decamer0n wrote:

now, if i had to actually correct the auto-filled data for lots of the compounds, that would get annoying.  i haven't yet been using anki long enough to judge this, but is anki's current auto-filling that innacurate?

Yes!

decamer0n wrote:

i guess what i meant when i asked if i was missing something important is exactly that.  is the current program very innacurate during bulk usage?  is there some further functionality that the change of dictionaries would bring with them?  are many people entering kanji without an IME?  etc.

I usually use a lot of example sentences, because I noticed that they help a lot in learning new structures and if you get like three possibilities for every fourth word it gets quickly annoying to hand-edit that all the time.

decamer0n wrote:

of course 50mb isn't big compared to software and storage options these days, but like i said, it is significant in that it represents more than a 200% increase over the current size of the application itself.

C'mon, do you really care if the most helpful learning tool which you are using every day takes 50MB more on your 200GB hard disk?

Kurosawa wrote:

I usually use a lot of example sentences, because I noticed that they help a lot in learning new structures and if you get like three possibilities for every fourth word it gets quickly annoying to hand-edit that all the time.

ok, that's exactly why i asked my question, rather than just assuming people were being absurdly frugal with their time.  that makes a lot of sense then.  and certainly justifies a big change in the application.

actually, i don't have 200gb.  i only have 4gb on my hard drive, in total.  please try to have a little pity on me.  haha.  but actually, that isn't at all why i said something about the extra 50mb.  as i said in my original post, i'm just a big fan of super-svelt, portable applications.  i think they are sexy.

Last edited by decamer0n (2007 September 04, 8:19 am)

i definitely wouldn't expect the application development to need to cater to the few people like me who still have 4gb hard drives.  so don't take me the wrong way...


however, taking the issue in a different direction:

skylarth wrote:

resolve? what do you think.. would it be a ton more work to make the pronunciation part more modular? if not, i think thats the way to go..

skylarth really struck at an excellent point about some users not needing japanese dictionaries, or maybe desiring chinese dictionaries instead, or whatever. 

it might end up being more trouble than it's worth,
but modularity is pretty damn sexy.

Kurosawa wrote:

So keeping the dictionary seperate was his plan anyway

sweet. because i think that the pronunciation is what really makes anki stand out in my mind within the SRSs out there, so it seems that this could carry over to other fields, like pronunciation dictionaries for languages where reading is easy but that doesnt mean you can say what you just read out loud. (english anyone?.. for people studying engish with anki you could have it put in phonetic symbols or something)

Anki 0.3.6 is out.

    * Export support
    * Tagging input on importing
    * Scroll to the end of the card when displaying answer
    * Remember import/save/load/export/picture/audio location
    * Sort tags in card editor and completion dialogs
    * Save to a tmp file then rename (fixes EOF errors if save is interrupted)
    * Delete utility windows on close
    * Move, don't copy backup files (faster)
    * Various media-dir fixes
    * Fix mnemosyne importing
    * Autosave on add support
    * Change kanjistats toolbar button to card stats
    * Don't use custom colours in editing, only quizzing
    * Don't force the user to name a file when creating it
    * Don't ask if the add cards window should be closed twice
    * Check if a file exists after appending an extension
    * Open default file with .anki not .fc
    * Fix font properties bug
    * Various other bug fixes

http://repose.cx/anki/download/index.html

Ok, so I've just finished putting in some sentences and I have to say that having to delete all the multiple meanings for the kanji is really starting to bore me.  Especially as the one I want nearly always appears first in the list.  I'm guessing this is because if you're using the kanji in a compound, then the whole compound is used to determine reading.
Anyways,  while doing one of my many 'select - delete' motions, I thought it would be much easier if only the first reading of a kanji's list showed up, but with a highlighted background.  Then, as you read through to check the readings, if one is wrong, you click on the reading and a list pops up with the alternatives from which you can select.  Exactly like the IME I guess *blush*.  I have no ideas about programming so perhaps that's a real pain to do...  Just throwing it out there though...

It guessed based on your "target language". If the target language was Japanese, the expression should have been Japanese too.

What is the structure of your deck now? If Anki made a wrong guess, send me your deck and I'll fix it manually for you.

Looks like the server's down.  Can't sync or connect to anki.repose.cx or the bug tracker.

Before I do anything, what would happen in the following situation? I've added cards to my deck using the desktop version and didn't sync with the server afterwards. If I add cards using the online facility now, will there be problems when I go home and sync? i.e. more generally, what does the syncing algorithm do if both the server copy and the local copy have been changed?

You can make changes on both sides and sync, and everything should work. The deck-wide statistics (number of cards answered correctly), deck models and so on will be based on whatever deck was modified latest (it won't add the statistics together), but each card and fact has its own modification time and changes will be synced in whatever direction was modified last. Added and deleted cards will be handled properly too, so you can add/edit/test and delete cards on both sides an expect it to work. Note if you review the same card on both sides, the more recent review will take precedence.

resolve, i think i have a bug to report. today i added about 70 new cards to my anki deck and i dont think the chart for new cards is working anymore.. like it shows when i added stuff in the past, but not today's. (its been a few days since have added new sentences, so i cant say if this is before or after i did the last upgrade... ) anyways its anki on os x.

does anyone else have the same bug?

its not really important... but there it is.

skylarth: are you still having problems? it seems fine here.

thegeezer3: thanks for the feedback. epwing viewer integration is a little outside the scope of anki - a tool like stardict would be a better solution. also note the plugin 'epwing.py' in the plugin section of the wiki, which lets you send words to an external dictionary. i use that to look things up when i need to.

note that rikaichan (the 'hover to get definition' tool for firefox) also has an option to save things to a file. that way whenever you hover over a new interesting word, you press a key and the word and definition is appended to the file of your choice. you can then process the file later and add everything to anki. at one point in the future i might hack on the sourcecode to make it include the url and full sentence for context too.

as for recursive searching, again this is a defect of your dictionary software, and not really something that belongs in anki. the epwing viewer i use has forward and back controls so i can return to previous searches after i've finished looking up another word.

as for finding time for updates, my studying has suffered somewhat in the last few months as i've been so busy with anki. things are pretty stable now and so i've been trying to strike a balance between programming and my own study again. i do have a full time job and do need to sleep too, like everyone else :-)