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chochajin Member
From: Japan Registered: 2008-07-13 Posts: 520 Website

Wow, that's a long time. I'm envious big_smile

I was thinking about buying an ipod anyway (just not the touch one - although I have a mp3 player). I'll have a closer look at it and see what else that ipod type can do for me.
I'd love to have a dictionary, too, but I already have a CASIO ExWord, so that's that.

So can I use Anki just as usually and synchronize it with my PC somehow?
Is it limited somehow because it's not a PC version, only an ipod version?

Thanks big_smile

resolve Member
From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

It's nothing like the PC version, but it will let you do reviews & sync.

chochajin Member
From: Japan Registered: 2008-07-13 Posts: 520 Website

Can you tell me a little bit more about what exactly I can do with that anki version?
Would I need to buy the 32GB ipod touch for that?

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resolve Member
From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

You can review on it, you can save your deck, and you can sync. Other features are certainly possible, but not implemented yet.

You can buy an 8gb one if you want - you don't need that much space to run Anki. If you want to ask other users about it, bring it up on the Anki forum. There's a thread related to the ipod version already.

chochajin Member
From: Japan Registered: 2008-07-13 Posts: 520 Website

Is it easy to get Anki your ipod if you're a technical newb like me or is it pretty complicated?

What are the pros and cons of using an iphone touch instead of a PDA/Handheld?
Sorry for those stupid questions, but like I said, I really have no clue.

Thanks again smile

resolve Member
From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

It's a bit tricky to get it working actually.
http://ichi2.net/anki/download/ankimini/README

the iPod touch is a nice device because it's easy to hack, has built in wireless, a unix backend and is quite small. A zaurus may be a nice option too though - I simply haven't had the chance to test one. You're probably best avoiding a windows mobile PDA - Anki support is somewhat lacking there it seems.

chochajin Member
From: Japan Registered: 2008-07-13 Posts: 520 Website

As you live in Japan, too, I guess you have a Japanese ipod touch?
Can I jailbreak ANY ipod touch? Sounds complicated, but if other people can do it, then why shouldn't I, right? smile
Oh, and would I need internet connection to be able to use that anki version or is it only that I need an internet connection to get the whole hack thing done once?

If I want to watch movies etc. on an ipod do I have to "decode" normal video files first? I have read something about ipod-format movies.

With a zaurus I would be able to run a somewhat "full" anki version, right?

Maybe I should just wait for a while and see what happens to the anki version for the ipod touch / iphone?! wink

cangy Member
From: 平安京 Registered: 2006-12-13 Posts: 372 Website

cangy wrote:

did you consider doing it as cgi or with an embedded web server?  then there'd be no gui dependencies at all, and the media rendering stuff would be taken care of by the browser...

looks like damien has gone and made one after all:

resolve wrote:

http://ichi2.net/anki/download/ankimini/README

it seems to work under debian now.  are you planning on making it iphone-dependent or can this become the generic portable anki?

on another note:

megabadd wrote:

The reviewing is really fast though, thanks!

yeah the 0.9.7 libanki improved the algorithms, so responsiveness is no longer an issue

misha wrote:

Alpha9 is out

thanks for the usability enhancements misha!

if you have a sharprom zaurus and use anki you should really check out ankiqt-lite alpha9

resolve Member
From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

chochajin wrote:

As you live in Japan, too, I guess you have a Japanese ipod touch?
Can I jailbreak ANY ipod touch? Sounds complicated, but if other people can do it, then why shouldn't I, right? smile

Yeah, I have a Japanese iPod touch. Jailbreaking is pretty simple - find the right app, read the instructions, run it.

Oh, and would I need internet connection to be able to use that anki version or is it only that I need an internet connection to get the whole hack thing done once?

You need wireless access to a) install Anki on it and b) to copy your deck back and forth or synchronize. Since the client doesn't support adding cards yet, only reviewing, if you don't have intermittent access to wireless so you can update your deck, it's not very useful.

If I want to watch movies etc. on an ipod do I have to "decode" normal video files first? I have read something about ipod-format movies.

Outside of my area of expertise I'm afraid - though there's probably some video player available.

With a zaurus I would be able to run a somewhat "full" anki version, right?

The same backend runs on all versions of Anki. But each platform provides a different GUI toolkit. The Zaurus only provides qt3, so it's not possible to run the desktop client on a Zaurus either (nor would you want to - it'd be too slow!)

resolve Member
From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

cangy wrote:

resolve wrote:

http://ichi2.net/anki/download/ankimini/README

it seems to work under debian now.  are you planning on making it iphone-dependent or can this become the generic portable anki?

Nothing in the program depends on the iPhone. It could be run on a windows mobile or zaurus device too, if you had the right environment set up. Since I lack such a device, instructions will need to be provided by someone else.

Blahah Member
From: Cambridge, UK Registered: 2008-07-15 Posts: 715 Website

Shingo wrote:

Thanks Misha for your response,

The Asus looks ok but I was thinking of something smaller, PDa-ish, and with a touch screen. Do you know of any that match this, just so I have something to go off when searching further?

One thing that may drastically expand my options would be if I had a Linux handheld that would run the Linux Anki, and this could use the decks made on the Windows version on my computer.

Check out the Nokia n770 and n800 internet tablets. Touchscreen, running linux and can be modified hevily. Should run anki and can sync with your online anki account

Reply #162 - 2008 October 03, 4:03 pm
ethics_gradient Member
From: USA Registered: 2008-10-01 Posts: 17

Would this work on an older Zaurus, like the 5500?

Reply #163 - 2008 October 03, 7:17 pm
chochajin Member
From: Japan Registered: 2008-07-13 Posts: 520 Website

resolve wrote:

You need wireless access to a) install Anki on it and b) to copy your deck back and forth or synchronize. Since the client doesn't support adding cards yet, only reviewing, if you don't have intermittent access to wireless so you can update your deck, it's not very useful.

I don't have wireless lan. So right now there's no way to synchronize the deck with the one on your pc without wifi connection? hmm

Reply #164 - 2008 October 03, 11:46 pm
resolve Member
From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

I think there's a program that lets you sync over the sync cable, so it's not necessarily impossible.

Reply #165 - 2008 October 04, 4:39 am
chochajin Member
From: Japan Registered: 2008-07-13 Posts: 520 Website

resolve wrote:

I think there's a program that lets you sync over the sync cable, so it's not necessarily impossible.

That's good to hear. Thanks for the quick reply smile

Reply #166 - 2008 October 08, 3:21 am
Herbo Member
From: Japan Registered: 2006-10-11 Posts: 45

Everything is so spread out now across all the different forums and it seems like there are a few different side projects. What I REALLY want is a portable device (with instant power on) that supports EBWing dictionaries and Anki. This would be the ultimate tool for any japanese learner. Touch screen or stylus would be ideal so you can draw kanji when you dont know how to read them. Is there anything at this stage that fufils this need?

Reply #167 - 2008 October 08, 7:48 am
megabadd New member
From: Japan Registered: 2008-02-24 Posts: 8

The Sharp Zaurus does all that and more.

Reply #168 - 2008 October 08, 7:59 am
Herbo Member
From: Japan Registered: 2006-10-11 Posts: 45

megabadd wrote:

The Sharp Zaurus does all that and more.

That sounds incredible. So where exactly is the best place to get information on running Anki on it then? Do you know if it supports images or audio in the Zaurus version?

Reply #169 - 2008 December 16, 6:24 am
ctopp Member
From: Kyoto Registered: 2008-01-07 Posts: 17

@Misha:

After a long hiatus, I decided to upgrade my Zaurus to the latest version of ankiQt (alpha12), released just 2 days ago.  I think I upgraded everything that needed to, but when I run anki_qpe_launcher.py, I now get the following stacktrace:  Something seems to be not in sync?

bash-2.05$ anki_qpe_launcher.py
Display size = 480x640
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/QtPalmtop/bin/anki_qpe_launcher.py", line 38, in <module>
    ankiqt_lite_main.main()
  File "/opt/QtPalmtop/anki/ankiqt-lite/ankiqt_lite_main.py", line 152, in main
    else: run_app(filename)
  File "/opt/QtPalmtop/anki/ankiqt-lite/ankiqt_lite_main.py", line 47, in run_app
    widget = main_window.MainWindow(app, options)
  File "/opt/QtPalmtop/anki/ankiqt-lite/main_window.py", line 126, in __init__
    self.update_gui()
  File "/opt/QtPalmtop/anki/ankiqt-lite/main_window.py", line 464, in update_gui
    self.centralWidget().update_gui(self.options)
  File "/opt/QtPalmtop/anki/ankiqt-lite/review_widget.py", line 223, in update_gui
    b.hide() if self.options.hide_ans_buttons else b.show()
AttributeError: hide_ans_buttons
bash-2.05$

Would be great if you could look into this, since I already destroyed the old version:-(

All the best,  Ctopp

Reply #170 - 2008 December 16, 6:36 am
misha Member
From: Sydney Registered: 2007-04-05 Posts: 99

Ah, this is an easy one.

Delete your ~/.ankiqt-lite file, and restart Anki.

Let me know if that helps.  I'll add it to the Wiki.

Misha

Reply #171 - 2008 December 17, 4:02 am
ctopp Member
From: Kyoto Registered: 2008-01-07 Posts: 17

@Misha,

Bingo!  Yes, that did the trick, it looks like it works perfectly.  There are also more options for a larger font which is very welcome her!
Thanks a lot, also for your quick reply,

Ctopp

Reply #172 - 2008 December 23, 7:37 pm
megabadd New member
From: Japan Registered: 2008-02-24 Posts: 8

I'm having an odd problem with Anki on my Zaurus now. Things were working fine the other day, but I finally cleared my deck and got the 'congrats' with the message that I would have new cards to review tomorrow. However, even after two days, when I open my deck, all I get is the congrats screen but the amount of reviews is rising. I'm at work now, so I'll try and wash the deck through my PC version of Anki and see if I can get it running again.

EDIT: I also just opened my backup of the deck, and even though I haven't touched it in weeks, I get the Congrats screen for that too. I guess there's a file somewhere I have to delete?

Last edited by megabadd (2008 December 23, 7:43 pm)

Reply #173 - 2008 December 23, 8:07 pm
misha Member
From: Sydney Registered: 2007-04-05 Posts: 99

You're right, that is weird. 

Let's move this discussion to the ankiqt-lite forums:

http://sourceforge.net/forum/?group_id=216082