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@Misha
Ah, now I see that alpha7 is ready. You are working faster than I can write posts here:-)
Ctopp
@ctopp
No worries. alpha7 contains the fix as well, by the way.
Misha
EDIT: are you a time-traveller?
Last edited by misha (2008 June 26, 5:03 pm)
Hey guys. I just found out that the phone I just bought supports java j2me midp2.0.
I did a little googling and found about this software:
http://pauker.sourceforge.net/pauker.ph … minipauker
Does anyone have an impression on it?
Are there other softwares around for j2me?
Sorry if this is redundant, but will AnkiQT lite run on windows mobile?
Thanks!
AnkiQT Lite still needs a version of the QT framework. I don't know of any Windows mobile devices that use QT. So the short answer is no.
Long answer is "it may be possible" when someone manages to get QT onto a Windows mobile device. I don't know how feasible that is.
However, there's an port for the Windows devices being worked on independently from AnkiQT Lite. I haven't been keeping up with it, but I recall there was some sort of early test release on the Anki forums a couple of weeks back.
The old forums thread is located at http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php? … _id=701801 .
Cheers,
Misha
EDIT: fix URL
Last edited by misha (2008 June 29, 10:50 pm)
misha wrote:
alpha7 now available for testing from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfile … _id=609083
hey misha,
I haven't migrated to debian yet so I gave it a try for the first time on my sharprom 860. it's looking good! here's some feedback.
installation:
installed to sd with gui installer. the first couple of small libs need to go to internal flash but the rest are fine on sd. don't need any of the path setting in the sh script (as the gui installer puts in links) but do need to set PYTHONPATH for site-packages, but can do that in the py script. probably that should be set in the python build. the py script is missing the sys.argv[0] line so needed to add that to get the icon.
some suggestions for features:
space for show and default answer (3). visual ack of keypresses (as there's a bit of a lag before anything changes onscreen). make usable with just external ok and up/down keys. option to hide the big answer buttons to make more space available. autoload most recent deck on startup. option for per-field font and size (kanji is too small or other text to big). option to not show previous answer and interval at top of question to save space. some way to include the stroke order font.
nice to see you got the sqlite endianness sorted. I should ask the debian mantainers to do the same thing...
thanks!
Last edited by cangy (2008 July 03, 4:10 am)
Thanks for the comments and suggestions. I'll take them on board -- to be honest, most of them I have already been thinking about.
I'll look into the Python problem... it doesn't seem to happen on my side, but I've got it installed on the micro-drive.
What kind of QT does the Debian distro offer?
Alpha8 is out. Get it from the usual place.
Alpha9 is out, introducing 0.9.7 compatibility (mainly, sync protocol -- you won't be able to sync to the Anki server until you upgrade). libanki-0.9.7 is also packaged for the Zaurus. Please read the release notes (below).
- This release requires libanki version 0.9.7 and above.
- The deck format has changed from the previous version of libanki. I've been unable to get the format conversion to work on the Zaurus, so as a work-around, you will need to convert the decks using the desktop Anki, and transfer the converted result to the Zaurus.
Misha
Hi,
I maybe getting ahead of myself a little bit at the moment as I doubt I will need a device of this kind for a good while yet. I was wondering though is there a touch screen portable device (not a laptop) but perhaps more sophisticated than a PDA or PPC which could run Anki.exe as it currently stands, so that full synchronisation would be possible?
So far I have been searching and found nothing except for Linux running devices, although this may be too technical/specific a question here, if I were to get a linux running handheld and use it could I import/export/transfer accross files between linux and the windows .exe version on my main computer. So far this seems the only way...
I did read through the large Anki thread prior to posting this, but I also heard somone mention the Nintendo DS, obviously this would be the cheapest but I can only see that baing able to run an un-official port, which I would rather not have to resort to.
If there isn't a specific product that can be reccomended would it be possible to inform me of what the systems capabilities would have to be so that I can try and search a little further myself.
Edit: Would it be better if a product is stated, that I buy it imported from Japan so that I know it supports and has the capabilities of Japanese text input?
Thanks.
Shingo wrote:
I was wondering though is there a touch screen portable device (not a laptop) but perhaps more sophisticated than a PDA or PPC which could run Anki.exe as it currently stands, so that full synchronisation would be possible?
The gap between full-blown laptops and hand-held devices is shrinking, so all this depends on your interpretation of what exactly each class of device is
What sort of device are you after?
From memory, the Asus EEE PC should be able to run Anki with no modification. There was a thread about that on this forum (it may even be an older post on this thread, have a look). I recall one EEE PC guy trying it out, and saying that the screen layout wasn't quite right, and that everything was a tad slow, but this was a couple of months ago, and Anki has moved on a fair bit since then. This was for the Linux EEE PC (don't let that scare you).
From what I understand, the Asus EEE PC can also run Windows. Not sure what version, thought.
Shingo wrote:
So far I have been searching and found nothing except for Linux running devices, although this may be too technical/specific a question here, if I were to get a linux running handheld and use it could I import/export/transfer accross files between linux and the windows .exe version on my main computer. So far this seems the only way...
Don't forget that Anki is cross-platform. It runs on Windows, Linux and Mac, as long as the dependencies are met (you need things like Trolltech QT4, Python 2.5, SQL Lite, etc).
Shingo wrote:
If there isn't a specific product that can be reccomended would it be possible to inform me of what the systems capabilities would have to be so that I can try and search a little further myself.
A brief list of pre-requisites is above. As far as system specs (CPU frequency, RAM, etc) I don't know of any figures.
Shingo wrote:
Edit: Would it be better if a product is stated, that I buy it imported from Japan so that I know it supports and has the capabilities of Japanese text input?
Since you're going to use it for Japanese study, I think that's a good idea. You can ensure you have good handwriting recognition and text input features.
misha wrote:
Thanks for the comments and suggestions. I'll take them on board -- to be honest, most of them I have already been thinking about.
I'll look into the Python problem... it doesn't seem to happen on my side, but I've got it installed on the micro-drive.
What kind of QT does the Debian distro offer?
Shall I use your sourceforge bug and feature request trackers for future feedback?
So your launch script has the sys.argv[0] line, or it's not needed if you install to the disk? The small libs I installed to internal flash are libz and libssl and everything else went to sd.
There's only Qt/X11 AFAIK: http://packages.qa.debian.org/q/qt4-x11.html
But there is this too: http://packages.debian.org/etch/qt3-dev-tools-embedded
I wonder if QVFB could be used to run Qtopia binaries under debian?
misha wrote:
Alpha9 is out, introducing 0.9.7 compatibility
Alpha 8 and 9 both die with AttributeError: hide_ans_buttons.
Thanks Misha for your response,
The Asus looks ok but I was thinking of something smaller, PDa-ish, and with a touch screen. Do you know of any that match this, just so I have something to go off when searching further?
One thing that may drastically expand my options would be if I had a Linux handheld that would run the Linux Anki, and this could use the decks made on the Windows version on my computer. You did make a reply to my confusion in your last post but I couldn't discern whether you thought this would work or not, sorry.
Also would the Sharp Zaurus SL-C3200 for example, run the Linux release of Anki with minimum hassle, as it corresponds with the OS?
Thanks again : )
Last edited by Shingo (2008 August 26, 2:48 am)
cangy wrote:
Shall I use your sourceforge bug and feature request trackers for future feedback?
Yeah, that would be awesome, thanks.
cangy wrote:
So your launch script has the sys.argv[0] line, or it's not needed if you install to the disk? The small libs I installed to internal flash are libz and libssl and everything else went to sd.
OK, I will try and reproduce this bug again.
cangy wrote:
There's only Qt/X11 AFAIK: http://packages.qa.debian.org/q/qt4-x11.html
But there is this too: http://packages.debian.org/etch/qt3-dev-tools-embedded
I wonder if QVFB could be used to run Qtopia binaries under debian?
That's an interesting suggestion. I don't have enough understanding of the problem architecture to make a worthy suggestion, however.
cangy wrote:
Alpha 8 and 9 both die with AttributeError: hide_ans_buttons.
That's peculiar. I'm sure I'm using the same binaries that were uploaded to sf.net. I will double check, and let you know if I can reproduce this bug.
Could you double check that you're using the correct launcher and that paths are not messed up, etc? Thanks.
Misha
Shingo wrote:
The Asus looks ok but I was thinking of something smaller, PDa-ish, and with a touch screen. Do you know of any that match this, just so I have something to go off when searching further?
Well, there was the Zaurus... it has been discontinued, but for my personal needs it's the perfect Japanese language learning aid. It's still available, but you have to put a bit of effort into looking for it.
I'm not sure what the Zaurus has been replaced with (I think it's a Windows-based PDA) but it may be worth having a look at.
One thing I would recommend against is anything without a physical keyboard. Fans of the iPod touch (yeah, I've got one too) or iPhone might shoot me down here, but tactile feedback would goes a long way if you're planning to use it as a full-blown study tool (lots of text entry, etc). A device such as an Nokia n800 internet tablet (which I also happen to own) wouldn't really suffice here, in my opinion.
Shingo wrote:
One thing that may drastically expand my options would be if I had a Linux handheld that would run the Linux Anki, and this could use the decks made on the Windows version on my computer. You did make a reply to my confusion in your last post but I couldn't discern whether you thought this would work or not, sorry.
Sorry if I'm making things more confusing here. It is not practical to run the Linux version of Anki on any Linux PDA because Anki requires a library (additional software) called QT (version 4) for it's graphical interface. There are some PDAs out there with QT4 (e.g. QTopia Greenphone, but it's not available for general consumers). Devices such as the Zaurus only have QT2 (a much older version).
Shingo wrote:
Also would the Sharp Zaurus SL-C3200 for example, run the Linux release of Anki with minimum hassle, as it corresponds with the OS?
Now, what is practical is to rewrite Anki's graphical interface so that it no longer needs QT4. The "back-end" -- all the software that takes care of the scheduling, decks, synchronisation with the Anki web server -- remains the same. This ensures compatibility between the two versions. So, you can transfer the decks between your Windows/Mac home PC and Linux PDA.
That's exactly what is being done with AnkiQT Lite -- the version of Anki for the Zaurus. You can read more about it here if you're interested, or ask me if anything isn't clear.
I hope I've answered all your questions sufficiently.
Misha
cangy wrote:
misha wrote:
Alpha9 is out, introducing 0.9.7 compatibility
Alpha 8 and 9 both die with AttributeError: hide_ans_buttons.
OK, I think I know why you may be experiencing this problem.
Options from the older alphas (before alpha8) aren't compatible with the newer ones. This is likely to be causing your crash.
To get around this, delete your ~/.ankiqt-lite and restart the application. If it works, please let me know and I'll add it to the release notes.
Cheers,
Misha
misha wrote:
I hope I've answered all your questions sufficiently.
Misha
Thank you very much for your help, indeed you have answered them sufficiently. I think I will keep my eyes open for a Zaurus.
misha wrote:
To get around this, delete your ~/.ankiqt-lite and restart the application. If it works, please let me know and I'll add it to the release notes.
that was it! thanks, misha
Hey all.
Great work on the program misha, but I have a question. It takes Anki about 30+ secs to load, and then takes about 5+ secs to open a 3.5mb deck. I'm not complaining, just want to make sure this is normal behavior.
The reviewing is really fast though, thanks!
(I'm running it on a Zaurus 3100 with the Sharp ROM and Tetsu's Special Kernel)
Last edited by megabadd (2008 September 04, 8:13 am)
That sort of speed is normal. Just loading the interpreter takes a number of seconds on something as slow as a zaurus, and then Anki generates the revision queue ahead of time so that the time between reviewing cards is fast. If you have enough memory though, you can just keep Anki running in the background even when you're doing something else.
Thanks for clearing that up for me!
Hi,
recently I was thinking about getting a PDA/Handheld just to be able to use anki (or another srs program). I really wanna be able to review non-paper
flashcards wherever I go.
Therefore I'm looking for something REALLY small (cellphone-like). Something where I can start right away, without much flipping, opening etc. and something that is light and slim.
As I have NO IDEA at all about PDAs/Handhelds and the likes I need your help. I've read the posts in this entry, but I didn't understand much of what was going on (I have a headache now *g*).
So maybe you guys can help me find what I'm looking for.
I currently live in Japan, so I don't know if that's good or not when looking for a PDA/Handheld and the likes?!
Thanks a lot in advance ![]()
How about an ipod touch?
resolve wrote:
How about an ipod touch?
I don't know. What can an ipod touch do for me? ![]()
Aww, you live in Kumamoto? I just went there last month for vacation. Nice city (although I prefer Nagasaki and Kagoshima when it's Kyuushuu). Have you visited Aso-san yet? ![]()
I've lived in Kumamoto for about 4 1/2 years, so I'm well familiar with the sights :-)
I recently released Anki for the ipod touch. It's a small and thin device, which is what you were after.

