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Reply #1 - 2010 April 05, 5:12 pm
Dairwolf Member
From: Germany Registered: 2008-04-18 Posts: 19

I was wondering what other particles も can be used after. I know that e.g. 日本でも (also in Japan) or 先生とも (also with the teacher) make sense, but e.g. 食べたばかりも doesn´t seem to make sense to me. Does somebody have a complete list that has all the possible combinations of particel + も?

Reply #2 - 2010 April 05, 5:23 pm
Tobberoth Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2008-08-25 Posts: 3364

ばかり isn't a particle, so your example doesn't make much sense. Remember that も can be used in an intensifying sense as well, like in "10分も待っていた" meaning "I waited AS LONG AS 10 minutes".

Reply #3 - 2010 April 05, 5:26 pm
yudantaiteki Member
Registered: 2009-10-03 Posts: 3619

ばかり actually is usually classified as a particle (the Koujien labels it a 助詞, for instance), and in fact "ばかりも" does appear on Google.

I believe that も can go after any particle except for は, and the sentence final particles.  However, がも and をも are both very limited in use in modern Japanese.

Last edited by yudantaiteki (2010 April 05, 5:27 pm)

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Reply #4 - 2010 April 05, 7:46 pm
howtwosavealif3 Member
From: USA Registered: 2008-02-09 Posts: 889 Website

well there's をも

Reply #5 - 2010 April 05, 8:02 pm
yudantaiteki Member
Registered: 2009-10-03 Posts: 3619

What about it をも?  As I said, it's not used very often in modern Japanese, and certainly is not worth worrying about for someone that's asking basic questions.

Last edited by yudantaiteki (2010 April 05, 8:11 pm)

Reply #6 - 2010 April 06, 6:30 am
yukamina Member
From: Canada Registered: 2006-01-09 Posts: 761

Actually, I see をも relatively often. I could do with an explanation...

Reply #7 - 2010 April 06, 6:58 am
Tobberoth Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2008-08-25 Posts: 3364

I don't know if I've ever seen をも, would appreciate some example sentences if you have any.

Reply #8 - 2010 April 06, 7:01 am
liosama Member
From: sydney Registered: 2008-03-02 Posts: 896

I hear it in Korean a lot, when girls are scared & whining in general

Reply #9 - 2010 April 06, 7:34 am
yukamina Member
From: Canada Registered: 2006-01-09 Posts: 761

I've possibly been misreading をも where the text had を + a word starting with も. I thought I saw をも in Harry Potter 2 and Haruhi 1, but I can't find anything now.
I did find this sentence in an online story/novel,

浮かぶ疑問のどれをも口にすることのできないまま。

Reply #10 - 2010 April 06, 7:42 am
Jarvik7 Member
From: 名古屋 Registered: 2007-03-05 Posts: 3946

I'm too lazy to read this, but here:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia: … 6;て

Reply #11 - 2010 April 06, 7:48 am
Evil_Dragon Member
From: Germany Registered: 2008-08-21 Posts: 683

我々は、混迷の時代をくぐりぬけ、ついに新世紀の扉を開けたのです!!思えば、前世紀の二度にわたる世界大戦…そして、自らをも滅ぼす核の脅威。東西の冷戦。壁崩壊後の、相次ぐ地域紛争。そう、数々の脅威が我々を襲いました。
20th Century Boys, first chapter.


I remembered this one because I was utterly surprised when I first read it. "Wait a minute, they always told us you can't use も after は、が、を!" Sounds pretty formal from what I've read so far.

Reply #12 - 2010 April 06, 8:43 am
yudantaiteki Member
Registered: 2009-10-03 Posts: 3619

Yeah, it can be used for emphasis but it's rather formal.  If you look on google news you can see a number of examples.

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