blargh88
New member
Registered: 2012-01-13
Posts: 4
Hi all,
I just started RtK and finished part 1 (~250 kanji). I haven't gotten to any mature cards yet, but my retention rate for most of the young cards is 90+.
Heisig always harps on creating these vivid pictures in your mind regarding the kanji, and how not doing so is setting oneself up for failure.
However, I generally just say a phrase to go with a keyword without imagining/picturing it. ie. 枯 = wither. I just tell myself "the tree grew old and withered" and move on.
In addition, since i don't usually imagine the pictures unless i'm having trouble, I usually forget my small phrase within the week. However, by then I have the kanji well remembered.
I realize everyone's learning methods are different, but was just wondering if anyone had insight on this matter.
Thanks,
Blargh88
undead_saif
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From: Mother Earth
Registered: 2009-01-28
Posts: 635
I used different ways depending on the Kanji, and mixed more than one in the same Kanji, all that matters is that the keyword will lead "eventually" to the Kanji no matter how crowded is your Kanji pocket, i.e each keyword has its unique position in your mind with an associated mnemonic that leads to the Kanji.
I used: pictographs, just sentences (but usually related to other Kanji, for example wither and suffer are sharp in my memory because I tied them together like this: trees wither when they get old while flowers suffer because they look ugly, so there's a combination here), images, weird events or things that I know and jokes.
To summarize, you have to make a clearly distinct place for each Kanji in your head.
Last edited by undead_saif (2012 January 22, 1:46 pm)
quark
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From: Canada
Registered: 2011-10-11
Posts: 201
I had the same problem when I tried RTK - I had a hard time coming up with visuals and stories. I ended up quitting somewhere around 750-800.
However, that doesn't necessarily count as a failure. Keep going with RTK - it's worked for a lot of people, and there's a good chance it'll work for you as well.
But even if it doesn't, don't tack the experience up as a 'failure'. If you give it an honest shot, realize it's not for you, and go on to try another method, then it still counts as a learning experience. There can be a lot of trial and error involved in learning something new.
Also, go check out some of the user submitted stories. Maybe a different story will help you get the visualization you're after.
s0apgun
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From: Chicago
Registered: 2011-12-24
Posts: 453
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For me... I just use the RTK Anki Shared deck that has the top two stories from this site. Making stories for all the kanji is too much work for me, I understand it works for others but I don't see the point. I spend all my valuable time learning new cards by reading through the koohii stories. If I see that I'm failing a card too many times or the stories are too long or stupid, I will edit the card and come up with my own.
This is the best solution IMO, making your own SRS deck, making your own stories, or looking up stories here and putting them into your SRS is a waste of time. There is plenty of resources to be lazy and still learn fast. I've done 50 cards a day this way up to the halfway point, decided to drop it down to 25 new a day though since the reviews started to pile up.