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ta12121 Member
From: Canada Registered: 2009-06-02 Posts: 3190

I'm going to text JLPT level one in the summer, officially decided. By then hopefully my level will be really good (already pretty decent reading,understanding skills but output needs more improvement and more journal writing/more writing in Japanese!)

pm215 Member
From: UK Registered: 2008-01-26 Posts: 1354

ta12121 wrote:

I'm going to text JLPT level one in the summer, officially decided. By then hopefully my level will be really good (already pretty decent reading,understanding skills but output needs more improvement and more journal writing/more writing in Japanese!)

...you never did get back to us about your scores in the non-vocab bit of that JLPT2 test you took...

thurd Member
From: Poland Registered: 2009-04-07 Posts: 756

Congratulations to all who passed and to those who didn't, 頑張って next time.

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Evil_Dragon Member
From: Germany Registered: 2008-08-21 Posts: 683

rich_f wrote:

55% to pass N1 (100/180), 50% to pass N2 (90/180), and 52.8% to pass N3 (95/180), apparently, and you only need to get 19/60 right per section.

55%? Seriously? I read about how the new JLPT was going to be harder, but.. 55%?

mezbup Member
From: sausage lip Registered: 2008-09-18 Posts: 1681 Website

Evil_Dragon wrote:

rich_f wrote:

55% to pass N1 (100/180), 50% to pass N2 (90/180), and 52.8% to pass N3 (95/180), apparently, and you only need to get 19/60 right per section.

55%? Seriously? I read about how the new JLPT was going to be harder, but.. 55%?

I think they made the content of the test slightly harder but lowered the pass-rate to even the difficulty out to the same as before.

caivano Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2010-03-14 Posts: 705

Really doesn't make sense to me having a 50% pass rate when 25% is a given.. even if they are doing some jiggery pokery with the scores.

Seeing as there's no real benefit in having an N2 cert I think I'm going to aim for passing the old JLPT2 in December using a previous test, sat in the same way as the real one, which I will score by the old system. Plus I will get the result much faster and it will be cheaper ^^

mezbup Member
From: sausage lip Registered: 2008-09-18 Posts: 1681 Website

caivano wrote:

Really doesn't make sense to me having a 50% pass rate when 25% is a given.. even if they are doing some jiggery pokery with the scores.

Seeing as there's no real benefit in having an N2 cert I think I'm going to aim for passing the old JLPT2 in December using a previous test, sat in the same way as the real one, which I will score by the old system. Plus I will get the result much faster and it will be cheaper ^^

N2 cert does have value. It's N3 and below that don't really. I got 50% on JLPT2 last december which wasn't a pass but the N2 test this July was harder than the JLPT2 last december I thought. Besides... there's no real benefit doing an old test, scoring it yourself and getting nothing real out of it. Though it may be entertaining and beneficial to one's learning.

caivano Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2010-03-14 Posts: 705

mezbup wrote:

Besides... there's no real benefit doing an old test, scoring it yourself and getting nothing real out of it. Though it may be entertaining and beneficial to one's learning.

That's a bit of a contradiction isn't it.... I'll be doing it for motivation, and I feel more motivated by the old test than the new one. I sat the real 3 (and N3) and it's not like it was harder doing the actual exam than the timed practices I did at home, I just had to pay the fee, go to the test centre and wait ages for the result (which was pretty much the same as the practice tests)

As for the cert, I wouldn't be using it for anything, so for me it doesn't matter. I'll probably do the N1 in the summer in case I do need a JLPT for something in the future.

chochajin Member
From: Japan Registered: 2008-07-13 Posts: 520 Website

Sorry, quick but important question:
Am filling out the JLPT application (in Japan) right now and have no clue about one thing: my name!
They do not write anywhere if you're supposed to write your first name first and then your last name or the other way round. They only say "exactly as it's written in your passport" - but in my passport my last name and first+middle names are spit up, so the order doesn't matter, but on my gaijin card (as it's a Japanese document) my last name comes first.
The example in the application thingie has a Chinese name, so I can't figure out what the last name and the first name is sad

Also, about the "region code" - is that about where your home country is or where you live now? If you write your address anyways, I don't see why it should be where you live right now...
Well the sample has this Chinese guy and although he has a Japanese address his region code is the one for China, so I guess I have to not use Japan, but Germany in my case?!?

Anybody can help?? O_O; .....

Last edited by chochajin (2010 September 12, 7:26 am)

ta12121 Member
From: Canada Registered: 2009-06-02 Posts: 3190

pm215 wrote:

ta12121 wrote:

I'm going to text JLPT level one in the summer, officially decided. By then hopefully my level will be really good (already pretty decent reading,understanding skills but output needs more improvement and more journal writing/more writing in Japanese!)

...you never did get back to us about your scores in the non-vocab bit of that JLPT2 test you took...

oh crap I totally forgot about that one. I did do this though, well the one from this site(recently) http://www.jlpt.jp/index.html

chochajin Member
From: Japan Registered: 2008-07-13 Posts: 520 Website

To answer my own question. I called them and "region code" is your nationality and your first name should be written first if that how it's usually done in your home country smile

chochajin Member
From: Japan Registered: 2008-07-13 Posts: 520 Website

Another question. I bought two N2 books with mock tests and I can't figure out how to score them correctly.
There are 75 questions for the 105min. part (kanji/vocab/grammar/reading).
42 questions for section 1 (kanji/vocab/grammar) which are 60 points (according to the official website).
21 questions for reading (60 points)

How do I get my 60 points from 42 or 21 questions? I don't get it.
Of course I could calculate the percentage, but I want also to know how many points I got.

Anybody understand what I'm saying and can help me?

amagiri Member
From: Belgium Registered: 2009-09-20 Posts: 22

Just out of curiosity... did anyone ever register for the JLPT in Japan from outside the country?

Since I regularly visit Tokyo, I thought it might be nice to go in July (too bad of the heat though) and take the test there.  The thing is though that it would be quite expensive to visit Japan a few months before with the sole purpose of registering.

Any thoughts/ideas?

julianjalapeno Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2010-09-13 Posts: 128

chochajin wrote:

Another question. I bought two N2 books with mock tests and I can't figure out how to score them correctly.
There are 75 questions for the 105min. part (kanji/vocab/grammar/reading).
42 questions for section 1 (kanji/vocab/grammar) which are 60 points (according to the official website).
21 questions for reading (60 points)

How do I get my 60 points from 42 or 21 questions? I don't get it.
Of course I could calculate the percentage, but I want also to know how many points I got.

Anybody understand what I'm saying and can help me?

The problem is you can`t. The new scoring format has points being based on how well everyone does on each question so its impossible to calculate on your own. The best you can do is find the percentage.

ocircle Member
Registered: 2009-08-19 Posts: 333 Website

in the old JLPT some questions were worth 2 points and some questions were worth 1 point. Maybe the new JLPT also has some questions that weigh more heavily.

There was on partial credit for close guesses so I would imagine you either get all two points or no points for questions that are worth 2 points. (Partial credit? Ha! That's so unjapanese.)

Anna B Member
From: Hawaii Registered: 2010-06-27 Posts: 71

amagiri wrote:

Just out of curiosity... did anyone ever register for the JLPT in Japan from outside the country?

Since I regularly visit Tokyo, I thought it might be nice to go in July (too bad of the heat though) and take the test there.  The thing is though that it would be quite expensive to visit Japan a few months before with the sole purpose of registering.

Any thoughts/ideas?

When I registered online for the December 2010 test in the US, it looked to me as if you could register to take the test anywhere in the world. Unfortunately, the website's still down and I can't verify this. However, I was thinking of doing the same thing--combining the next test with a trip to Japan--so I made a mental note of it at the time. But, yeah, July or December? Not high on my list of Months I'd Like to Visit Japan.

Reply #192 - 2010 October 02, 11:10 pm
mygbmygb Member
Registered: 2009-05-26 Posts: 45

Womacks23 wrote:

There wasn't anything that surprised me because I had seen years worth of practice tests. It was just a matter of trying to figure out readings for kanji that got me. しゅ or しゅう kind of questions.

And the damn reading sections. On the long ones I just sat there staring at the page....

This is every JLPT ever given if you're looking for practice tests.
http://jlpt.biz/datumcenter/jlpt/PDF/

these are the actual test given? , so this 2009 is the exact one you were tested on?

I also noticed on the 2009 level 1 jlpt test pdf from here http://jlpt.mobi/datumcenter/jlpt/PDF/

on the 聴解 section, under the all the questions it has the 聴解スクリプト: 
i am just wondering since this is a listening section, this script wouldn't be on the actual test?

Last edited by mygbmygb (2010 October 02, 11:45 pm)

Reply #193 - 2010 October 03, 2:45 am
pm215 Member
From: UK Registered: 2008-01-26 Posts: 1354

mygbmygb wrote:

I also noticed on the 2009 level 1 jlpt test pdf from here http://jlpt.mobi/datumcenter/jlpt/PDF/

on the 聴解 section, under the all the questions it has the 聴解スクリプト: 
i am just wondering since this is a listening section, this script wouldn't be on the actual test?

Nope, you get played the audio and that's it. It also looks to me as if those PDFs are retyped versions, not scans -- I hope their OCR/checking is good. This site is a bit tricky to navigate because it's in Chinese, and it's not as complete, but for at least some years they have the whole set of papers as scans of the originals plus mp3s of the audio for the listening paper.

Reply #194 - 2010 October 12, 11:52 pm
dusmar84 Member
From: Tokyo Japan Registered: 2009-11-09 Posts: 177

This might be a stupid question but by studying the jlpt vocab lists on sites like kanjiaday.com for example, am I covering all of the vocab I will encounter on the jlpt?

Reply #195 - 2010 October 13, 12:08 am
caivano Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2010-03-14 Posts: 705

nah, there are no official vocab list since the N levels started. It's a good start though.

Even when then did release the lists something like 20% could be outside of them.

Reply #196 - 2010 October 18, 3:52 am
amagiri Member
From: Belgium Registered: 2009-09-20 Posts: 22

Anyone know where I can find the Unicom JLPT books for JLPT3 (old level) or the JLPTN4?

I don't seem to be able to find them in Kinokuniya in Tokyo?

gyuujuice Member
From: USA Registered: 2008-09-24 Posts: 828

I'm sorry to bring this back from the grave but is there a list of kanji in the JLPT 2 test organised/with Heisig numbers? I want to go review them.
--Thanks

Katsuo M.O.D.
From: Tokyo Registered: 2007-02-06 Posts: 887 Website

gyuujuice wrote:

is there a list of kanji in the JLPT 2 test organised/with Heisig numbers?

This spreadsheet includes kanji lists for levels 1 to 4 from the old JLPT specification book (they aren't releasing specs for the new test).

Reply #199 - 2010 November 02, 2:14 pm
gyuujuice Member
From: USA Registered: 2008-09-24 Posts: 828

Katsuo, Thanks! This is what I was looking for!

(Yeah, but it should be *around* the same level. *crosses finger*)

gyuujuice Member
From: USA Registered: 2008-09-24 Posts: 828

Level    Total score   
Language Knowledge
(Vocabulary/Grammar)    Reading    Listening
Range of scores    Overall pass marks    Range of scores    Sectional pass marks    Range of scores    Sectional pass marks    Range of scores    Sectional pass marks

N2    0~180
points    90 points    0~60 points    19 points    0~60 points    19 points    0~60 points    19 points


(http://www.jlpt.jp/e/faq/index.html)

On this chart it states that there are 3 sections each worth 60 points with a total of 180 points. Yet one only needs 90 points total and at least 19 being in each. Am I reading this correctly? If the pass rate is 50% then, did they make it easier?

Also, can someone give me advice for the listening section. How do you mark off answers? I was thinking of sitting in front so I could hear it better.