Custom throwaway deck

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Reply #1 - 2010 April 14, 7:43 pm
chamcham Member
Registered: 2005-11-11 Posts: 1444

I think it would be great to have a custom deck that you can create that is separate from your RevTK deck.

For example, let's say I'm reading a drama script in Japanese.
And I write down all the kanji that I need to review.

I would like to be able to create a custom deck and pass/fail the cards as I
normally would with my RevTK deck (and the failed cards would show up in
my RevTK failed list).

Basically, what I'm looking to avoid is having to:

1)Erase my entire RevTK deck
2)Add the custom kanji
3)Review the deck
4)Erase the deck
5)Add all the RevTK back again

So I think it's be great if there was an extra deck that we
can use as a scratch pad to add and remove as we please.

Last edited by chamcham (2010 April 14, 8:13 pm)

Thora Member
From: Canada Registered: 2007-02-23 Posts: 1691

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I think you're describing having a separate deck of kanji needed for a particular text and having the stats of that separate deck be reflected in your main RTK deck?

I'm thinking that at your level you'd be thinking in terms of vocab, not individual kanji.  So you'd have a vocab deck (tagged for different texts, if you want to review those separately before reading.)

If you're keeping an RTK deck in order to maintain kanji writing ability, then perhaps you could add a field to collect the vocab that you're acquiring as you read. Eventually your writing reviews could consist of vocab you know on the question side (target kanji omitted) and you write the kanji. The benefits are maintaining writing skills (without spending the time doing vocab or sentence dictation) and seeing the kanji in context.

But perhaps I misunderstood your aim.

kanjiwarrior Member
From: USA Registered: 2009-03-09 Posts: 116 Website

Not sure if this is what you mean, but when I'm reviewing vocab in Anki and I fail a word more than once I click the star button and then later on like when I'm done studying for the day, or the next day before studying, I go to the Tools menu, and choose "Cram" and then select "Marked" and it creates a temporary deck out of all the cards that I've marked. When I'm done reviewing it I click finish and the deck is gone and I'm back to the regular vocab deck.

The intervals are short, a card marked good will return in about 20min, "easy" an hour, though I've never had enough marked cards to see one twice, usually only about 7-8 at a time.

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Reply #4 - 2010 April 15, 5:34 am
wccrawford Member
From: FL US Registered: 2008-03-28 Posts: 1551

kanjiwarrior wrote:

Not sure if this is what you mean,

He means this site, not Anki.  Hence the posting in the 'feedback' forum and referencing RevTK.  wink

However, I agree with Thora.  If you're studying vocab, it should be a vocab deck.  There's not much point in studying just the kanji when what you really want is the vocab.

chamcham Member
Registered: 2005-11-11 Posts: 1444

Hi everyone,

I'm writing a simple java program to search a text file and extract all of the RTK1 kanji
that appear in the file.

Then what I'd like to do is create a custom RevTK deck using those kanji.
I'd rather have a RevTK deck than an Anki deck, since I can fail cards and also
see the stories that other people are making.

Imagine something like the "Reading" tab on RevTK. There is a text box that I copy/paste a list of kanji. I click a button and RevTK makes a temporary deck that I can study right there.

I plan to use this on drama scripts.
So that I can review all the kanji in each episode before I start reading the script.

Of course, I can make vocab/sentence decks along the way as I'm reading.

The plan is kind of like:

Weekdays => review drama scripts
Weekend => review kanji that will appear in the next episode(s)

It might not be like this every week, but that's the general idea.

Another thing I've noticed lately is that some manga/light novels are being released on torrent sites with text files than contain the entire story (i.e. people are typing out the manga/novels and they do proofread checks to ensure quality :-).

So I could do the same thing for those manga/light novels.

Last edited by chamcham (2010 April 15, 10:23 am)

Tobberoth Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2008-08-25 Posts: 3364

You can fail cards in Anki and you can still use this site to look up stories even if you're using Anki...

To me, it feels like people try to make things harder than they are. What's the easiest approach? Doing it in Anki which works fine, or ask for a huge added feature to this site?

chamcham Member
Registered: 2005-11-11 Posts: 1444

Tobberoth wrote:

You can fail cards in Anki and you can still use this site to look up stories even if you're using Anki...

To me, it feels like people try to make things harder than they are. What's the easiest approach? Doing it in Anki which works fine, or ask for a huge added feature to this site?

If you go to the "Reading" tab and copy/paste text and hit a button, it will already highlight all of the RTK kanji in red.

All I'm asking is for an additional option that will take those kanji in red and create a custom RevTK deck (or even just export them as a CSV file so that I can create an anki deck).

Note that RevTK already has a CSV export feature.

So for example, imagine you take a news story from FNN-news.com
Copy/paste the story. Review the kanji deck and find out which kanji you don't
know. Study them.

Then read the whole story (knowing all of the kanji that appear in it).

Tobberoth Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2008-08-25 Posts: 3364

I wouldn't recommend people reading FNN-News before they have even finished RtK1... Finishing RTK1 takes a few months, getting good enough at Japanese to have FNN-News be even close to comprehensible would probably take about a year.

You even said you're writing a java program to find the kanji in a text, just make that program export it to a CSV instead.

chamcham Member
Registered: 2005-11-11 Posts: 1444

I've finished RTK twice and I'm constantly in contact with Japanese people.
So reading FNN isn't too bad for me.

Yes. Just like you said, people who haven't finished RTK shouldn't do this.

CSV export is definitely an option. I'd just have to export my stories on this site (to build a database of my stories) and import them into the Java program. Making the program compatible with RevTK CSV files is certainly doable.

Coincidentally, the new topic that just came up is the same exact idea, but for vocab (instead of individual kanji):

http://forum.koohii.com/viewtopic.php?pid=100666

Reply #10 - 2010 April 15, 12:25 pm
Tobberoth Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2008-08-25 Posts: 3364

chamcham wrote:

I've finished RTK twice and I'm constantly in contact with Japanese people.
So reading FNN isn't too bad for me.

Yes. Just like you said, people who haven't finished RTK shouldn't do this.

If everyone who would use this has already finished RtK.... why would they want a list of kanji they already know from this site?

Reply #11 - 2010 April 15, 12:31 pm
chamcham Member
Registered: 2005-11-11 Posts: 1444

Tobberoth wrote:

chamcham wrote:

I've finished RTK twice and I'm constantly in contact with Japanese people.
So reading FNN isn't too bad for me.

Yes. Just like you said, people who haven't finished RTK shouldn't do this.

If everyone who would use this has already finished RtK.... why would they want a list of kanji they already know from this site?

So that they could review all the kanji that will appear in the script and study the ones that they failed. This makes the reading experience much easier.

This helps me to focus more on vocab/grammar study when reading the script and not be interrupted by kanji I've forgotten and have to re-study.

Last edited by chamcham (2010 April 15, 12:34 pm)

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