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Reply #51 - 2012 April 08, 9:58 pm
imabi
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Why does this place need moderators again?

Reply #52 - 2012 April 08, 10:19 pm
Norman
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I seriously do not believe that this board needs 3-5 moderators. The traffic is not high enough to necessiate that number.

Find someone reasonable, low profile, without any issues, and PM them. Finding a Mod shouldn't involve a popularity contest between board members.

Reply #53 - 2012 April 08, 10:20 pm
ファブリス
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imabi wrote:

Why does this place need moderators again?

Because I want to be able to spend more time away from the forum.

Even though there is not a whole lot to do, I am supposed to check regularly for spam and such.

Plus, I'm not organizing the forum as much as I wish. Mods can do a bit of tidying up.

Also, read first post.

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Reply #54 - 2012 April 08, 10:25 pm
ファブリス
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Norman wrote:

I seriously do not believe that this board needs 3-5 moderators. The traffic is not high enough to necessiate that number.

Find someone reasonable, low profile, without any issues, and PM them. Finding a Mod shouldn't involve a popularity contest between board members.

Three if you prefer.

Sigh, I have suggested two options here:

* ONE MOD
* 2-3  mods than can work together via the reports interface. Presumably "voting" together for closing a topic is less of a bother for frequent poster, and opens up the role to more people.

Reply #55 - 2012 April 09, 12:57 am
Cacawate
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Magamo would be perfect.

Reply #56 - 2012 April 09, 1:18 am
vix86
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You said one of the potential problems was deleting a first post deletes a thread. Is there a function in admin tools to lock a post from further edits? So a Mod/Admin edits a conflicting first post, blanks it for example, and locks it from further edits from original poster.

Reply #57 - 2012 April 09, 1:20 am
Tzadeck
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Cacawate wrote:

Magamo would be perfect.

Isn't Magamo not really on that much anymore?  Magamo is nice enough to spend a long time explaining Japanese questions with a lot of depth and he uniquely has a lot of knowledge about Japanese and language in general.  Why take up more of his time with tasks that any level-headed person can do?

Not to demean the post of a moderator, but it really does just come down to someone who has the time, will devote themselves to the task, and is level-headed. 

Magamo is overqualified, haha smile

Last edited by Tzadeck (2012 April 09, 1:41 am)

Reply #58 - 2012 April 09, 1:48 am
Nagareboshi
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I just want to add my two cents to the discussion. The truth of the matter is, everybody can be a moderator, though it is a good choice to appoint someone who knows the forum and the members. An active moderator, who is participating in discussions, is a plus imho. They are who people are turning to when a question arises, for changing topics, etc. On the other hand they could be a little biased towards others whom they got to know over the years. You get to know people over the years, and when they are a little aggressive, or getting carried away a little in a heated discussion, they would be likely to get away with it. Which speaks for 新米 or less active members, because they are not so emotionally involved in this whole forum-thing, but still capable to fulfill the functions asked from them. 

2 to 3 moderators are a good choice from my point of view. The forum is chock-full of useful information that needs to be collected, centralized, and being brought into order. Which would be a nice side job for those moderators, besides the usual business of moderating forum-posts, handling complaints, answering questions and such. Which, if I got Fabrice right, isn't that much work because hardly anyone complains about anything around here. So, whoever it is going to be, I am sure they will make a great job. And if I were to suggest some people for the post as 守護天使 then CarolCG, puddingcat, nadiatims, and maybe, just maybe mezpub because he is a Kiwi. Which qualifies him the most, Kiwis are friendly creatures by nature, or so I've heard. ^^ And if it's not one of them getting assigned, then not. big_smile

Reply #59 - 2012 April 09, 2:36 am
jettyke
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Nagareboshi wrote:

2 to 3 moderators are a good choice from my point of view. The forum is chock-full of useful information that needs to be collected, centralized, and being brought into order.

Yeah, Very true. We need more order and get the forum topics more straight to the point so that we will understand everything in this forum better, faster, and find the information that we need as easily as possible.

Reply #60 - 2012 April 09, 3:11 am
vix86
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Nagareboshi wrote:

2 to 3 moderators are a good choice from my point of view. The forum is chock-full of useful information that needs to be collected, centralized, and being brought into order. Which would be a nice side job for those moderators, besides the usual business of moderating forum-posts, handling complaints, answering questions and such.

I don't really know what you & jettyke have in mind. It doesn't make sense to have a zillion stickies for this stuff. The role of the moderator is to simply deal with the occasional ban, illegal stuff, complaints, and people just ignoring general rules or what not. I suppose moving threads into proper sub forums might also be a good duty too.

If you want to centralize information, there is or could be a wiki for that. (I know one existed prior to this but I think it might have been managed by nest0r?) If no one likes the wiki idea then start your own mega info thread to centralize the information. Moderators shouldn't be tasked with that.

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Reply #61 - 2012 April 09, 6:38 am
pm215
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ファブリス wrote:

Then I would suggest, in order for moderation to happen instead of waiting for someone else to do something, that the mods post in a topic to suggest closing eg. "Topic should be closed because ..." and report it.

I reckon you should just pick 2 or 3 mods who've applied and that you personally are happy with, and then let them decide on the exact mechanics of how they want to run things, whether that's some kind of majority-vote or not, with discussion via reports or private email or whatever (and also let them vary how they do things based on experience). I think if you pick reasonable people it will work out OK -- this isn't a particularly acrimonious forum -- so you should just do that and see how it goes.

Reply #62 - 2012 April 09, 7:33 am
Bokusenou
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vix86 wrote:

If you want to centralize information, there is or could be a wiki for that. (I know one existed prior to this but I think it might have been managed by nest0r?) If no one likes the wiki idea then start your own mega info thread to centralize the information. Moderators shouldn't be tasked with that.

This one?

Reply #63 - 2012 April 09, 8:01 am
vix86
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Bokusenou wrote:

vix86 wrote:

If you want to centralize information, there is or could be a wiki for that. (I know one existed prior to this but I think it might have been managed by nest0r?) If no one likes the wiki idea then start your own mega info thread to centralize the information. Moderators shouldn't be tasked with that.

This one?

Yes

Reply #64 - 2012 April 09, 3:35 pm
ファブリス
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Ok I dunno why I make this so complicated. I'll create a new thread for applications and all comments should be posted HERE.

Reply #65 - 2012 April 09, 4:15 pm
gibosi
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Just curious....

Is a moderator expected to look at every post?  This would be very time-consuming, so I would assume not.  So does this mean that moderators only react to reports?  I guess I am trying to get a feeling for just what a moderator would do and how much time would be required, on a daily basis, to meet the responsibilities of this position.

Reply #66 - 2012 April 09, 5:08 pm
ファブリス
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No, you don't need to read all posts. The main responsibility is to answer to the reports. And if you want I can put an email of your choice on the reports mailing. You could setup a simple filter for those in your email client.

Usually before a topic turns into flames you'll get a report because of some aggressive comment, then you can keep an eye on it, and eventually decide to close the topic. But typically those will be reported at some point, so you don't need to read everything.

Reply #67 - 2012 April 10, 4:57 am
ファブリス
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OP wrote:

If you would like to apply please prefix your post with "APPLY".

Guys, sorry for the confusion but in this thread I was hoping to be able to sort out the applications.

If Splatted and kainzero are still interested please post in the new thread.

Reply #68 - 2012 April 10, 6:27 am
HonyakuJoshua
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I would not be for Zgarbas as a moderator as she called me a liar and refused to justify it on one thread. Personally I would love to see someone with awesome Japanese - Ydtt standard - as a mod. I obviously don't mind Fabrice policing his own site, but if "one of us" were to become a moderator I would be more respectful if this person had awesome Japanese.

Last edited by HonyakuJoshua (2012 April 10, 6:29 am)

Reply #69 - 2012 April 10, 7:10 am
Blahah
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I don't think it matters whether the person has any Japanese skills whatsoever. They aren't being hired as a lecturer, the key things are: will they turn up regularly; and can they make balanced decisions.

Also I support Zgarbas' application: calling out HonyakuJoshua should almost be a pre-requisite for the position wink

Last edited by Blahah (2012 April 10, 7:13 am)

Reply #70 - 2012 April 10, 7:37 am
imabi
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Josh has shown himself to be a real person with at first misunderstood purposes. He did get off on a wrong start simply because what he first posted did have the original signs of someone fake, but I think he has proven himself to have reasonable credibility that you would expect online, which certainly doesn't have to be much anyways.

I think whoever becomes the eventual moderator(s) need to be kind and unlikely to lose their cool without finding out some things ahead of time. They should be able to talk to people fighting with each other and see if they can make a solution.

Zgarbas just said what seemed true. Now, zgarbas would like anyone else that takes the job become responsible to do the tasks like they're supposed to.

Reply #71 - 2012 April 10, 8:00 am
Zgarbas
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<3. Thank you for your votes of confidence.

Reply #72 - 2012 April 10, 11:41 am
Splatted
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Since enough people have already applied, I've decided I don't want to do it . I spend too much time here already and I think if I felt I had to come here it would be a disaster. tongue

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Reply #73 - 2012 April 10, 5:35 pm
ファブリス
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Okay we've got:

s0apgun, Katsuo, Zgarbas, nohika, and gibosi.

Katsuo is in. He's been a great contributor and as far as registration date goes, he's an ancient, shall we say (lol). He visits regularly. His apparent "reserve" is a big plus for this role. He's a no nonsense member here, which I think will make a solid mod, whether he's into moderation as such, or tidying up the forums.

gibosi has kindly offered to help. By his own admission he isn't particularly fond of being a moderator, but maybe he's expecting something more serious than it is. I've put him up for votes because he won't be alone to do the job anyway.

s0apgun's offer is greatly appreciated. He's been here only three months. On the plus side he seems to be a fairly cool headed kinda poster, who doesn't argue with other people. I'll let you all decide how that weighs in.

In any case, all applications will be remembered and may be contacted later if a mod wants to be replaced.

I would like to have three moderators, I think five is a bit much.

Katsuo is not up for vote.

Please vote or express support for Zgarbas, s0apgun, nohika and gibosi.

Reply #74 - 2012 April 10, 7:41 pm
Bokusenou
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I vote for Zgarbas and nohika.
I mainly give back to this community by answering members' questions, and I've noticed them answering questions as well. ^-^ They both seem to be very helpful and kind.

Last edited by Bokusenou (2012 April 10, 7:43 pm)

Reply #75 - 2012 April 10, 7:57 pm
HonyakuJoshua
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I like the idea of Soapgun as a moderator as he seems to be somebody with a strong interest, and have said all I have to say about Zgarbas thanks for the kind post 今日