or add them in as you go. If you're using this site to review then you might actually be better with an older version, since Fabrice hasn't got round to creating a sixth edition review mode yet.

With regards to the number of kanji a day, don't worry about it too much. You'll probably find that it gets easier as you go,  but if your reviews do start piling up too quickly, you can just drop the amount you add. And obviously the opposite is true too, if you want to spend more time on kanji.

Last edited by Splatted (2012 April 16, 11:43 am)

BakaNaKami Member
Registered: 2012-04-13 Posts: 14

Ok I see. Thanks everyone.
I will probably discover the changed key words as I go since I look at this site on every kanji to see other people's stories.

Oh and the link to the additional kanji doesn't work? I get an error message when trying to open it

Last edited by BakaNaKami (2012 April 16, 12:53 pm)

Reply #6 - 2012 April 16, 1:01 pm
lardycake Member
Registered: 2010-11-20 Posts: 174

BakaNaKami wrote:

Ok I see. Thanks everyone.
I will probably discover the changed key words as I go since I look at this site on every kanji to see other people's stories.

Oh and the link to the additional kanji doesn't work? I get an error message when trying to open it

http://nirc.nanzan-u.ac.jp/publications … lement.pdf

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