Is it really worth....?

Index » 喫茶店 (Koohii Lounge)

 
Raschaverak Member
From: Hungary Registered: 2008-12-30 Posts: 362

Living? Life? Just wondering smile

kitakitsune Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2008-10-19 Posts: 1006

Aw u sad?


IMO the answer is yes

lardycake Member
Registered: 2010-11-20 Posts: 174

Used to ask myself this question every single day. I still do often.

I found that by embracing nihilism it got the weight off my shoulders a bit, basically I stopped giving a **** (in a good way).

Some people use religion to fill this void, I'm an atheist but wish I could be blinded by a religion...I would rather know the point in life (and be wrong) than stuck in this mess not knowing what is going on.

Hope that helps, if you're anything like me it wont. I think you can only create your own purpose in life, everything else is out of control.

Last edited by lardycake (2011 November 18, 5:18 pm)

Advertising (register and sign in to hide this)
JapanesePod101 Sponsor
 
TheVinster Member
From: Illinois Registered: 2009-07-15 Posts: 985

Yes, otherwise you couldn't wonder.

astendra Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2009-07-27 Posts: 350

Is it worth wondering, when you could be living life?

vonPeterhof Member
Registered: 2010-07-23 Posts: 376

lardycake wrote:

Used to ask myself this question every single day. I still do often.

I found that by embracing nihilism it got the weight off my shoulders a bit, basically I stopped giving a **** (in a good way).

I also went through something like this. Got over it by embracing either nihilism or a form of existentialism, not really sure which. I could do some research and reflection to find out exactly which one it was, but I don't give enough of a **** to do even that wink

Last edited by vonPeterhof (2011 November 18, 6:10 pm)

Tzadeck Member
From: Kinki Registered: 2009-02-21 Posts: 2484

Hopefully this doesn't mean that you're in a bad way at the moment Raschaverak.  Hang in there!

Even if at any given moment life might seem bleak, in the long run run it balances out and it's worth it.

(If you want to combine Japanese learning with an existential crisis, Evangelion is a great series.  At heart, Evangelion is about solving the problem of giving your own life meaning.  Watch the show, don't read the manga--unlike most series, the anime is the original of the two and is much better)

voiii New member
Registered: 2011-09-10 Posts: 4

To think I was basically thinking about this a few moments ago ahaha.
[Except for me it was more like "What is the point of living?"]

Sometimes life just seems so pointless. [Well at least mineee is]
So its something I waste my time thinking about a few minutes everyday, then brush it off, thinking about how its more pointless to waste time thinking about the pointlessness of it. ahaha

But seriously even if life is pointless, you need to make the best of it.
Life is probably worth living, you just haven't found out truly why yet [neither have I], but you should hang in there and try your best to accomplish stuff. :3
I mean its better to make the most of your life and attempt to improve it, than to mope around about how sucky it is, if you have mopey thoughts like that, it does suck, try to get positive thoughts no matter your situation, it helps over time.

You still got years ahead of you, so who knows what you could accomplish in the long run, to make it feel as if its worth living even if there's the possibility its technically not. big_smile [if you get to the point you feel its worth living regardless, at least that's something big_smile]

[no clue if you're down in the dumps, but I answered this as if you were ahahah XD; I know I probably blabbed around meaninglessly XD]

Teaish Member
From: New York City Registered: 2011-08-19 Posts: 10

I just live my life seeking as much happiness and fulfillment as possible. Whether it's worth it or not, who knows? What IS "worth", even? I have this thing here called "life", and I've decided to ride it as best as I can.

Last edited by Teaish (2011 November 18, 7:41 pm)

bcrAn Member
From: 名古屋 Registered: 2011-04-29 Posts: 244

Do other animals commit suicide?

Last edited by bcrAn (2011 November 18, 8:43 pm)

Zarxrax Member
From: North Carolina Registered: 2008-03-24 Posts: 949

bcrAn wrote:

Do other animals commit suicide?

Yes.
http://www.zoenature.org/2011/08/did-ca … t-suicide/

Amset Member
Registered: 2008-09-07 Posts: 94

Raschaverak wrote:

Living? Life? Just wondering smile

Reminds me of a poem by Dorothy Parker (via Stephen Fry)

Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp;
Guns aren't lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.

I often wonder about these things myself. Life is "meaningless", yes, but whether this seems like a good or a bad thing depends on your mood. If you are happy, the meaningless of life gives you freedom to create your own meaning (like existentialists like to say). If you are sad, life being meaningless makes you feel hopeless.

If you are depressed there isn't any shame in it. It's not true when people say that everyone is depressed some of the time. Not everyone has depression (of course everyone is sad sometimes, but not depressed i.e. for a long period of time and to such a degree that it interferes with living). If you think you are depressed, please consider therapy/medication if you haven't already.

Last edited by Amset (2011 November 18, 9:07 pm)

dtcamero Member
From: new york Registered: 2010-05-15 Posts: 653

get your japanese up and go do what thecite did, run around jland boinking cute girls... then come back and ask yourself how ridiculous that question sounds.

thistime Member
Registered: 2008-11-04 Posts: 223

Life does have meaning and there is a reason that we are all here. But, I don't think things like seeking as much happiness, enjoyment, good times, good feelings or any other thing that focuses on the self and what you can get, is it. I think these things will ultimately just leaving you feeling even more alone and empty.

Personally, I think that we are all made to be connected to God and to each other. You may or may not agree with my views on God, but I don't think many people would argue with the statement that humans are social creatures. So I think learning to give to and live for others will give you a tremendous amount of meaning in your life. Instead of asking yourself , "What can I do to make myself happy today?" Ask yourself, "What can I do to make X happy today?" And see how much happier that makes you. You may not be interested in exploring the idea of God but I think it is at least worth looking into. The meaning of life is a big question and I wouldn't want to leave any rock unturned.

("You" is not referring to anyone in particular as, obviously, I know nothing of anyone's life/history here.)

ファブリス Administrator
From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

Ne'ermind.

jettyke Member
From: 九州 Registered: 2008-04-07 Posts: 1194

Is living life worth it?

Essentially No.
But you already live.

And to make yourself decide to commit a suicide is a difficult task.
And you can always do it, so you don't have to think about it now.

So why not try to make your life a sweet dream?
And if that fails you have all kinds of other options.

I don't think that there is anything bad if you decide not to live though, no matter what other people say about it.

Zorlee Member
From: Oslo / Kyoto Registered: 2009-04-22 Posts: 526

jettyke wrote:

I don't think that there is anything bad if you decide not to live though, no matter what other people say about it.

Are you kidding me?
Have you thought about what a suicide does with family members and friends?
This is the most ridiculous post I've seen in a while.

jettyke Member
From: 九州 Registered: 2008-04-07 Posts: 1194

ファブリス wrote:

If there is really no thinker, but simply life doing its thing, maybe that's what the Eastern Asian thought is pointing at when they say the universe is ultimately empty.

Totally love your point!

Agree with it. life goes on with you or without you. And you are just like a vessel or even not that.

Raschaverak Member
From: Hungary Registered: 2008-12-30 Posts: 362

Ah, I see, this has turned into a rather philosophical question. Thanks, for the answers, I guess everyone has to find their purpose for living. Oh yeah, I'm on medication for depression, now, and at the time of the opening of the post, I was feeling a bit down...
But if anything, the feeling of the pump (extra blood flow to the muscles) makes it always worth it! smile

ta12121 Member
From: Canada Registered: 2009-06-02 Posts: 3190

Raschaverak wrote:

Ah, I see, this has turned into a rather philosophical question. Thanks, for the answers, I guess everyone has to find their purpose for living. Oh yeah, I'm on medication for depression, now, and at the time of the opening of the post, I was feeling a bit down...
But if anything, the feeling of the pump (extra blood flow to the muscles) makes it always worth it! smile

You should listen to any type of music that motivates you(get's you pumped up). It helps no matter what(or maybe it's just me?).

sue144 New member
From: Canada Registered: 2011-03-12 Posts: 3

Raschaverak wrote:

Living? Life? Just wondering smile

Dear friend. Take heart! Simple answer to your question is indeed life is worth living big_smile
I’m not sure whether you are being real or posting for fun but I am treating this with the utmost seriousness.  As such I am dismayed by some of the reckless and over philosophical posts above when this could be a cry for help. Maybe I am being a tad dramatic but I work at a job where it’s my duty to ask people whether they are having suicidal/homicidal ideations.

What is the purpose of life? To me it’s straightforward. The purpose of life is to worship God appropriately. I don’t want to turn this into a religious debate as I know some people here don’t believe in an afterlife. The point I’m trying to make is for you to find something to believe in or something that will motivate you to get up in the morning. If you think about it life is short (cliché). We’ll most likely live a few decades (being generous here) and after that is death. So, make the most of what you’ve got: (1)Don’t look at what you don’t have but what you do and be thankful for that. (2)Realize that there are countless people who have it harder than you but they still endure. (3)It’s hard to change your physical environment but it is easier to change your outlook on life. (4)Take pleasure in the little things that life offers you. (5)Get out more and meet new friends. (6)Stop watching TV and reading things that will make you feel lousy about your life (7)Volunteer and donate to create causes (8)Please seek help in times of need!!

“Trials and tribulations are like feeling the heat and cold, when one knows that they cannot be avoided he will not feel anger at their onset, nor will he be distressed or disheartened.”

“What can my enemies do to me? I have in my breast both my heaven and my garden. If I travel they are with me, never leaving me. Imprisonment for me is a chance to be alone with my Lord. To be killed is martyrdom and to be exiled from my land is a spiritual journey.”

Cheers to Living Life!^^
---S

Last edited by sue144 (2011 November 19, 7:23 pm)

dizmox Member
Registered: 2007-08-11 Posts: 1149

The hope of being able to start a new life in Japan keeps me meaning to keep going~

Last edited by dizmox (2011 November 19, 7:24 pm)

sue144 New member
From: Canada Registered: 2011-03-12 Posts: 3

Raschaverak wrote:

Ah, I see, this has turned into a rather philosophical question. Thanks, for the answers, I guess everyone has to find their purpose for living. Oh yeah, I'm on medication for depression, now, and at the time of the opening of the post, I was feeling a bit down...
But if anything, the feeling of the pump (extra blood flow to the muscles) makes it always worth it! smile

Ahh~ Glad you're holding up! Gotta love meds^.^

quark Member
From: Canada Registered: 2011-10-11 Posts: 201

One of the best ways to deal with depression and feeling like life isn't worth it is to change your way of thinking.  Sounds so much easier than it actually is to do, but it works.  I've struggled with depression for years, and being in that fog is almost comforting, like wrapping yourself in a blanket.  A really crappy blanket. 
Since I've become an athiest, I've realized that we only have one shot at living, and our time here is really short.  This alone has helped my attitude, as I don't want to spend my time here being miserable.
For myself, even something as simple as going for a walk, and taking notice of the things around me will help chase away any feelings of sadness or worthlessness.  Go visit a friend, watch a funny movie, or maybe take a class or volunteer.  Sometimes something small can make a huge improvement on the way you look at things.  If you've made a mistake, realize that what's done is done, and you can't change it. However, you can learn from mistakes, and move forward.
There will be days where you'll feel depressed, and that's normal, and there's nothing wrong with it.  But try to think of those days as the exception, not the rule. There will again come time where your mind will be clear, and you can find things that you enjoy.
Going to the doctor is a great first step.  I hope you find something to help you feel better about life.  Good luck!

Last edited by quark (2011 November 19, 8:30 pm)

IceCream Closed Account
Registered: 2009-05-08 Posts: 3124

just hold on Raschaverak, things'll start getting better soon. But you have to practise not thinking about this stuff too!!! If things don't start improving after around 6-8 weeks, try a different type of medication.

If you don't have a pet, get a cat or dog. They make the time you don't spend with people soooo much less lonely, and they're super-entertaining. wink

Also, watch lots of silly happy J-Dramas, and don't give yourself time to think.

i dunno if life is really worth living, but when you're happy these questions don't matter so much. Also, you're going to be dead much longer than you'll ever be alive anyway, so may as well enjoy whatever time you have however you can. Except, life isn't so serious. Just treat it like a joke and laugh as often as you can smile

Last edited by IceCream (2011 November 19, 9:27 pm)