Internet Goes On Strike

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jettyke Member
From: 九州 Registered: 2008-04-07 Posts: 1194

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia: … Learn_more

Stop Online Piracy Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act

PROTECT IP Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_IP_Act

Obviously do what you can, even if you don't live in the US!
It's one world. Everything is connected and influenced by everything else.

This is gonna go even further deeper into human rights and we should do all that we can.

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/1746/22442457.jpg
http://sopastrike.com/

Watch a video about what is going on
http://www.g4tv.com/videos/56930/intern … s-ohanian/

Last edited by jettyke (2012 January 18, 4:31 am)

Inny Jan Member
From: Cichy Kącik Registered: 2010-03-09 Posts: 720

Wikipedia blocked its pages and displays: "Imagine a World Without Free Knowledge".

Jarvik7 Member
From: 名古屋 Registered: 2007-03-05 Posts: 3946

Wikipedia still works if you hit stop before the page blacks out. Boing boing on the other hand is unusable.

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jettyke Member
From: 九州 Registered: 2008-04-07 Posts: 1194

Who cares about wikipedia?

Think about things in a more broader, global way. In case there's anything that you can do.

And I think there is.
Without a doubt.

Hint: Spread information

Last edited by jettyke (2012 January 18, 4:52 am)

Betelgeuzah Member
From: finland Registered: 2011-03-26 Posts: 464

It's one world. Everything is connected and influenced by everything else.

It's pretty alarming how one nation's decisions can affect everyone else yet everyone else have no right to have a say on the matter.

jettyke Member
From: 九州 Registered: 2008-04-07 Posts: 1194
Inny Jan Member
From: Cichy Kącik Registered: 2010-03-09 Posts: 720

jettyke wrote:

Who cares about wikipedia?

Who cares about America*?! You have counties like Iran or China that can live perfectly well without American internet.

*Actually, it wouldn't be good for the US to have this bill passed but it wouldn't be the end of the world either.

jettyke Member
From: 九州 Registered: 2008-04-07 Posts: 1194
zigmonty Member
From: Melbourne Registered: 2009-06-04 Posts: 671

I'm just annoyed google backed down from their threat. A day without *any* of google's services would have some kick. Can you imagine if gmail's servers just started bouncing mail? LOL.

Reply #10 - 2012 January 18, 5:07 am
jettyke Member
From: 九州 Registered: 2008-04-07 Posts: 1194

zigmonty wrote:

I'm just annoyed google backed down from their threat. A day without *any* of google's services would have some kick. Can you imagine if gmail's servers just started bouncing mail? LOL.

LOL big_smile

That would work like hell:D

But maybe somebody could sue google?
Because wikipedia is a non-profit organization.

edit:

Wait, if google would shut down the search, you couldn't spread the information at all big_smile

But some other services,...yeah.

Last edited by jettyke (2012 January 18, 5:12 am)

Reply #11 - 2012 January 18, 5:25 am
zigmonty Member
From: Melbourne Registered: 2009-06-04 Posts: 671

Jarvik7 wrote:

Wikipedia still works if you hit stop before the page blacks out. Boing boing on the other hand is unusable.

Or you could just use the japanese version. tongue

They are only blocking the english edition, although there is a banner explaining what's going on on the other editions.

Reply #12 - 2012 January 18, 5:27 am
nadiatims Member
Registered: 2008-01-10 Posts: 1676

Time for Americans to hold some kind of massive tax strike.

Or boycott some government service that you voluntarily pay for. Oh wait those don't exist...

Reply #13 - 2012 January 18, 5:31 am
jettyke Member
From: 九州 Registered: 2008-04-07 Posts: 1194

zigmonty wrote:

Jarvik7 wrote:

Wikipedia still works if you hit stop before the page blacks out. Boing boing on the other hand is unusable.

Or you could just use the japanese version. tongue

Learning Japanese is compulsory now big_smile You have nowhere to run big_smile

Nesetoru Member
From: 芬蘭 Registered: 2009-12-27 Posts: 122

This happens just when I had to look up some information about a movie on Wikipedia. At least ウィキペディア is working fine. big_smile

Last edited by Nesetoru (2012 January 19, 8:46 am)

kainzero Member
From: Los Angeles Registered: 2009-08-31 Posts: 945

I fully support the movement against SOPA.

And for that matter they need to stop showing me those clips of the man who runs the lights on a movie and how piracy damages his way of life. Gee maybe you should talk to your boss at the movie studio who owns like 12 cars and whose salary can provide for your way of living 300 times over.

oregum Member
From: Chicago Registered: 2008-10-20 Posts: 259 Website

I needed to look up something on wiki today, but it was blocked. Damn protesters, always complaining about somin or other. I just used the cached version. Gotta love free knowledge.

Last edited by oregum (2012 January 18, 12:27 pm)

Reply #17 - 2012 January 18, 1:39 pm
Splatted Member
From: England Registered: 2010-10-02 Posts: 776

This bill sounds insane. And for those still wanting to use the English Wikipedia:

Wikipedia wrote:

Is it still possible to access Wikipedia in any way?

    Yes. During the blackout, Wikipedia is accessible on mobile devices and smart phones. You can also view Wikipedia normally by disabling JavaScript in your browser, as explained on this Technical FAQ page. Our purpose here isn't to make it completely impossible for people to read Wikipedia, and it's okay for you to circumvent the blackout. We just want to make sure you see our message.

Reply #18 - 2012 January 18, 3:02 pm
JimmySeal Member
From: Kyoto Registered: 2006-03-28 Posts: 2279

Inny Jan wrote:

jettyke wrote:

Who cares about wikipedia?

Who cares about America*?! You have counties like Iran or China that can live perfectly well without American internet.

*Actually, it wouldn't be good for the US to have this bill passed but it wouldn't be the end of the world either.

I think you neglect to realize that the majority of the world's internet services are hosted on American land.  This bill doesn't just affect American internet, whatever that is.

Reply #19 - 2012 January 18, 3:09 pm
jettyke Member
From: 九州 Registered: 2008-04-07 Posts: 1194

JimmySeal wrote:

Inny Jan wrote:

jettyke wrote:

Who cares about wikipedia?

Who cares about America*?! You have counties like Iran or China that can live perfectly well without American internet.

*Actually, it wouldn't be good for the US to have this bill passed but it wouldn't be the end of the world either.

I think you neglect to realize that the majority of the world's internet services are hosted on American land.  This bill doesn't just affect American internet, whatever that is.

And also many people fail to realize, it seems, that this issue is one of the biggest issues that has happened in the world in a looong loooong time sad

If the internet gets screwed, we're screwed hmm

Internet is the biggest and most innovative thing that humanity has created so far.
And if this tool gets in the wrong hands, well who knows...

Reply #20 - 2012 January 18, 4:27 pm
Inny Jan Member
From: Cichy Kącik Registered: 2010-03-09 Posts: 720

JimmySeal wrote:

I think you neglect to realize that the majority of the world's internet services are hosted on American land.  This bill doesn't just affect American internet, whatever that is.

If you say that services that functioning of internet relies on are located on American soil then it makes that internet American in my books. I still though would like to hear which services specifically you have in mind.

Reply #21 - 2012 January 18, 4:36 pm
Fadeway Member
From: Sofia Bulgaria Registered: 2012-01-01 Posts: 90

They're basically trading the best form of liberty available to humanity at this point for money, and not that much money either (what Hollywood earns is a drop in the bucket compared to the profits based on the Internet, not to mention that the resources spent enforcing the bill would make the net profit go into the negative; luckily for the movie industry, it won't be they that will be paying for said enforcement). I don't generally hate capitalism, but this comes off to me as a very ugly side of that particular ideology.

Though IMO, this will happen sooner or later. Either as a single bill (current) or as a series of restrictions imposed over the years, maybe even decades. As long as the government holds the ability to censor the Internet, eventually, it will do so - after all, Diet members change (or whatever they're called in America), and so does public opinion. The better alternative, for me at least, is to get the Internet censored in a single, broad movement, thus provoking a public outcry and forcing the power users to create the proverbial Darknet that would be decentralized and thus protected from corporate meddling. With the power users leaving, the censored version would lag further and further behind the free one, even without considering the limitations imposed on it by USA law. Sadly, such a future is thus far only a dream sad

Reply #22 - 2012 January 18, 6:55 pm
kainzero Member
From: Los Angeles Registered: 2009-08-31 Posts: 945

Inny Jan wrote:

If you say that services that functioning of internet relies on are located on American soil then it makes that internet American in my books. I still though would like to hear which services specifically you have in mind.

take it away, mr. khan!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzqMoOk9NWc

Reply #23 - 2012 January 18, 7:15 pm
IceCream Closed Account
Registered: 2009-05-08 Posts: 3124

i've been hearing about this for months, but after watching Khan Academy's video, it seems like a huge overreaction to me.

No, someone putting a comment with a link on your site to some other site with illegal content doesn't make your site liable. The bill states quite clearly that it's only if your site has limited to no purpose other than those types of links.

So no, youtube, flicker, etcetc can't be viewed that way, since they aren't dedicated primarily to sharing illegal content, or linking to that content.

Anyway, isn't it that they can only make the name not point to the site? They couldn't stop you going there if you had the numeric address, right? So in the worst case scenario, people would just share those, wouldn't they?

The internet is great, and i'd like it to remain as free as possible, but i hardly see it as being one of the biggest issues of our times...

rrrrrr must.stop.posting.here.must.read...

Last edited by IceCream (2012 January 18, 7:16 pm)

Reply #24 - 2012 January 18, 7:50 pm
Marble101 Member
From: New Jersey USA Registered: 2011-09-05 Posts: 112

This bill essentially gives Congress the right to block any website they feel like. True, it cannot be "any" website, but the way it is worded (I'll find the specific clause), any company that is accused has to go through a massive court hearing. Small businesses and non-profit organizations can't take the hit and will be essentially oblitherated.

With this kind of power, you would say that you hope it didn't fall into the wrong hands. This is the American Congress, one of the most corrupted of 3rd wrold countries. It has fallen into the wrong hands.

Reply #25 - 2012 January 18, 9:55 pm
IceCream Closed Account
Registered: 2009-05-08 Posts: 3124

well, i'd expect that they'd have to have a reasonable case against a website for the police (or whoever carries it out) to act on it... i'd definately hope it wouldn't work on the same principle as copyright claims on youtube for instance. Usually the state won't carry through a case they don't stand any chance of winning, and the bill seems well worded enough to stop many rogue cases being pressed. Better worded than some other laws i've seen, anyway. Though if it is like you say, then yeah, there's definately issues.

... on the other hand, at least anyone CAN fight their side with this bill. I'd like to see equal pressure being mounted to repeal the law that's still holding suspected terrorists for years on end without trial or any legal representation at all at guantanemo bay. Some of them have been there for close to a decade now.