Now here's someone who's serious about language learning

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JimmySeal Member
From: Kyoto Registered: 2006-03-28 Posts: 2279
ThomasB Member
From: Tokyo, Japan Registered: 2010-02-27 Posts: 139

Haha wow, that's something.

wccrawford Member
From: FL US Registered: 2008-03-28 Posts: 1551

Wow, yeah.  I'm pretty sure I'd just accept the bad accent and continue...  Or pick a different language.  lol

Last edited by wccrawford (2011 August 19, 8:14 am)

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EratiK Member
From: Paris Registered: 2010-07-15 Posts: 874

Interesting, thanks. I'd do it. Sounds like a minor operation to me. But I wouldn't tell people. Plus between struggling to speak, and speaking with ease, it's not much of a choice, since speech therapy doesn't seem to apply here.

Last edited by EratiK (2011 August 19, 8:34 am)

mezbup Member
From: sausage lip Registered: 2008-09-18 Posts: 1681 Website

She'll fit right in, Korea is all about plastic surgery. I take my hat off to her though. She's obviously going to succeed at language learning... she even goes to a Korean church. It's the people who truly make it their lives that actually succeed.

ThomasB Member
From: Tokyo, Japan Registered: 2010-02-27 Posts: 139

I don't wanna change the topic but what scares me a bit is that she has never been to Korea. I hope she doesn't get disappointed or regret her decisions later on. If I was her I would've invested the money in a Korea trip and put off the tongue surgery for a while.

Last edited by ThomasB (2011 August 19, 8:53 am)

TheVinster Member
From: Illinois Registered: 2009-07-15 Posts: 985

I know it's just for the picture (I hope), but the fact she's holding a book that just says "Korean" is a bit scary.

aphasiac Member
From: 台湾 Registered: 2009-03-16 Posts: 1036

ThomasB wrote:

If I was her I would've invested the money in a Korea trip and put off the tongue surgery for a while.

What money? She had it done via the NHS - which means it cost her nothing! Hurruh for free socialist healthcare!!

Any as someone said already, this is a really minor "operation". No blood, no pain, wouldn't even require a trip to hospital, just a quick snip - her doctor probably did it. Many piercing shops offer this same procedure...it's handy lengthening your tongue to add extra tongue bars, or to please your lover (if you know what i mean..) wink

Last edited by aphasiac (2011 August 19, 11:14 am)

JimmySeal Member
From: Kyoto Registered: 2006-03-28 Posts: 2279

ThomasB wrote:

I hope she doesn't get disappointed or regret her decisions later on.

Unless she gets nostalgic for her minor physical anomaly, I don't really see her regretting this later on.  The headline makes it sound like they actually lengthened her tongue, but all they did was remove a piece of skin that most people wouldn't have.  I had similar surgery on the inside of my top lip because it was pushing my front teeth apart and I certainly have never regretted it. Anyone who has had an impacted wisdom tooth removed has had more extensive surgery than this.

What scares me is this quote:

'Some might say it's extreme, but you could apply the same argument to plastic surgery.

Has Britain reached the point where plastic surgery isn't considered extreme anymore?

Last edited by JimmySeal (2011 August 19, 9:23 am)

Reply #10 - 2011 August 19, 9:45 am
Splatted Member
From: England Registered: 2010-10-02 Posts: 776

No, but maybe Korea has...

ThomasB wrote:

what scares me a bit is that she has never been to Korea.

I was thinking the same thing, but more to do with the amount of effort she's put in to learning korean and the years of dreaming about going there than the surgery, which sounds risk free and useful. I just hope she likes it when she finally goes there.

Reply #11 - 2011 August 19, 9:54 am
AlexandreC Member
From: Canada Registered: 2008-09-26 Posts: 309

Until I hear the final result, my comment is: retarded.

Reply #12 - 2011 August 19, 10:14 am
pudding cat Member
From: UK Registered: 2010-12-09 Posts: 497

It's very minor surgery, she got it done for free and her accent has improved.  Sounds good to me.

Reply #13 - 2011 August 19, 3:03 pm
Conditional New member
Registered: 2011-08-03 Posts: 3

pudding cat wrote:

It's very minor surgery, she got it done for free and her accent has improved.  Sounds good to me.

Yeah, I don't see any problem with it. Even if she abandons Korean next week, she hasn't done anything she'll regret -- like, say, getting a tattoo in Korean.

Also, I'm impressed that she thought to discuss her pronunciation issues with her dentist. I'm not sure that would have occurred to many people, especially if they had no pronunciation issues in their native language.

Reply #14 - 2011 August 19, 3:07 pm
ta12121 Member
From: Canada Registered: 2009-06-02 Posts: 3190

mezbup wrote:

She'll fit right in, Korea is all about plastic surgery. I take my hat off to her though. She's obviously going to succeed at language learning... she even goes to a Korean church. It's the people who truly make it their lives that actually succeed.

Can't disagree with that, expect the surgery part.

Reply #15 - 2011 August 19, 5:40 pm
bcrAn Member
From: 名古屋 Registered: 2011-04-29 Posts: 244

She's hot.

Reply #16 - 2011 August 19, 5:52 pm
TheVinster Member
From: Illinois Registered: 2009-07-15 Posts: 985

bcrAn wrote:

She's hot.

...if you say so.

Reply #17 - 2011 August 19, 6:29 pm
Thora Member
From: Canada Registered: 2007-02-23 Posts: 1691

mezbup wrote:

She's obviously going to succeed at language learning... she even goes to a Korean church. It's the people who truly make it their lives that actually succeed.

But let's not leave out all the ones who succeed at language learning without truly making it their lives...  :-)

Reply #18 - 2011 August 19, 7:03 pm
nest0r Member
Registered: 2007-10-19 Posts: 5236 Website

Thora wrote:

mezbup wrote:

She's obviously going to succeed at language learning... she even goes to a Korean church. It's the people who truly make it their lives that actually succeed.

But let's not leave out all the ones who succeed at language learning without truly making it their lives...  :-)

What are you saying Thora, that you should only focus on efficiency and reduce how much L2 exposure you have? I don't understand. ;p

Last edited by nest0r (2011 August 19, 7:04 pm)

Reply #19 - 2011 August 20, 12:24 am
gdaxeman Member
From: Brazil Registered: 2007-06-19 Posts: 278 Website

So she did a lingual frenectomy — that's relatively common in Brazil, because if you have this condition you can't pronounce many things right and other people, especially children, will point that out (sometimes even mock those who speak that way, heh). I believe that, if someone also has the same condition as her and can't eliminate it with the help of a speech therapist, a frenectomy can help immensely even if the target language is not Korean but also Japanese, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish, Greek... actually so many languages there isn't even a need to list them all. English is a "lazy" language when it comes to moving the tongue so this kind of thing usually remains unnoticed if it's not physically detrimental (like it is when it makes eating harder), but it becomes visible when someone tries to speak those other languages correctly.

Reply #20 - 2011 August 20, 12:57 am
gdaxeman Member
From: Brazil Registered: 2007-06-19 Posts: 278 Website

ThomasB wrote:

I don't wanna change the topic but what scares me a bit is that she has never been to Korea. I hope she doesn't get disappointed or regret her decisions later on.

But having a frenectomy usually improves the lives of those who undergo it, if not just so that they can now lift their tongues better and lick stuff the way they're supposed to be licked (yeah).

Or, if you're talking about studying Korean with the intent of living and working there without having ever visited the country, I can't see how studying the language can be something to be regretted — not even the time spent can be mulled over, as most people usually do worse things with theirs. Also, the cognitive enhancement and expansion of horizons it brings certainly may help her doing numerous other things in case that plan doesn't work out as expected.

Last edited by gdaxeman (2011 August 20, 12:58 am)

Reply #21 - 2011 August 20, 9:24 pm
Nukemarine Member
From: 神奈川 Registered: 2007-07-15 Posts: 2347

I got 99 problems in language learning and a short tongue ain't one of them.

Reply #22 - 2011 August 21, 2:44 am
Omoishinji Member
From: 埼玉 Registered: 2011-07-12 Posts: 289

Someone a little over obsessed with language learning. With various different accents in English it just seems to be an unnecessary procedure. From my view learning something incorrect is more of an impediment in ones education. However, there is a great pleasure in learning how to do something correct, without any short cuts.

Reply #23 - 2011 August 21, 3:14 am
bodhisamaya Guest

Hmmm.  Being tongue tied is an actual condition.

Reply #24 - 2011 August 21, 4:38 am
EratiK Member
From: Paris Registered: 2010-07-15 Posts: 874
Reply #25 - 2011 August 21, 4:41 am
aphasiac Member
From: 台湾 Registered: 2009-03-16 Posts: 1036

EratiK wrote:

Couldn't resist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3t3IKlXqFU

LOL, I thought of the same thing when I saw bodhisamaya's comment!!!

You know you can get Red Dwarf dubbed into Japanese btw? The voice actors are excellent..v funny..