Anki vs RTK

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Reply #1 - 2012 April 11, 3:14 pm
beetlejuice321 Member
From: United States Registered: 2011-02-22 Posts: 17

I hear a lot of talk on Anki on these forums and switching with RTK.

I know both are SRS memory tools.

I know Anki is a stand alone program and can be used with any flashcards you load with it.

I know RTK (Reviewing/Remembering the Kanji) is web-based, yet still accessible by my Android phone for reviewing via mobile web-browser (Opera, Firefox, etc). And sharing stories is very helpful!

But I don't understand why so many people keep bringing up Anki or switching to it and then back to RTK website? Are people using the RTK card-decks with Anki? Or some other Kanji cards? It seems to me that switching from one SRS system like RTK to some other Kanji program can get very confusing! Or am I wrong?

Last edited by beetlejuice321 (2012 April 11, 3:16 pm)

Reply #2 - 2012 April 11, 3:45 pm
HelenF Member
From: UK Registered: 2012-04-11 Posts: 39

I started with the SRS on this site because it was simple, and later switched to Anki to get more options and more information on my cards. I think I used the Anki deck called "RTK 1 and 3 w/ Kanji Definition and Yomi". I have modified the structure of the deck since I downloaded it.

It's possible to review using Anki, and still use the stories on this site.

At one point, it was possible to migrate from this site to Anki while preserving the card intervals. I don't know whether it's possible currently.

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Reply #3 - 2012 April 11, 4:06 pm
beetlejuice321 Member
From: United States Registered: 2011-02-22 Posts: 17

Thanks for the reply HelenF, Where did you get your decks?

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Reply #4 - 2012 April 11, 4:13 pm
HelenF Member
From: UK Registered: 2012-04-11 Posts: 39

The deck I named is in Anki's shared deck area (File -> Download -> Shared Deck...)

Reply #5 - 2012 April 11, 4:23 pm
chamcham Member
Registered: 2005-11-11 Posts: 1444

RevTK is used for this site (reviewing the kanji).
RTK is for the book (remembering the kanji).

RevTK is a fan-made website and not officially tied to the book.

The thread title should be "Anki vs. RevTK".

Last edited by chamcham (2012 April 11, 4:24 pm)

Reply #6 - 2012 April 11, 4:49 pm
TwoMoreCharacters Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2010-07-10 Posts: 480

Anki is a more feature heavy, portable and customizable program, and I prefer its algorithm. I haven't used this site's reviewing system but I don't see the advantage, really. The stories are what's great about this site.

Reply #7 - 2012 April 11, 4:58 pm
beetlejuice321 Member
From: United States Registered: 2011-02-22 Posts: 17

Thanks HelenF!

Chamcham. That's why I put in the description "know RTK (Reviewing/Remembering the Kanji".

TwoMoreCharacters, yes the stories are whats great about this site. The mnemonics is the who point of RTK (the book), and this site. The benefit of this site to a simple SRS alone is that it combines the mnemonics of the book and SRS study.

I heard there is an Anki deck that includes the top stories from this site? Anyone know which deck that is? I may switch to using Anki instead in the future, and a deck like that would be nice.

Reply #8 - 2012 April 11, 5:13 pm
TwoMoreCharacters Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2010-07-10 Posts: 480

beetlejuice321 wrote:

TwoMoreCharacters, yes the stories are whats great about this site. The mnemonics is the who point of RTK (the book), and this site. The benefit of this site to a simple SRS alone is that it combines the mnemonics of the book and SRS study.

I don't think I understand what you're talking about. The reason I'm here is because I combined the stories from this site (and the book) with my Anki deck. Everyone who's using Anki and RTK probably has their stories on their cards. You can make a deck from scratch or download various pre-made decks with either the top stories on them or links to the stories pages. Anki decks can be highly customized, so you can make your own stories, draw inspiration from stories on here, or flat out copy them, and place them anywhere you like on either the front or the back of your cards.

Reply #9 - 2012 April 11, 8:07 pm
s0apgun 鬼武者 ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ
From: Chicago Registered: 2011-12-24 Posts: 453 Website

beetlejuice321 wrote:

I heard there is an Anki deck that includes the top stories from this site? Anyone know which deck that is? I may switch to using Anki instead in the future, and a deck like that would be nice.

Goto the Shared Deck's on Anki... the name of the deck is "Heisigs Remember the Kanji 1-3 wtop 2 co"

I used this for RTK and deleted one of the stories for each card. Recommended!

Reply #10 - 2012 April 12, 6:57 am
meeatcookies Member
From: Poland Registered: 2011-11-12 Posts: 96

I prefer Anki, it has very useful plugins, for example: Kanji info plugin with stroke order on each kanji, if i dont know correct stroke order, i see it in Anki, without looking it up with web browser. You can also review online with cellphone and, and whatever else that has internet connection, via ankiweb. It can be synchronized with decks on your hdd, so there is no problem with offline reviewing.
Anyway, both Anki and RevTK are fine for reviewing.

Reply #11 - 2012 April 12, 9:16 am
Fadeway Member
From: Sofia Bulgaria Registered: 2012-01-01 Posts: 90

I've never used this site for reviewing. Each card in my Anki deck comes with a link to this site's equivalent, so if I need to review the story, it's only a click away.

The way I see it, you have no choice but to use Anki. RTK is, depending on your goal, around 10% of all the reviewing you'll do to learn Japanese. When you finish it, you'd move on to core2k/6k, maybe add a supplementary deck or two. Those things aren't included here, so sooner or later you move to a separate program. You don't have to do it right now, but it's inevitable.

Reply #12 - 2012 April 12, 10:02 am
beetlejuice321 Member
From: United States Registered: 2011-02-22 Posts: 17

Thanks for everyone's feedback!!!

And yes Fadeway, I see what you and others are saying, and that moving to a new program is inevitable. I will continue to use this site as I can since I have already started, it also works with my mobile-browser on my phone. When it become impracticable or I outgrow this site will undoubtedly migrate to Anki.

But what deck do you use when you said "Each card in my Anki deck comes with a link to this site's equivalent, so if I need to review the story, it's only a click away."???

s0apgun, thanks for sharing "Heisigs Remember the Kanji 1-3 wtop 2 co". I will give it a try.

Reply #13 - 2012 April 12, 10:07 am
Fadeway Member
From: Sofia Bulgaria Registered: 2012-01-01 Posts: 90

I use "Heisigs Remembering the Kanji (RTK) 1+3", the most popular one. I'm 50% confident that the links are on default settings, but if not, on card layout, make the question field contain this snippet:
<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 20px; color: #000000; white-space: pre-wrap;"><a href="http://kanji.koohii.com/study/?framenum={{text:Heisig number}}">{{{Keyword}}}</a></span>

Reply #14 - 2012 April 12, 10:16 am
beetlejuice321 Member
From: United States Registered: 2011-02-22 Posts: 17

I found this one just now.

This one has hyper link to stories online!

"Heisigs Remember the Kanji 1-3 w/ top 2 community stories"


Or this one

This one recommended by s0apgun provides the top 2 stories!!!  (I agree with s0apgun, delete one of the stories you don't need for sure)

"Heisig's Remembering the Kanji Lite (RTK) 1+3 + Story Button"

Reply #15 - 2012 April 12, 10:43 am
meeatcookies Member
From: Poland Registered: 2011-11-12 Posts: 96

The deck at the top, Heisig's Remember the Kanji (RTK) 1+3, has links to stories online on default. When you click a keyword it sends you here, to http://kanji.koohii.com, to the exact same frame.

Reply #16 - 2012 April 12, 7:12 pm
s0apgun 鬼武者 ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ
From: Chicago Registered: 2011-12-24 Posts: 453 Website

^ That is if you have internet connection. I use my iPhone for everything Anki so learning new cards is easier when they're already loaded into the deck.

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