what would your ultimate learning software be?

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Reply #1 - 2011 June 11, 12:27 pm
IceCream Closed Account
Registered: 2009-05-08 Posts: 3124

just for fun, an idea from the yomichan thread smile

mine would be... a program which would load videos with japanese subs alongside it, and lets you watch, but then you can click on the line to go to a specific line. If you need to time or retime the subs slightly, or even just transcribe the line, you could do it there and then. Then you could click one single button to import that line to anki with snapshot and audio, with options to import whatever card layout you wanted, including context lines.

The program would also have some kind of popup dictionary functionality built in, or be online.

Even better if the program could run parallel text & audio for reading too, and you chop where you wanted, like a line, or a smaller bit, or just a word. In the word case, it would instantly pull the correct sound from JDIC and add it to your card.

In a really ideal world, it would work off a database of japanese dvds, which all have japanese subs. Complete with a "like" & review feature to share your favourite media with other koohii users, and smart way to work out difficulty level and i+1 ness to suggest the next i+1 sentence from everything in the database, or the next media to try by overall difficulty level. It would also give you a percentage rating of how much of another piece of media you're likely to understand based on what you've already studied.

ooh, and some kind of grammar analyser, where you can pull up multiple examples of a particular part of grammar for comparison, and then grab the ones you like easily for your anki deck. Complete with a perfect grammar explanation, of course...

oh, and a collocation analyser too, so you could see if what you're adding is a common collocation too.

big_smile

what would your ideal software be?

Last edited by IceCream (2011 June 11, 12:34 pm)

Reply #2 - 2011 June 11, 1:00 pm
Katsuo M.O.D.
From: Tokyo Registered: 2007-02-06 Posts: 887 Website

Mangajin (like in "Japanese the Manga Way") brought up-to-date on the iPad with audio. Touch the character to start/stop them speaking (an animated moving mouth would be neat).

Reply #3 - 2011 June 11, 1:35 pm
jcdietz03 Member
From: Boston Registered: 2008-12-19 Posts: 324 Website

I have no idea. How I am supposed to come up with something like that!?

1) Make Anki more adaptive.
A) What's wrong with the current state
You get an unfamiliar word wrong with "show failed cards in 10 minutes" set
However, you can't get it right after many tries.

B) How to change it
After you get it wrong, Anki will show you the card in 10 minutes.
After you get it wrong twice in a row, Anki will show you in one minute.
After you get it wrong thrice in a row, Anki will show you the card after the next card.
After you get it wrong four times in a row, Anki will show you the card again as the next card (until you get it right).

Then Anki will show you the card in 10 minutes.

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Reply #4 - 2011 June 11, 6:54 pm
Amset Member
Registered: 2008-09-07 Posts: 94

jcdietz03 wrote:

1) Make Anki more adaptive.
A) What's wrong with the current state
You get an unfamiliar word wrong with "show failed cards in 10 minutes" set
However, you can't get it right after many tries.

It looks like he's adding a feature very much like that in version 2.0: http://ankisrs.net/docs/changes.html#_learning

In 2.0 you can now define an arbitrary number of progressing steps before a card transitions from the learning state to a review state. Steps can vary from a few seconds to hours or days. For example, you might define a set of steps as 1m, 5m, 10m. When you first see the card, if you fail it then it’s shown 1 minute later, and if you pass it, 5 minutes later. After 5 minutes if you fail it then it’s back to 1 minute again; if you pass it then it’s 10m. Passing a card that’s at the final step graduates the card and converts it to a review card, which is due one or more days in the future.

He's pretty good at making changes to anki, you should put it in the suggestion google groups.

Reply #5 - 2011 June 11, 6:55 pm
kitakitsune Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2008-10-19 Posts: 1006

I just want a kindle with some sort of rikaichan support. That would be amazing.

Reply #6 - 2011 June 11, 9:56 pm
vosmiura Member
From: SF Bay Area Registered: 2006-08-24 Posts: 1085

In addition to what IceCream said, I'd also like some Trinity-like functionality.  Based on the words and sentences that you're studying, a tool could build an on-demand RTK order for you, including all the kanji you need plus their sub-components, and for new vocab, a cramming tool.

Reply #7 - 2011 June 11, 10:25 pm
NoSleepTilFluent Member
From: The Dirty Jerz Registered: 2011-02-07 Posts: 358 Website

Add a vocab word and let's you choose from community approved example sentence cards with Readings thoroughly checked and any suggested changes are listed on the cards so if a reading is wrong the community would know to check it. Has an (N+1) factor shown so you can decide if you'd rather just wait til later to add.

Can Make suggestions based on what Kanji you already know. For example, Has a list of N+0 N+1 N+2 etc. sentences handy so that you can browse through and add as you wish. Recalculates N+X value upon opening Deck. Leeched cards don't count towards goal as they need to be relearned.

Low maintenance as in it makes the Kanji Database and readings that I know of those Kanji by itself so I don't need to learn how to do it myself. Can work across all decks in Anki with an option to deselect certain decks (heisig)

The Sentence cards make it clear where the source of the sentences came from. ( Death Note Episode 4, NHK, All about Particles, Genki Chapter 1)

Highlights tested Vocab words in a Color, Highlights grammar in another color, Options for particles but not as a default setting.

Set Goals:
Readings for "These" Kanji.  Heisig JLPT whatever.



Pretty much I just want adding to be a mindless process but adaptable if I add Cards from say a drama or book I'm reading.

There's probably more I want but I need to get back to my reviews.

Reply #8 - 2011 June 13, 8:18 am
Boy.pockets Member
From: Japan Registered: 2010-07-31 Posts: 122

Weeeeee. Interesting post.

My ultimate learning software/environment would have this plug-in for Anki. The description is in the thread, but in summary; it tries to find the next "best" sentence for you to learn. "Best" is the next easiest; with fewest new words in it.

Lots more to consider, but that is a plug-in everyone should be using _now_.

Edit:

I did not read NoSleepTilFluent's post. He mentions n+1: that is what the plug-in is all about. Though it is still early stages - so not all automated yet, but pretty awesome.

Last edited by Boy.pockets (2011 June 13, 8:54 am)

Reply #9 - 2011 June 13, 8:34 am
duelarm Member
From: United States Registered: 2009-08-11 Posts: 14

Someone made the ultimate software already. Its called the Rikaichan + JDIC Audio Firefox Extension lol. jkjk

only not really.

Reply #10 - 2011 June 13, 8:54 am
Gingerninja Member
From: England Registered: 2008-08-06 Posts: 382

Surprised no ones said learning via head plug in  ala  the matrix.. would save so much time smile

A voice recorder that prints accurate subs.. so you can record conversation and go back and read what was written, so you can see the colloquialisms, the slang, etc.
Speech to text in japanese.. but actually useful !   aslo the ability to dictionary search the words that are spoken.   
Someone make an app for it.

Reply #11 - 2011 June 13, 9:06 am
jettyke Member
From: 九州 Registered: 2008-04-07 Posts: 1194

Made a similar thread here.
Here are some of my ideas.
http://forum.koohii.com/viewtopic.php?p … 42#p135342

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