This looks pretty great, thank you. Amazing how legendary that one deleted, mysterious post became. ;p

Also, おめでとう.

Last edited by nest0r (2011 March 07, 1:53 am)

animehunter123 wrote:

Thank you so much for your deck! This is going to help me so much! Wazawaza arigatou gozaimasu!

^_-

お疲れ様ー！ Tons of irregular reading, the biggest problem I have when I'm reading something. Thank you!
Didn't ever dream of this!
It's fun... No matter how much I study...There will always be an irregular reading made up of a number plus another kanji I can't read

Last edited by Shakunatz (2011 March 07, 5:44 am)

yay yay yay, thanks!

I think that as you perhaps initiated the useful J-J large sized deck sharing thing, now something interesting can start in the field of J-J!

By the way how many kanji does this cover?

and does this deck have that thing that 1 new word/expression per card?

Last edited by jettyke (2011 March 07, 8:25 am)

dang this is amazing. Good work.

This looks like a super useful deck. I'l be sure to check it out when I get home.

@Asriel Understood the same BUT this is the corrected version, see above. The sensei guy

@Asriel - Incomplete in what way? I was under the impression it was complete. Then again, I was also under the impression that the original did not need kanjification as it deliberately left out kanji in a progressive way?

And wow you're good at picking stuff up, just like with that hypothetical OCR'd text, but I don't think that example kana sentence is representative of a huge flaw so you perhaps don't need to worry. ;p It looks like that original example kana sentence in this deck has the よう in ようもう but it's 羊もう instead—thankfully there's multiple kana fields, so. I'm thinking it must be a product of the kanjification? The occasional overzealous bits. So maybe you'd come across extra/unkanafied kanji on occasion but not omissions of kana?

Just optimized the deck via Anki's tools. That made the browser much faster. ^_^

Also, maybe the OP was just referring to deck vs. corpus in the sense of an added differentiation from the Tanaka corpus, but I don't know, I've never seen the Tanuki deck before this one, just the Tanuki corpus. Are they different? Is the older Tanuki deck better/worse than the Tanuki corpus?

Last edited by nest0r (2011 March 07, 2:43 pm)

nest0r wrote:

@Asriel - Incomplete in what way? I was under the impression it was complete. Then again, I was also under the impression that the original did not need kanjification as it deliberately left out kanji in a progressive way?

Oh is that so? I say 'incomplete' simply because the kanji were left out. I didn't know it was deliberate. That's kinda cool, as a system...

And wow you're good at picking stuff up, just like with that hypothetical OCR'd text, but I don't think that example kana sentence is representative of a huge flaw so you perhaps don't need to worry. ;p It looks like that original example kana sentence in this deck has the よう in ようもう but it's 羊もう instead—thankfully there's multiple kana fields, so. I'm thinking it must be a product of the kanjification? The occasional overzealous bits. So maybe you'd come across extra/unkanafied kanji on occasion but not omissions of kana?

I was just thinking that if it was an automated process, it could be something that happened quite often, which might have been a problem. If not, then no worries -- just noticed it and thought I'd bring it up.

Also, maybe the OP was just referring to deck vs. corpus in the sense of an added differentiation from the Tanaka corpus, but I don't know, I've never seen the Tanuki deck before this one, just the Tanuki corpus. Are they different? Is the older Tanuki deck better/worse than the Tanuki corpus?

I actually don't know. All I have is a spreadsheet of the Tanuki Corpus from a long time ago. I'd love to take a look at it, but alas, I can't get to Anki on the computer I'm on. But with this new deck, I don't think the older things will be necessary anymore

To about what level(not strictly JLPT) of grammar and vocab does this deck cover?

Pcsl88 wrote:

This looks awesome but... where is the link?

It's in Anki's Downloads section.

FF6Forever, your contribution will be very useful for some people. Thanks for completing such a time consuming project!    (I'm curious, did you tutor have any comments about any of the idioms or the less common vocab?)

jettyke wrote:

and does this deck have that thing that 1 new word/expression per card?

Nukemarine shared a google spreadsheet which is apparently sorted per 2001KO and has the Core6000(?) vocab tagged. I don't know whether it was sorted on words or sentences. In any event, that version wasn't completed kanjified which might affect the sort. You could start with that order. Or perhaps Nukemarine could work his magic again with the revised data.

By the way how many kanji does this cover?

I don't know about kanji, but I can give you some idea how the Tanuki vocab compares to other vocab lists, if that's of interest to anyone. (Note that this is a comparison of words in the vocab field only. Tanuki has a lot of additional vocab in the sentences and definitions, including some idiomatic use and rare words.)

Tanuki:  7093 originally  (in whatever version of Tanuki I had)
             964 dups

The duplicates include:
  - same word & sense (presumably used to test each kanji separately)
  - same word, different sense (worth retaining)

~12 homographs: same kanji, different word (not included as dups and not included below).

      Tanuki:  6117 unique vocab

Tanuki vocab in:
      Core6K:  1990 (~6000 total)
      Core7-10K: 870  (~3700)
      JLPT:  2530 (~8000)
      Kanji in Context:  2700 (~7300 all kanji)
      Leeds Freq: 2870 (~14000)

The KIC number was surprising as I had assumed this was data based on KIC material (which has ~7300 kanji words.) By the way, these aren't precise numbers; I didn't check every minor variation (好きな　v. 好き for eg). Tanuki includes some expressions as well as different verb conjugations as separate items.

Some general observations:
-The kanji words common to all these lists (using a combined core10K) is somewhere around 2500 words. KIC and Tanuki are aimed at teaching readings for many kanji so their vocab is 100% kanji words, whereas the other lists include kana words. There are about 4000 words common to the lists that include kana.
-KIC covers all Jouyou kanji (not certain about Tanuki).
-Frequency lists cover fewer kanji (in the same number of kanji words after a certain number), but can be biased in other ways. Somewhat surprisingly, that 20K Wiki Freq list doesn't include many words common to all other lists. (A parsing issue?)
-Tanuki includes some uncommon stuff (sentence words with non-Jouyou kanji and a few sentence words that don't even appear in J-E dictionaries.) 

I love that it's called Tanuki. :-)