RTK Screen Saver?

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Reply #26 - 2010 May 31, 8:02 am
bizarrojosh Member
From: Shiga Registered: 2009-08-22 Posts: 219

Ok, So I really don't know anything about how screen savers work. I would really like to try out the matrix screensaver nestor posted with all those kanji. how do I adjust the size, speed and other things? Then how to I add it to my computer to allow it to show up in my options to choose from in the control panel? I downloaded the file but all I'm getting is the matrix feed with random numbers and letters. it looks cool, but it's not the kanji! I'm really a n00b so sorry if this infuriates you guys smile Thank in advance!

Reply #27 - 2010 May 31, 8:15 am
Blahah Member
From: Cambridge, UK Registered: 2008-07-15 Posts: 715 Website

First, download the .scr file and drag it into your C:\Windows folder.
Then go to Start Menu > Control Panel > Appearance and personalisation > Change screen saver. Choose the new screen saver from the drop-down list, then press 'settings' on the right. You can enter all the choices there. If you don't understand what goes where from the descriptions, just try a few combinations and 'preview' them each time so you can choose your favourite settings.

Reply #28 - 2010 May 31, 8:32 am
nest0r Member
Registered: 2007-10-19 Posts: 5236 Website

Or you can drag it to the Windows folder, right-click the desktop, select 'Properties', 'Screen Saver' tab then do the drop-down selection/settings thing.

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Reply #29 - 2010 May 31, 8:34 am
jettyke Member
From: 九州 Registered: 2008-04-07 Posts: 1194

Wow! cool idea, And thanks, Nest0r.

Reply #30 - 2010 May 31, 9:05 am
johnny_s New member
From: England Registered: 2008-07-04 Posts: 4

I had to right click and select 'install' on the .scr file once it was in the windows folder before it would show up in screen saver list.

Great idea btw!

Reply #31 - 2010 May 31, 10:09 am
fugu68 Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2005-11-30 Posts: 115

nest0r wrote:

Or you can drag it to the Windows folder, right-click the desktop, select 'Properties', 'Screen Saver' tab then do the drop-down selection/settings thing.

Hmm...I've pasted the characters into the CharacterSet box - it works great in preview mode, but when I let it kick in as a screensaver, I only get alphanumeric characters, not kanji. Anyone else seeing this problem?

Reply #32 - 2010 May 31, 11:03 am
Blahah Member
From: Cambridge, UK Registered: 2008-07-15 Posts: 715 Website

Perhaps the font you've chosen doesn't have eastern characters. Try setting the font to arial.

Reply #33 - 2010 May 31, 2:52 pm
nest0r Member
Registered: 2007-10-19 Posts: 5236 Website

fugu68 wrote:

nest0r wrote:

Or you can drag it to the Windows folder, right-click the desktop, select 'Properties', 'Screen Saver' tab then do the drop-down selection/settings thing.

Hmm...I've pasted the characters into the CharacterSet box - it works great in preview mode, but when I let it kick in as a screensaver, I only get alphanumeric characters, not kanji. Anyone else seeing this problem?

Nope! That's weird that it works in Preview mode only. Maybe it's the font like Blahah suggested, or maybe somehow the characters got converted to a different encoding (Unicode/Ascii) in the process of copy/pasting into 'characterset', or maybe try a different amount of kanji to see if it's memory-related?

Does it work with kana? Such as: アイウエオカキクケコサシスセソタチツテトナニヌネノマミムメモハヒフヘホヤユヨラリルレロワヲン

Last edited by nest0r (2010 May 31, 2:53 pm)

Reply #34 - 2010 May 31, 3:43 pm
ninetimes Member
Registered: 2008-10-08 Posts: 114

Perhaps it's a system locale issue?  Under region and language, "Current language for non-Unicode programs" or whatever the similar option is for your version of windows.

Just a stab in the dark.

Reply #35 - 2010 May 31, 5:11 pm
bizarrojosh Member
From: Shiga Registered: 2009-08-22 Posts: 219

thanks for the responses, I'll try this when I get home from work!

Reply #36 - 2010 May 31, 6:38 pm
fugu68 Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2005-11-30 Posts: 115

nest0r wrote:

Does it work with kana? Such as: アイウエオカキクケコサシスセソタチツテトナニヌネノマミムメモハヒフヘホヤユヨラリルレロワヲン

Same behaviour - i.e. it works in preview mode, but not when it starts automatically. However, I think it is ignoring the other custom settings too - e.g. multi-colored (which again works in preview).

I'm using Vista, with locale set to English(US).

I'll drop the author an email, to see if he has any ideas.

Reply #37 - 2010 May 31, 7:00 pm
nest0r Member
Registered: 2007-10-19 Posts: 5236 Website

Do you have the latest .net framework thingy?

Vista has always sounded like a real pain to me, I'm still using XP.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta … laylang=en

Edit: Maybe it's something to do with ntuser.dat or something? Maybe that stuff works different with Vista.

Last edited by nest0r (2010 May 31, 7:49 pm)

Reply #38 - 2010 May 31, 8:21 pm
fugu68 Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2005-11-30 Posts: 115

Thanks for the suggestions; the latest .net framework didn't help, unfortunately.

However, I've just tried the previous version:
http://code.google.com/p/thefzjmatrix/d … n=2&q=

That one works as expected, so perhaps there is a bug in the Beta7 version. I'll email the developers with this info.

Reply #39 - 2010 May 31, 8:26 pm
Tobberoth Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2008-08-25 Posts: 3364

You really shouldn't be on Vista, AKA Windows 7 Beta tongue

Reply #40 - 2010 May 31, 8:29 pm
nest0r Member
Registered: 2007-10-19 Posts: 5236 Website

fugu68 wrote:

Thanks for the suggestions; the latest .net framework didn't help, unfortunately.

However, I've just tried the previous version:
http://code.google.com/p/thefzjmatrix/d … n=2&q=

That one works as expected, so perhaps there is a bug in the Beta7 version. I'll email the developers with this info.

Cool. Although, it's kind of funny that you waited this long to try a previous version. ;p

Reply #41 - 2010 June 01, 1:33 pm
jettyke Member
From: 九州 Registered: 2008-04-07 Posts: 1194

fugu68 wrote:

nest0r wrote:

Or you can drag it to the Windows folder, right-click the desktop, select 'Properties', 'Screen Saver' tab then do the drop-down selection/settings thing.

Hmm...I've pasted the characters into the CharacterSet box - it works great in preview mode, but when I let it kick in as a screensaver, I only get alphanumeric characters, not kanji. Anyone else seeing this problem?

Exactly the same problem, Iīm using win7. Changing the font  to Arial doesnīt help either. and old version doenst work too. Ugh ...screw it:D

Last edited by jettyke (2010 June 01, 1:40 pm)

Reply #42 - 2010 June 01, 7:14 pm
nest0r Member
Registered: 2007-10-19 Posts: 5236 Website

For me, the latest version works perfectly, but the older versions crash.

Reply #43 - 2010 June 02, 9:21 am
tomhogers Member
From: Venezuela Registered: 2005-12-22 Posts: 39

Hi guys.

You donīt have to re-invent the wheel to have a fantastic Kanji Screensaver for learners.

Take a look at this program (one of the best ever) originally written by Giles Payne a looooong time ago. Iīve been using (and recomending) it for many years.

Kanji Screen Saver from  http://japan-diary.com/kanji/KanjiScreenSaver.zip , based on Jim Breenīs Kanji info data file.


Enjoy,

Tom

Last edited by tomhogers (2010 June 02, 9:23 am)

Reply #44 - 2010 June 02, 5:14 pm
nest0r Member
Registered: 2007-10-19 Posts: 5236 Website

tomhogers wrote:

Hi guys.

You donīt have to re-invent the wheel to have a fantastic Kanji Screensaver for learners.

Take a look at this program (one of the best ever) originally written by Giles Payne a looooong time ago. Iīve been using (and recomending) it for many years.

Kanji Screen Saver from  http://japan-diary.com/kanji/KanjiScreenSaver.zip , based on Jim Breenīs Kanji info data file.


Enjoy,

Tom

Looks like a nice screensaver for learners who want this sort of thing. (I say that last bit as I just participated in the thread because I liked the idea of kanji as Matrix code, purely cosmetic. ;p)

For anyone who is curious before testing it out (readme), it's a black screen that displays the kanji in white in a white box, customizable by font, and gives you the readings and a meaning. It displays kanji for several seconds, one at a time, and you can display kanji by 'grade', I guess that's a JLPT thing?

Last edited by nest0r (2010 June 02, 5:15 pm)

Reply #45 - 2010 June 02, 5:49 pm
fugu68 Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2005-11-30 Posts: 115

nest0r wrote:

For me, the latest version works perfectly, but the older versions crash.

For me, version 6 crashed just once: the very first time I tried to change the settings. Since then, it was worked perfectly.

Reply #46 - 2010 June 02, 6:28 pm
nest0r Member
Registered: 2007-10-19 Posts: 5236 Website

fugu68 wrote:

nest0r wrote:

For me, the latest version works perfectly, but the older versions crash.

For me, version 6 crashed just once: the very first time I tried to change the settings. Since then, it was worked perfectly.

Oh yeah? Well my version's newer.

Reply #47 - 2010 June 02, 8:56 pm
ocircle Member
Registered: 2009-08-19 Posts: 333 Website

I made one for windows last year for myself.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/2htfby

You have to use Windows Picture Screenshow (also called "Photo) to point it to the directory where all the slices are kept though:

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7147/ciku.jpg

It was made from a png I copied off of wiki and then lazily sliced up and rescaled in photoshop.

One of the games I used to play with it was to blurt out as many readings or words I knew that contained a certain kanji when it flashed on the screen. Since I was going for JLPT1 at the time I didn't have any trouble looking up kanji I didn't know, which was about a quarter of them.


Like in the original wiki picture, everyday kanji are red.

Reply #48 - 2010 June 06, 2:52 am
Koos83 Member
From: The Netherlands Registered: 2009-08-26 Posts: 318

ocircle wrote:

I made one for windows last year for myself.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/2htfby

You have to use Windows Picture Screenshow (also called "Photo) to point it to the directory where all the slices are kept though:

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7147/ciku.jpg

It was made from a png I copied off of wiki and then lazily sliced up and rescaled in photoshop.

One of the games I used to play with it was to blurt out as many readings or words I knew that contained a certain kanji when it flashed on the screen. Since I was going for JLPT1 at the time I didn't have any trouble looking up kanji I didn't know, which was about a quarter of them.


Like in the original wiki picture, everyday kanji are red.

It looks very nice, but when enlarged the quality is really bad. Is there any way I can fix it?

Reply #49 - 2010 June 27, 11:37 pm
shapirog Member
From: New York Registered: 2009-10-08 Posts: 12

Not sure if one of you guys has mentioned this, or if this is what you're looking for, but I have this as my current screensaver: http://www.alienweapon.com/Kotoba.html

Reply #50 - 2011 July 09, 2:49 pm
okeee New member
From: belgium Registered: 2011-07-09 Posts: 1

Ok i tried this program, its very good, but only the kanji appear too short! how can i adjust it so that it stays for several minutes for example?

nest0r wrote:

tomhogers wrote:

Hi guys.

You donīt have to re-invent the wheel to have a fantastic Kanji Screensaver for learners.

Take a look at this program (one of the best ever) originally written by Giles Payne a looooong time ago. Iīve been using (and recomending) it for many years.

Kanji Screen Saver from  http://japan-diary.com/kanji/KanjiScreenSaver.zip , based on Jim Breenīs Kanji info data file.


Enjoy,

Tom

Looks like a nice screensaver for learners who want this sort of thing. (I say that last bit as I just participated in the thread because I liked the idea of kanji as Matrix code, purely cosmetic. ;p)

For anyone who is curious before testing it out (readme), it's a black screen that displays the kanji in white in a white box, customizable by font, and gives you the readings and a meaning. It displays kanji for several seconds, one at a time, and you can display kanji by 'grade', I guess that's a JLPT thing?