Is there any healthy way to survive on 1000 yen a day?

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Reply #1 - 2010 June 16, 5:38 am
jacf29 Member
From: St Louis MO Registered: 2007-07-23 Posts: 204

I have about 1700 a day for food but i want to bring it  down to 1000 yen a day without resorting to 100 yen pasta and sauce every day.  I have a microwave and hot plate with pan and pot.  i also have multivitamins. 

Any ideas?

Thanks.

Reply #2 - 2010 June 16, 5:46 am
nadiatims Member
Registered: 2008-01-10 Posts: 1676

Might be possible by only eating a small breakfast/lunch and dinner at donburi restaurants such as Yoshinoya, naka-u and so on...

Reply #3 - 2010 June 16, 5:51 am
jacf29 Member
From: St Louis MO Registered: 2007-07-23 Posts: 204

Yeah but I want to do this for a month or so and I can't say eating at donburi restaurants every night will be that healthy. 

I figured that by cooking it should bring down the cost.

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Reply #4 - 2010 June 16, 6:09 am
caivano Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2010-03-14 Posts: 705

Healthy cheap things:
bananas
soba
tofu
eggs

If you can base eating around these (along with the pasta) you can eat pretty cheap and healthy using whatever veg is cheap (you can usually get discounted stuff)

Reply #5 - 2010 June 16, 6:15 am
nadiatims Member
Registered: 2008-01-10 Posts: 1676

In that case I really doubt it. But doing the following will keep costs down:
Buy seasonal fruit and vegetables.
Eat tofu and natto.
buy meat/fish late at night when the price is discounted.
Don't buy cheese, butter, cereal
Buy less fruit
Shop at larger supermarkets instead of convenience stores.

My apologies if this is common sense....

Reply #6 - 2010 June 16, 6:17 am
Jarvik7 Member
From: 名古屋 Registered: 2007-03-05 Posts: 3946

It is easily possible to eat on 1000yen per day. It isn't possible to do it healthily and balanced unless you have a very small appetite though. Vegetables and especially fruits are very expensive here. To a previous poster, bananas are not cheap anymore. Prices in Japan have skyrocketed in the past year. Expect to pay at least 200-300yen for a tiny bunch, probably more in Tokyo.

It really depends on your definition of healthy though. The cheapo grocery bentos may be somewhat balanced, but they are far from healthy since they are sopping with oil (even the rice is oiled). I eat healthily (almost no packaged food) but not especially well balanced (no fruits at all unless you count orange juice, less veggies than I should have) for probably a bit less than 1000yen per day, but I have the benefit of subsidized work lunch (300yen!).

You can probably get close if you have a decent sized fridge so you can buy larger amounts of stuff (ex: a full cabbage is only a bit more expensive than a quarter of a cabbage). Also, watch when the time service sales are. The (major chain) grocery store I go to has a cheap day once a month for rice, one day a week for cheap meat, one hour a day for cheap eggs, etc. If you go late at night there is a lot of stuff 20-50% off too (perishable items). Avoid grocery stores at train stations or department stores, they are usually 2-4x the price of other stores and are meant for rich people.

If you plan on just heating up pre-made crap from the store, you'll never eat healthily on any budget tongue

Last edited by Jarvik7 (2010 June 16, 6:28 am)

Reply #7 - 2010 June 16, 6:41 am
caivano Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2010-03-14 Posts: 705

haha bananas are still cheap in Chiba, 128en for 5 small or 4 big. You can get other fruit quite cheap in 100en stores, which probably wont kill you.

Other cheap veggies - cucumber is like 50en, frozen edamame, carrots can be cheap, nasu too. Just depends on the place.

Reply #8 - 2010 June 16, 7:04 am
Katsuo M.O.D.
From: Tokyo Registered: 2007-02-06 Posts: 887 Website

I love Topvalu Noodle Seafood, only 87 yen (which leaves 913 yen per day for chocolate).

Alternatively, 100円 convenience stores (e.g. 99, Lawson 105) can be good value for small quantities of fruit, vegetables and other foods.

Reply #9 - 2010 June 16, 7:17 am
Womacks23 Member
From: 恵比寿 Registered: 2008-01-10 Posts: 596

You can easily approach 1000 yen a day if you learn to cook yourself and can learn to adapt to a more "Japanese" diet. What Jarvik said about meat and expiration dates is awesome advice. On the date of expiration you can find meat 50% off. It's really awesome.

I notice you only have one pan to cook with. Here are some Japanese cookbooks made for people who are busy and have really small kitchens. All of these are 二人分 so you can eat for dinner, then eat the other half for lunch the next day. If you get in a pattern of cooking from these books, or others like it, I guarantee your grocery bill will go down. And you will become more healthy in the process as you cut out conbini / fast food.

This one is one of my favorites. It's all recipes that can be made in one go with a single fry pan.
-りゅうたのフライパンひとつで男めし-
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%8A%E3%82 … amp;sr=8-1

And this one is good too. "For busy people" and contains more nutritional information than the first book.
- すぐできるからね!レシピ100 -
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%81%99%E3%81 … amp;sr=1-1

Last edited by Womacks23 (2010 June 16, 7:20 am)

Reply #10 - 2010 June 16, 8:42 am
Twentytw0 New member
Registered: 2007-07-15 Posts: 7

This guy managed to live off $1 of food per day for a month. Granted he uses a lot of coupons, but shows it can be done!

http://www.grocerycouponguide.com/artic … n-1-a-day/

Reply #11 - 2010 June 16, 8:51 am
Jarvik7 Member
From: 名古屋 Registered: 2007-03-05 Posts: 3946

He isn't in Japan. Coupons are a rarity here. Food is also very differently priced (just a single apple would put him over $1 for the day and breakfast cereal is very expensive), discount bulk packs don't exist, and much of what he seems to be eating would be luxury import items here. It says the retail value of what he bought before coupons was $500, which is what you'd have to pay (even if everything was priced similarly) in Japan since coupons essentially don't exist other than the odd campaign.

His serving sizes also seem very small and I'd be starving all day even though I'm skinny.

The cheapest way to eat in Japan would to just be a big bag of the cheapest rice you can find, eat it plain for breakfast, and stir fry some cheap veggies (cabbage mainly) and a bit of cheap meat with it, every lunch and dinner. You'd still be way over 3000 yen a month though, since a month's worth of cheapo rice is more than that if you're eating it every meal.

Last edited by Jarvik7 (2010 June 16, 9:06 am)

Reply #12 - 2010 June 16, 9:35 am
Blahah Member
From: Cambridge, UK Registered: 2008-07-15 Posts: 715 Website

1000 yen is around £7.40 (GBP). I live in the UK, which by all accounts is an expensive country (though possibly not quite as expensive as Japan). I can live very well on less than £5 a day. Last summer I cycled 4000 miles around europe over a 3 month period and spent an average of £2 a day, including in Germany, France and Italy which are all expensive compared to some other places I visited. There are some key ideas behind eating cheaply in any country and some have already been covered.

Make sure you know which staples are subsidized. In the UK, bread and milk are subsidized (and vitamin supplemented). In Italy, pasta. In Germany it's bread rolls and cheese. I presume in Japan that at the least white rice will be subsidized, and so you will be able to buy in bulk cheaply. Seasonal vegetables are cheaper, so are local vegetables. If you can find out where local fruit and vegetable markets are held, get your vegetables there. Don't eat fruit.

Visiting some types of cafe just before closing time you can get free food. For example, bakeries in the UK have to throw away any unsold produce after closing time, so you can go and get free pastries and bread 5 minutes before closing. Sometimes it's not free but just very cheap. I'm sure there is a similar type of shop in Japan.

Again, I can't say for certain if this is true in Japan, but here you can save a lot of money by buying certain foods frozen. This seems to apply particularly to fish here, probably something different in Japan. Obviously they keep longer this way, but you need a freezer.

If I remember correctly, though Japan doesn't really have coupons like the USA apparently does (we don't have them here either), you do have loyalty cards. I'm pretty sure you can make a good saving by carefully investigating which stores have the best loyalty system to price tradeoff. Then make sure you buy from that store whenever possible, for the items you know are cheapest there. Over time it will benefit you to stick to one shop as you can redeem your loyalty points. Wrightak has an article about it on his blog.

Oh yeah, regarding your vitamin tablets. Take one a day but never ever leave the cap off - with just a tiny amount of moisture in the bottle, most vitamins will denature and become completely useless, and you might as well eat soil. Keep them in a dry place (e.g. not the bathroom cupboard).

Last edited by Blahah (2010 June 16, 9:39 am)

Reply #13 - 2010 June 16, 9:50 am
kerosan41 Member
From: 青森県 Registered: 2007-11-23 Posts: 143 Website

I'd recommend trying to find a 業務 type grocery store. They're far cheaper for a lot of things and you can buy in bulk. Frozen vegetables and fruits at these type stores cost a fraction of the fresh versions.

Reply #14 - 2010 June 16, 10:02 am
bodhisamaya Guest

kerosan41 wrote:

I'd recommend trying to find a 業務 type grocery store. They're far cheaper for a lot of things and you can buy in bulk. Frozen vegetables and fruits at these type stores cost a fraction of the fresh versions.

I buy most all of my food from the 業務スーパー and spend maybe 500円 per day total on food.  Tofu 30円, Udon noodles 17円, bag of most any kind of frozen vegetables 100円.  Bananas go on sale for 50円 a bunch a couple days before going brown.  I pay more for rice now than I did back in Hawaii, but it is still cheap per serving.  Makes good inari.

Last edited by bodhisamaya (2010 June 16, 10:02 am)

Reply #15 - 2010 June 16, 10:06 am
Womacks23 Member
From: 恵比寿 Registered: 2008-01-10 Posts: 596

Do they have frozen strawberries in your Japan? I can never find any here.

Reply #16 - 2010 June 16, 10:08 am
Blahah Member
From: Cambridge, UK Registered: 2008-07-15 Posts: 715 Website

With the prices bodhisamaya just listed you could very easily eat for far less than your budget each day.

Womacks23 wrote:

Do they have frozen strawberries in your Japan? I can never find any here.

Whose Japan are you in?

Reply #17 - 2010 June 16, 10:09 am
Womacks23 Member
From: 恵比寿 Registered: 2008-01-10 Posts: 596

Blahah wrote:

With the prices bodhisamaya just listed you could very easily eat for far less than your budget each day.

Womacks23 wrote:

Do they have frozen strawberries in your Japan? I can never find any here.

Whose Japan are you in?

Ehime

Reply #18 - 2010 June 17, 11:10 am
quincy Member
Registered: 2008-08-22 Posts: 257

When I lived on my own in California I found it pretty easy to eat on $1-3 a day. I'd imagine in Japan eggs, tofu, rice, and udon are very cheap, so I would learn to cook with those. If you want meat, don't bother with beef (too pricey and unhealthy). If you are American you may need to move out of the mindset of needing meat with every meal. Also, beans by far offer the most nutrition per dollar over here, there should be some cheap beans or lentils over there to buy in bulk. Make sure to by some vegetables, whatever is on sale. And get ready to learn how to cook, you may find out you enjoy it (I ended up switching to a restaurant related major)

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