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TheVinster Member
From: Illinois Registered: 2009-07-15 Posts: 985

I of course need a camera for when I go to Japan, so I was looking at the Sony HX5V here on Amazon. If any of you have this camera, can you give me your recommendation or not? Also, I will also consider recommendations for other cameras. I don't require anything too extravagant, but I also don't like to upgrade often, so I feel the camera I listed would be good long-term. Also it has video capabilities for when/if I need that.

nest0r Member
Registered: 2007-10-19 Posts: 5236 Website

You should get the GoPro HD Hero and use it on the streets of Japan so we can have first-person POV videos. (Edit: In case you missed it here/on the wiki: http://www.youtube.com/user/egawauemon# … 160C710C64)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOio4t08boc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL84E … r_embedded

Last edited by nest0r (2011 September 04, 4:00 pm)

ta12121 Member
From: Canada Registered: 2009-06-02 Posts: 3190

I do plan on getting a digital camera(HD 720P). So I can take a lot of pictures+videos(HD). Nowadays I they aren't that much. So you can get a camera that has  HD capability and high mega pixel

I remember buying a digital camera like 4 years ago, man was that a man investment(at the time). Now i'm sure everyone can find a good one for around 150-200$ or a bit more.

Last edited by ta12121 (2011 September 04, 2:56 pm)

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marcmiddag Member
From: stockholm Registered: 2010-08-31 Posts: 32

Lumix Panasonic are great imo. The FujiFilm X100 is superb.

ta12121 Member
From: Canada Registered: 2009-06-02 Posts: 3190

marcmiddag wrote:

Lumix Panasonic are great imo. The FujiFilm X100 is superb.

Cool, that one looks nice

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/pan … f37840en02

Tzadeck Member
From: Kinki Registered: 2009-02-21 Posts: 2484

Make sure you buy it before you come to Japan, by the way.  The models for almost all of the camera companies are different in Japan, and you can generally get a better camera for less outside of Japan.

The exception is Nikon, which has the same models in and outside of Japan.  I ended up having to get a Nikon since I'm in Japan, and I went with the Coolpix s8000.  It's a pretty good camera, and I got it on sale for less than 200 dollars.  But, I could have gotten a better camera for cheaper if I was buying Canon in America.  (The good Canon models in Japan were all very expensive)

There are a lot of really serious camera websites online, and I recommend checking them out.  Usually they have like twenty page reviews of cameras that are really in-depth.  They will primarily review SLRs, but most of them also review the best compact cameras that are released each year.

(For example, when I bought my Nikon I first read through this review:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/C … S8000A.HTM )

Last edited by Tzadeck (2011 September 04, 7:13 pm)

Jarvik7 Member
From: 名古屋 Registered: 2007-03-05 Posts: 3946

Just don't get a Sony point & shoot, they are probably the worst cameras on the market.

thurd Member
From: Poland Registered: 2009-04-07 Posts: 756

In my experience I've found that compact cameras aren't much different than current phone cameras. So if you decide to drag along another gadget with you, it should be a proper camera like a DSLR.

I've bought Panasonic Lumix a few years back (for around 350$ if I remember correctly) and I've been very disappointed with its picture quality, it takes decent shots in perfect conditions (outdoors, bright sun) but anything indoors, half-lit or otherwise problematic becomes grainy with lots of noise and generally very dark. Horrible picture, just like my camera phone. So why bother with a compact?
I've used it a few times but soon just ditched it for my phone camera since it was just more convenient.

In Japan I bought a Nikon D5100 and I'm really happy with it: picture quality is great, movies are great, it performs well in every situation and now I am the only factor that limits quality of my pictures.

In my opinion you should look at something like this. It was my second choice, goes for around 57000 yen (but you get a 10% tax discount), great reviews but a little worse picture quality than D5100 (much cheaper in return). Perfect for a first DSLR.

TheVinster Member
From: Illinois Registered: 2009-07-15 Posts: 985

I'm really not considering a DSLR. My phone shoots crappy pictures anyway, and I can't upgrade until next July lest I want to break contract. It might be easy for some people to just go up a few hundred dollars, but I don't have enough money for that. Yes I'm going to buy it while I'm still here in America and no I won't go over $200. The one I linked is $205, but a couple days ago it was $180. I really need to save as much extra cash as I can for when I go to Japan.

gdaxeman Member
From: Brazil Registered: 2007-06-19 Posts: 278 Website

TheVinster wrote:

I'm really not considering a DSLR. [...] It might be easy for some people to just go up a few hundred dollars, but I don't have enough money for that. Yes I'm going to buy it while I'm still here in America and no I won't go over $200.

If you want a point and shoot stick with Canon, not Sony. Like these ones:
Canon PowerShot SD1400IS 14.1 MP Digital Camera ($198.95)
Canon PowerShot ELPH 300 HS 12.1 MP Digital Camera ($229.00)

The first one is an older model but right within your budget.

Jarvik7 Member
From: 名古屋 Registered: 2007-03-05 Posts: 3946

I'm a fan of the Canon G series (have a G10). They are a lot more complex to operate fully than a typical point & shoot though (the camera gives you more control).

TheVinster Member
From: Illinois Registered: 2009-07-15 Posts: 985

gdaxeman wrote:

TheVinster wrote:

I'm really not considering a DSLR. [...] It might be easy for some people to just go up a few hundred dollars, but I don't have enough money for that. Yes I'm going to buy it while I'm still here in America and no I won't go over $200.

If you want a point and shoot stick with Canon, not Sony. Like these ones:
Canon PowerShot SD1400IS 14.1 MP Digital Camera ($198.95)
Canon PowerShot ELPH 300 HS 12.1 MP Digital Camera ($229.00)

The first one is an older model but right within your budget.

The newer model looks pretty good. I can definitely go up a couple bucks if it means getting a better camera. Along with most peoples recommendations, it seems Canon would be the better, if not the best, choice for a point-and-shoot. I'm not leaving until the end of November, so I can still explore model options, but I am liking the PowerShot ELPH.

caivano Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2010-03-14 Posts: 705

For a compact check out the Ricoh ones, they're really nice but pricey, they prob have some cheaper models tho.

Oniichan Member
From: 名古屋 Registered: 2009-02-02 Posts: 269

TheVinster wrote:

gdaxeman wrote:

TheVinster wrote:

I'm really not considering a DSLR. [...] It might be easy for some people to just go up a few hundred dollars, but I don't have enough money for that. Yes I'm going to buy it while I'm still here in America and no I won't go over $200.

If you want a point and shoot stick with Canon, not Sony. Like these ones:
Canon PowerShot SD1400IS 14.1 MP Digital Camera ($198.95)
Canon PowerShot ELPH 300 HS 12.1 MP Digital Camera ($229.00)

The first one is an older model but right within your budget.

The newer model looks pretty good. I can definitely go up a couple bucks if it means getting a better camera. Along with most peoples recommendations, it seems Canon would be the better, if not the best, choice for a point-and-shoot. I'm not leaving until the end of November, so I can still explore model options, but I am liking the PowerShot ELPH.

I bought a Canon IXY 400F (14.1 MP) in Electric Town last year, and it was very reasonably priced. Are you sure you can't get a better camera for the same (or better price) in Japan? I would think that you'd have a better selection of models in Japan than the typical Best Buy wares. However, if you prefer brand-name memory cards, you might want to buy them stateside to save a few coins.

Sebastian Member
Registered: 2008-09-09 Posts: 582

thurd wrote:

I've bought Panasonic Lumix a few years back (for around 350$ if I remember correctly) and I've been very disappointed with its picture quality, it takes decent shots in perfect conditions (outdoors, bright sun) but anything indoors, half-lit or otherwise problematic becomes grainy with lots of noise and generally very dark. Horrible picture, just like my camera phone. So why bother with a compact?

I had the opposite experience. Had a Panasonic Lumix and loved it. It took really good pictures in low light and with moving subjects. Had it stolen, and next I had a Sony Cybershot. It takes crapy pictures in low light and with moving subjects. I guess it depends on the model, not just the brand.

Jarvik7 wrote:

Just don't get a Sony point & shoot, they are probably the worst cameras on the market.

That was my experience too.


To people interested in getting a new camera, I think you'll find these Lidehacker articles interesting:

How to Choose the Perfect Camera for Your Needs
Basics of Photography: The Complete Guide

It seems there are things you can only do with Canon Cameras:

DSLR Controller Lets You Operate Your Canon DSLR from Your Android

And the best of all (Canon cameras only):

Turn Your Point-and-Shoot into a Super-Camera
Transform Your DSLR into a Supercharged, Professional Video Camera

I also want to get a new camera. If Canon are not much more expensive than Panasonic, that article "Turn Your Point-and-Shoot into a Super-Camera" makes me
drool over the idea of getting a not-too-expensive Canon camera.

The Canon Hacker's Development Kit, aka CHDK, is a firmware enhancement that supports an impressive array of Canon digital cameras. I emphasize the enhancement aspect of CHDK because the tool is non-permanent and non-destructive, meaning that you load it onto your camera whenever you want to use it; CHDK makes no changes to your camera, and turning it off is simply a matter of restarting your camera. Installing CHDK involves copying a couple of files onto your camera's memory card; permanently removing it from your camera entails deleting those files. It's simple and powerful (sort of like hacking your router firmware) but even easier.

What Can CHDK Do For Me?

Enhanced Image Capture
Additional Information On-Screen
Additional Photographic Settings
chdk-userscripts.pngSupport for Small Programs/Scripts

Interesting indeed.

kainzero Member
From: Los Angeles Registered: 2009-08-31 Posts: 945

i'm against people getting a DSLR unless they have a true desire to learn photography.

too many people buy DSLRs and take tired, boring pictures that they could've have taken with a regular, cheaper digital camera.

i'm especially sickened by the people that use the zoom lens to zoom in and out instead of setting a focal length and walking back and forth, it shows a complete lack of photography knowledge.

composition comes first; then the technical aspects come in.

juniperpansy Member
Registered: 2009-08-03 Posts: 164

kainzero wrote:

i'm especially sickened by the people that use the zoom lens to zoom in and out instead of setting a focal length and walking back and forth

I love it when you see people with a slr taking pictures of the sunset with the flash on smile

kainzero Member
From: Los Angeles Registered: 2009-08-31 Posts: 945

if there's something in the foreground that they want to take pictures of (people, signs, etc.) then they need fill flash; otherwise the foreground becomes underexposed if they use the sun as background.

Last edited by kainzero (2011 September 06, 1:34 am)

cangy Member
From: 平安京 Registered: 2006-12-13 Posts: 372 Website

gdaxeman wrote:

If you want a point and shoot stick with Canon, not Sony. Like these ones:
Canon PowerShot SD1400IS 14.1 MP Digital Camera ($198.95)
Canon PowerShot ELPH 300 HS 12.1 MP Digital Camera ($229.00)

The first one is an older model but right within your budget.

The S95 is nice if you can spend a bit more.

Get a gps data logger while you're at it!

Last edited by cangy (2011 September 06, 8:30 am)

Sebastian Member
Registered: 2008-09-09 Posts: 582

Has anybody used the Canon Hacker's Development Kit (aka CHDK)?

Myrddhin Member
From: Norway Registered: 2009-02-15 Posts: 19

^ I tried the CHDK once with my aging Ixus. Opened up a lot of possibilities, RAW-format, scripting etc. But in the end, I discovered I had no use for all these extra features (I just need a point and click after all ;P). I did try some scripting for HD-photography, was a bit of fun on an otherwise boring day, but I haven't ended up using it for any practical purpose, so... tongue I think I still have the firmware on my SD-card, ready for loading should I need it...

rich_f Member
From: north carolina Registered: 2007-07-12 Posts: 1708

All this talk has me thinking about trading in my old Rebel XSi kit for a T3i body before I head to Japan. The magic lantern stuff looks hot, and all I would need would be a mounting kit for my old Sennheiser mics. I already have the 17-55 EFS f/2.8, which is a great little digital crop lens, and an old 80-200 EF-L f2.8, so I'm good for lenses that don't suck.

Hmmm....

bertoni Member
From: Mountain View, CA, USA Registered: 2009-11-08 Posts: 291

If you want to do some reading, dpreview.com does a fairly thorough analysis of the cameras that they manage to review.

rich_f Member
From: north carolina Registered: 2007-07-12 Posts: 1708

Yeah, I second dpreview.com. It's the only site I know of that puts a monitor calibration bar on its reviews. Only caveat: it can be a little over-the-top with the lingo if you don't know it. Otherwise, it's a solid site. It's what has gotten me to really start thinking about the T3i, because the body is relatively cheap, any my XSi kit is still in really good shape.

ta12121 Member
From: Canada Registered: 2009-06-02 Posts: 3190

Hey guys, I was wondering if you guys could help me choose a good digital camera. Sorry for reviving the thread but I want to get one within this month
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/digital-cam … 9-optemo-b