Anki?

Yufina Member

From: Finland Registered: 2007-06-18 Posts: 49

"Editi deck" confusing me, when I try to get rid of "import: duplicate" cards. Its still there though I deleted it. And its show cards that dont have duplicate.

Megaqwerty Member

Registered: 2007-04-05 Posts: 318

In 0.2.8, I would have several cards with the same kanji, but use different readings appearing on the question side to differentiate between them.

In 0.3.0, this functionality appears to have been removed, as readings are implemented in a different manner.

For example, in 0.2.8:
方: (ほう)direction, side, whatever
方(かた):person, way of doing, whatever

While using the parenthesis currently works, it doesn't trigger okurigana like it did in earlier versions and thus is quite an eyesore. Not exactly a major problem, as it does function, just not as sexily as it did post-upgrade.

The main issue is that this has created a bunch of cards being read as duplicates despite being wholly different cards, but I'm manually fixing this as they come up.

Last edited by Megaqwerty (2007 August 09, 5:06 pm)

dilandau23 Member

From: Japan Registered: 2006-09-13 Posts: 330

resolve wrote:
Wouldn't a note in the status area of the importing dialog be enough?

Yes, I think that would be enough, my real concern is just for the English students to whom I have recommended Anki. I am not sure if they are using the program but many of them, lets just say, "lack computer skills". I do know one of my JTEs started using it and he even had trouble with the idea of a "card" on a computer screen. I am sure you have encountered something like this as well. Also, I am just curious, do you create the duplicates by default on an import of an Anki file as well? What about when the user updates from older version to 0.3? I didn't experience either of these so I wasn't sure. If you did I could see people getting confused there as well.

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JimmySeal Member

From: Kyoto Registered: 2006-03-28 Posts: 2279

Need advice ASAP.

Anyone reviewing on more than one computer or online who hasn't upgraded yet: don't upgrade until we're told how to get around this. Could cause a pretty big mess.

Upgraded Anki on my computer after having reviewed online for a day and a half (I was away from home). It upgraded my local deck (with seemingly no problems, thanks for that), BUT it treated the deck as newly modified during synchronization, undoing all the progress I'd made since I left home.

Now I'm on a PC on which I last used Anki an even longer time ago and am afraid to open Anki because it would seem that it would knock me even further back. Can you advise about what to do?

Last edited by JimmySeal (2007 August 09, 9:07 pm)

resolve Member

From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

JimmySeal: move your local .fc files to a different location so that when Anki starts up, it won't find them. Then start up Anki, and instead of reading those files, create a new deck, set the 'synchronisation name' in the deck properties to one of your old decks, and sync. It'll pull all the changes from the server instead. Sorry that you lost some progress. I should have anticipated something like that happening.

dilandau23: I have about 10 of my students using Anki to study English as well, so I'm definitely concerned about making it as simple as possible too. However, all of my students are studying using forward and reverse cards, so the upgrade should have gone smoothly for them. Were you recommending to your English students that they disable the 'add reverse entry' item? I assumed any user who disables that option knows enough to account for it in the upgrade :-)

megaqwerty: Just disable 'unique' for the 'Expression' field, and add '%(Reading)s' into the question format. Then the reading will be displayed with the question. But I think you're better off adding those two kanji in two difference sentences with the different reading, and trying to guess the reading based on the context as part of the answer instead :-)

resolve Member

From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

If you ever need to reach me in a hurry or just want to chat about Anki, you can find me at irc.freenode.org #nihongo

Aikiboy Member

From: Kitakyushu Registered: 2006-12-09 Posts: 127 Website

Hi Resolve, way to go on the new release and sorry about that late e-mail reply.

Auto update seemed to go smoothly and I even reviewed on the new ketai with no problems. But today, for some reason, I went on line and there was no deck. Anki asked me to create a new deck, so I did and I found the empty old deck, an empty my deck and the deck I usually use. I tried to load that, but it shows me nothing when I try to study.

I want to upload the deck from my pc, but can only find add cards on-line. What to do, what to do...

Yoroshiku!

resolve Member

From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

Hi Aikiboy,

I'm not sure I understand. I just went into the web interface and it started asking me questions. I sent my cell phone an email from your account and I was able to see the questions there too. Am I missing something?

(There's no need for an 'upload deck' anymore - to add a new deck, you just change the 'sync name' on your local client and then sync, and it'll offer to create a new deck on the server side)

resolve Member

From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

Note also you might want to check out the structure of the 'heisig' sample deck. It includes numeric sorting since the number is stored as a separate element.

resolve Member

From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

0.3.1's out.

Changes in 0.3.1

* Add/delete tags in batch in the editor
* Reset progress & make card due in the editor
* Don't close edit dialog on RET
* Fix copy & paste from main window on win32
* Sort by reverse
* Reorganise editor
* When on the finished screen, show the card as soon as it's ready
* Warn about sync failures better
* Fix an error occurring on exit on win32
* Show suspended/spaced in status bar and deck finished
* Update pending# more regularly
* Fixed an import/syncing bug
* Add some JP translations
* Allow empty fields in importing
* Don't include suspended cards in earliest time

http://repose.cx/anki/download/index.html

Aikiboy Member

From: Kitakyushu Registered: 2006-12-09 Posts: 127 Website

Hi Resolve,

I checked on-line after reading your posts but still nothing was showing up for me.(Maybe my pc got weird somehow?) I decided to delete my on-line deck and started anki. It auto-updated and I tried to synch and was instructed to create a new deck, which I did, and up went the cards. Yet, still nothing on the study screen. The deck is there, though, and the list. The study page is blank with the name of my deck in the top left side "studying tango". I tried my keitai and it now works, so that's a good thing. 2 out of 3 ain't bad, as Meatloaf says.

I did notice your Heisig sample decks. Much more info packed in yours. Is there anyway to use that deck keeping my schedules? Probably not, but thought I'd ask anyway.

Thanks for the help, as always!

FYI, thrilled with the new keitai, able to view word and excel study files(the RTK1 pdf was too big to mail to myself, but hoping I can load it when I get a micro sd card.) and with anki access it means I can leave my 17" widescreen heavy as a horse notebook home. Yeah me!

resolve Member

From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

Perhaps it's a browser bug. What browser are you using? Can you try with a different browser?

If you email me your deck I can convert your progress to the Heisig deck with a bit of magic scripting. You'll lose the elements though, since the Heisig deck only contains the actual kanji.

And congrats on the cellphone! I got a 1yen cellphone when I first came to Japan 3 1/2 years ago, and last year when I got a new cellphone it was a big difference!

Last edited by resolve (2007 August 10, 10:16 am)

Aikiboy Member

From: Kitakyushu Registered: 2006-12-09 Posts: 127 Website

Hi Resolve, seems the browser is the problem, but don't ask me why. Before the upgrade it was fine. I tried with Firefox and everything is cool. I recall seeing a place to check internet explorer's files, but alas, can't find it when I need it. Might re-install and see if that helps.

Think I'll take you up on scripting my deck. Losing the primitives I added is sad though. That took some time to figure out. Will e-mail a little later, though.

I just wanted to upgrade my current phone with softbank, but they wanted to charge me 45,000 yen, the pirates! So, for 1 yen I joined AU and got the slick W54T. I took a leap because there is NO English menu. Now I'm forced to study! But I've got the entire Heisig spreadsheet, a quicker kanji/Heisig keyword list, and a keyword only list in my pocket at all times. And of course Anki!

Thanks!

resolve Member

From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

Well, I can just import the primitives separately I guess.

If it's not displaying on internet explorer, I guess there's a bug in the HTML. What version of IE?

Aikiboy Member

From: Kitakyushu Registered: 2006-12-09 Posts: 127 Website

Hi Resolve, re-installed I.E and still no go. Weird.

JimmySeal Member

From: Kyoto Registered: 2006-03-28 Posts: 2279

I've had the same problem in IE on two different PCs. This one is version 7.0.5730.11, and the review page loads but doesn't show any cards (when there are some).

There also seems to be a problem with the remaining: counter. It seems to be counting backwards from 0 and going into negative numbers. Will take a closer look at it later today.

resolve Member

From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

Looks like IE doesn't like the way I apply CSS styles dynamically. Working on it..

Edit: I hate IE

Edit2: Okay, you're limited to a fixed width font for now on IE. To fix it properly I need to manually parse the CSS and call addRule() for each line, which is a pain. I'll get around to it soon.

Last edited by resolve (2007 August 10, 10:54 pm)

johnzep Member

From: moriya, ibaraki Registered: 2006-05-14 Posts: 373

Any plans to add a tag filter to the main window/review page?

for example, if my deck has "production" and "recognition" tagged cards but during a study session, I just wanted to work on "production", it would be cool to be able to filter by tag and have anki only review "production" tagged cards.

sorry for new feature requests after the end of beta ^__^

I guess I could suspend all the types of cards I don't want to review but then I'd have to reactivate them later, which seems like a bit of trouble (*^_^*)

resolve Member

From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

I'm wary of giving the user too much rope to tie themselves with. Putting single category choices on the main screen seems to be going down the slippery slope of micromanagement - something that the Leitner system encourages and I'd like to avoid. Why don't you just put 'production' in the high priority list? Then you will see all production cards before any recognition cards.

(and card spacing can be used to accomplish similar things: put the card spacing at a week and none of the recognition cards will appear until a week after you've reviewed the corresponding production card)

Last edited by resolve (2007 August 10, 11:10 pm)

johnzep Member

From: moriya, ibaraki Registered: 2006-05-14 Posts: 373

Maybe it's just me, but as a user, when I think "what would tags be used for in a flashcard program?", the first thing I think of would be "to have the program show me cards with a particular tag now".

the priority list sounds useful too though, I think I'll use it group my production and recognition cards separately ^_^

Also, I just checked the Anki study online webpage in IE7 (shudder) and it looked good.

johnzep Member

From: moriya, ibaraki Registered: 2006-05-14 Posts: 373

But ya, you're right about micromanaging the decks. Let the spaced repetition algorithm do the work. And if a card is due, I should just review it ^_^

Transtic Member

Registered: 2007-07-29 Posts: 201

resolve wrote:
Please send me your deck and I'll look at the reversed cards.

Don't worry, I see you have a lot of things to do and don't want to waste your time just because of 7 cards.

By the way, correct me if I'm wrong:
- the "Model" (i.e. Japanese, Heisig, English, etc) is a property of the decks
- the "Card model" is a property of each card pertaining to a certain deck
I think it would be adviceable to change the name of 1 of those properties in the sake of clearness.

And as for "Card model", it would be useful to be able to add a couple of simple features, as:
- changing the "Card model" of a card or group of cards (for example, turning a group of "recognition" cards" into "production" cards and vice versa)
- copying a card from a "Card model" as another "Card model" (for example, take a deck with "Production" cards only and copy some or all the cards as "Recognition" ,in order to have both "Production" AND a "Recognition" copy of each one

I thought that I could do that from the Edit Deck window, but the program doesn't allow me to change or edit the "Production" and "Recognition" tags.

Besides, it may be better not to show the "Model" and "Card model" as tags on the "Edit Deck" window (for example, "Japanese" and "Production" tags), but as separate properties. And when adding or deleting tags, it would be more efficient chosing them
from a dropdown menu.

Oops, it seems I ended up bothering you with a lot of requests... sorry. And I'm still learning to use this new Anki, so I may have made same mistakes, if that is the case, please correct me.

johnzep wrote:
Any plans to add a tag filter to the main window/review page?

for example, if my deck has "production" and "recognition" tagged cards but during a study session, I just wanted to work on "production", it would be cool to be able to filter by tag and have anki only review "production" tagged cards.

sorry for new feature requests after the end of beta ^__^

I guess I could suspend all the types of cards I don't want to review but then I'd have to reactivate them later, which seems like a bit of trouble (*^_^*)

Or you could go to Edit -> Deck properties -> Priorities & Postponing -> Postponing
and add the "Recognition", "Production" or any other tag you want to suspend for a while.

Another option would be going to Edit -> Model Properties -> Cards
and disabling the type of cards you don't want to review.

resolve Member

From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

Disabling cards only affects which cards will be generated when you add new material. That should be made clearer.

Thanks for your suggestions. Changing the card model of a card seems like it could cause more trouble than it fixes: if you have the wrong models then importing isn't working properly, and it could end up with the user having two 'production' cards which would be confusing.

A 'drop down' menu for adding cards will be implemented in the future.

Last edited by resolve (2007 August 11, 12:32 am)

Yufina Member

From: Finland Registered: 2007-06-18 Posts: 49

What a fool I was! I didin't notice tags.

But now I undestand how new edit deck feature works .

EDIT: When I add cards and write kanji. It automatically enter all kanjis reading. But is there any possible that I can get back the old automatic system? Because now i need nearly always edite the reading.

Last edited by Yufina (2007 August 11, 5:53 am)

resolve Member

From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

The old system just chose the first entry, which was not always correct. For example,

綺麗な人 became きれいなにん

I will change to a different conversion system in the future which is more reliable.

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