The templates define the deck structure, not the way cards will be imported in. The only relation is that the importing code checks to see if it's a Japanese model to try and determine which order the fields should be canonicalized into.

Which makes perfect sense when you have two cards, one the reverse of the other, and want to represent them consistently. When you only have a one-sided deck, it makes less sense. I'll stop it from reordering fields in that case and release beta10 tonight.

Thanks for repeatedly testing it!

kurojohn: sorry, could you confirm where that happened? Did it jump to that number on an 0.3.0 beta - if so, which? Or did it happen on 0.2.8? There was a bug in the early betas where new cards were scheduled based on the time they were added instead of the time since the first review - but that should be fixed in the later betas.

I've noticed this happen a few times as well.  I've seen cards that were scheduled way ahead of all the rest, before they should be able to be scheduled that far.  Until today, my farthest scheduled cards were scheduled for about 100 days, and about an hour ago I reviewed a card and upon looking at my Edit Deck dialog, it is scheduled to reappear in 1.9 years.  This is in 0.2.8, but I last reviewed this card on the lightweight web interface.

Last edited by JimmySeal (2007 August 07, 9:22 am)

Beta 10 (final)

Unless any last minute bugs come up, I will release this beta as 0.3.0 in a
few hours. Some of the importing code has been changed - please double-check
that your deck upgrades smoothly.

I know there are a number of user interface points which need addressing - I
will fix them in an early 0.3.x release.

**IMPORTANT**

If you have started to use the betas to study, please read this, or you could
lose some progress. People who haven't actually studied with the betas don't
need to worry.

When 0.3.0 is released, you must delete your server deck before starting 0.3.0
if autosync is on.

When I release 0.3.0, I will replace the 0.2.8 syncing server with the new
syncing server, and update all the decks. All of the cards will have their
modification time set to this time. If you then load up an .anki file you've
been using with the beta and autosync is on, syncing will see that the server
side is newer and will send all the cards on the server to you. This means you
will lose any progress you've made since the last sync.

Also note that the upgrade process needs to know your previously selected
'target language', in order to decide whether your deck should be 'Japanese'
or 'English'.

For people who haven't tried the beta yet:

Copy the $HOME/.anki directory to $HOME/.ankidev

For people who've tried the beta previous:

Copy $HOME/.anki/config.db to $HOME/.ankidev

$HOME on windows is in "Documents and Settings" for your user.

If you encounter any problems, please let me know quickly!

Test server: http://repose.ath.cx:5001/study
Win: http://repose.cx/dump/anki-0.3.0-beta10.zip
Mac: http://repose.cx/dump/Anki.dmg
Linux: http://repose.cx/dump/beta10.tgz

Okay, 0.3.0 is finally released! If you've previously used a beta, please see the important note in my previous message.

Screenshots: http://repose.cx/anki/shots.html
Download: http://repose.cx/anki/download/index.html

Thanks for the report - it was a packaging bug affecting Linux. Fixed.

sannomiya: assuming the 'target language' on 0.2.8 was set to Japanese, simply doing Deck -> Open and loading the old Korean deck should work. If you're importing, you'll need to use the "Japanese" model or it'll try and put English in the first field. After you've imported with Japanese, you can change the name of the model to 'Korean'. If you don't have any luck, email me the deck and I'll convert it for you :-)

Last edited by resolve (2007 August 08, 6:14 pm)

Just wanted to report that I upgraded the program with the auto-update and it worked perfectly.  Deck also converted with the auto-update and looks fine.  Thanks for the great work with this program.

Ok so the steps I took were this:
1) Opened Anki
2) Let Anki update itself
4) Select import from the menu
5) Answer "Japanese" because that is what I am studying
6) Select my .mem file
7) Wait for the import
8) I end up with a deck that imports 2792 cards and has 2779 remaining and a total count of 5584.
9) Figure out the new import jargon and disable card model 2
10) Redo everything from step 4, it worked fine this time.

What I would expect to see is:
8) A deck with 2792 cards, 64 scheduled, 31 "not memorized" or "new", and no need for steps 9 and 10.  The steps I took seem pretty intuitive to me and I am sure the people I have recommend the program to will do something similar.  I would think that the default for an import of an established deck from another program or even Anki would be to assume the user has already dealt with the issue of what reverse entry cards they want or don't want.

Aside from that though I think the new changes are fantastic!  Keep up the great work.  Also are sound and images supported yet or is that still a bit in the future?

You are doing a great job. It is a very good program. I have 4 suggestions.

1) Import the categories from mnemosyne and add it at anki as tags. Allowing the user to deactivate and activate categories (anki=tags) would be really interesting. Allowing the user to assign tags to a group of cards it is necessary, now it is only possible doing one by one.

2)An option to export to mnemosyne would be also good.

3) In the "Edit deck..." window, to go down or up the separator bar isn't fluid. It seems like it only have 3 positions and that is not useful.

4)It would be a good idea that the program allow the user to "pause" the program in order to ETA doesn't run during that time, allowing the user to have anki opened without reviewing and without ETA count that time.

By the way, I'm using the windows version.

PD:Sorry for my poor english

Last edited by Pcsl88 (2007 August 09, 8:23 am)

Great to hear there'll be sound and image file support. That'll meet my needs perfectly.

PS: Is there a way to emulate the review system that this website uses? It seems to be great in how it has "added, missed, remembered, need of review" stacks. That and the simple "yes/no" to whether you remember or not seems most intuitive.

Is there a way to mass tag the cards?

Last edited by Reikon (2007 August 09, 1:03 am)

MightyMatt: Hmm. Do you have autosave/sync on? I can't seem to reproduce this.

dilandau23: A new user needs to figure out the card models regardless of if
they have an old deck, since they affect how new cards will be added too.
Perhaps a message in the 'new deck' screen could give users a hint.

The way it behaves with mnemosyne decks may seem strange to you, but it makes
more sense when you think about it in the context of text files, or unedited
mnemosyne decks you download from someone else: in that case, the ability to
automatically generate the duplicate entries can be handy. Wouldn't a note in
the status area of the importing dialog be enough?

johnzep: Because existing cards are prioritized over new cards, Anki doesn't
need a 'feed me x cards a day' option. All you have to do is study as many as
you want, then stop. When you return the next day, any expired cards will be
displayed first.

Support for tagging multiple cards will be added in the future, but I don't
think it's necessary to explicitly suspend specific cards - just leave them in
the 'new' pile until you're ready.

Pcsl88: support for tagging on import is planned. I'll also make it pick up
the category in mnemosyne on importing: the only reason it doesn't now is
because I forgot about it!

I doubt I will add export to mnemosyne support. Eventually I'll provide
support for exporting data as XML: it will be up to the mnemosyne author to
write an importer for that

The separating bar behaves like that because the text fields enforce a minimum
height. This'll be fixed when I add a scrollbar.

There is no need to pause. If you take more than a minute to answer a
question, it will stop counting.

Nukemarine: sound and picture support will be in 0.3.x, but it is not
currently in 0.3.0. It's coming soon, anyway.

It's unlikely that Anki will support a more simplified review system in the
future. I don't think that a simple "yes/no" is sufficient for accurately
scheduling cards, and I don't agree with the idea of 'stacks', as it leads to
the user micromanaging their cards. The SRS should take care of that for you.

Transic: it's supposed to give you an update every 5% as it downloads. I'll
have to make the display permanent.

Please send me your deck and I'll look at the reversed cards.

The Japanese translations are patchy at the moment: many strings have changed
since 0.2.8, and I haven't sat down and updated the Japanese strings. I will
polish the interface more as 0.3.x progresses.

Reikon: not currently, but it will be added soon.

littleblue: it's a library bug. I work around it by swallowing the space if
it's at the start of the field, but can't do that in the middle of the field
or you would become unable to add any spaces at all. It needs to be fixed in
the library, something I can't do myself. A diligent Mac user might like to
file a report to the Qt people :-)

Thanks for the report. Only crops up on Windows due to timing issues. I've commited a fix.