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Reply #226 - 2007 July 16, 10:08 pm
JimmySeal Member
From: Kyoto Registered: 2006-03-28 Posts: 2279

Yea I'm using Windows.  Not sure if I installed from the web binary or if this was an auto update.  I'll e-mail you my decks.

Reply #227 - 2007 July 16, 10:09 pm
dilandau23 Member
From: Japan Registered: 2006-09-13 Posts: 330

JimmySeal wrote:

What version of Mnemosyne do you have?  I have 0.9.7 .

I have 0.9.8.1

Reply #228 - 2007 July 16, 10:26 pm
resolve Member
From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

Mnemosyne changed file format between 0.9.7 and 0.9.8.1 - it now includes a line up the top specifying the version number, like this:

--- Mnemosyne Data Base --- Format Version 1 ---

Anki expects this line. You can either upgrade your deck with the latest mnemosyne, or just open the file in binary mode and add a line up the top.

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Reply #229 - 2007 July 17, 12:54 am
JimmySeal Member
From: Kyoto Registered: 2006-03-28 Posts: 2279

Wouldn't ya know it.  Those sneaky buggers changed the file format in the two months or so since I downloaded the program.
Thanks.

Reply #230 - 2007 July 18, 7:19 am
brose Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2006-11-15 Posts: 94

I usually use Anki around the same time each day. One problem I found is that if I am a bit late one day, then cards on a 1 day review don't show up when I go back to the usual time. How about making reviews scheduled for 1 day come at an interval of 23 hours?

Reply #231 - 2007 July 18, 7:29 am
resolve Member
From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

Hi brose,

The interval is adjustable in the upcoming 0.3, so you can set the delay to whatever you like.

Reply #232 - 2007 July 21, 3:46 am
wzafran Member
From: Malaysia Registered: 2007-05-16 Posts: 88 Website

Just a quick question, resolve: by being able to change the intervals of the repetition, wouldn't that also affect the efficiency of the memorization process? Isn't spatial repetition supposed to be based on some sort of 'fixed' minimum time-frame before a review?

Reply #233 - 2007 July 21, 4:04 am
resolve Member
From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

We're just talking about adjusting the 'next day' delay here. Once the user remembered the fact better, they will go on to use higher, standard intervals. In the long term there is an optimal period of time in which reviewing enforces the memory without requiring you to review too much. But in the first few weeks the rules of the game are different. 0.3 will let you change the initial intervals (so for example you can add pre-known material and then schedule it off in 1-3 months in the future), but once cards mature (have been remembered correctly on hitting '4'), they will continue to be scheduled like before.

So to confirm, Anki won't have a predefined set of intervals you can set, like some flashcard programs. Such an approach is bad, IMHO.

Last edited by resolve (2007 July 21, 4:05 am)

Reply #234 - 2007 July 22, 3:18 am
wrightak Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2006-04-07 Posts: 873 Website

What's the estimated time for release?

Reply #235 - 2007 July 22, 5:46 am
resolve Member
From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

As soon as possible :-)

Syncing is implemented now and the new backend is mostly frozen. Unless I run into any last-minute problems, I should have a beta out within a few days.

Reply #236 - 2007 July 22, 11:43 am
resolve Member
From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

All the major new features of 0.3 have been implemented. The library has lots of unit tests now, but they don't cover everything, and the GUI hasn't received much testing at all. Please report any problems you experience.

Notes:

- Please backup your files before trying it. The upgrade should do it automatically, but better to be safe than sorry.

- The files are in a zip, instead of an installer, so that you can continue to use 0.2.8 in parallel. Unzip the file and run the binary.

- While I don't think that the new version will eat your data, I haven't tested it much yet. Please experiment with it as much as you want, but please keep using 0.2.8 for studying until beta2 is released.

- Syncing is implemented, but disabled. I need to upgrade the web side too, which will be done before 0.3.0-final. Probably beta2 or beta3.

(windows)
http://repose.cx/dump/anki-0.3.0-beta1.zip

Reply #237 - 2007 July 22, 12:49 pm
akrodha Member
From: Miami, FL Registered: 2006-08-30 Posts: 98 Website

I'm guessing there's no mac beta out yet...

Reply #238 - 2007 July 22, 12:55 pm
resolve Member
From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

i'll build one after a conbini run :-) back soon

Reply #239 - 2007 July 22, 1:44 pm
resolve Member
From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

Mac image at:

http://repose.cx/dump/Anki.dmg

Reply #240 - 2007 July 22, 7:12 pm
Mighty_Matt Member
From: Koga Registered: 2006-07-18 Posts: 197 Website

Hmm, I had a quick play on the beta, but now I can't run my previous version of anki.  I've deleted the beta and it still says that there's some lock file.  If I tell it to try and open anyways then it fails and creates a log file.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ui\main.pyo", line 472, in onCardStats
  File "anki\stats.pyo", line 334, in report
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'created'
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ankiqt.py", line 69, in <module>
  File "ui\main.pyc", line 52, in __init__
  File "ui\main.pyc", line 208, in maybeLoadLastDeck
  File "ui\main.pyc", line 186, in loadDeck
  File "anki\sched.pyc", line 504, in load
  File "anki\deck.pyc", line 121, in load
NameError: global name 'errors' is not defined
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ankiqt.py", line 69, in <module>
  File "ui\main.pyc", line 52, in __init__
  File "ui\main.pyc", line 208, in maybeLoadLastDeck
  File "ui\main.pyc", line 186, in loadDeck
  File "anki\sched.pyc", line 504, in load
  File "anki\deck.pyc", line 121, in load
NameError: global name 'errors' is not defined
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ankiqt.py", line 69, in <module>
  File "ui\main.pyc", line 52, in __init__
  File "ui\main.pyc", line 208, in maybeLoadLastDeck
  File "ui\main.pyc", line 186, in loadDeck
  File "anki\sched.pyc", line 504, in load
  File "anki\deck.pyc", line 121, in load
NameError: global name 'errors' is not defined

Reply #241 - 2007 July 22, 7:31 pm
Mighty_Matt Member
From: Koga Registered: 2006-07-18 Posts: 197 Website

Just to let you know.  A reboot didn't solve it, but uninstalling and reinstalling seems to have worked...

Reply #242 - 2007 July 22, 7:48 pm
kurojohn Member
From: Japan Registered: 2005-08-05 Posts: 10

Similar proplem on a Mac.  Can't get the previous version to run at all anymore.  Tried to delete all the related files (application and preference fiile) and return to the previous version but was unsucessful.

Reply #243 - 2007 July 22, 8:16 pm
resolve Member
From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

Ah, sorry. You need to run the new version with a command line argument to tell it to use a different config file. I should have done that by default.

For now, you can pass '-c /path/to/newdir' to Anki, or back up $HOME/.anki before trying it out (restoring that dir when you want to move back to 0.2.8)

The old version is crashing because it's trying to load a .anki file. If you open the old Anki with a path to a deck - for example on windows, dragging a .fc onto the binary, it should start up. On the mac, mount the dmg and then run this command in a terminal, replacing the path to your deck as necessary:

/Volumes/Anki/Anki.app/Contents/MacOS/Anki ~/Documents/tango.fc

Anki 0.2.8 should continue to function after that. Sorry for the scare.

Last edited by resolve (2007 July 22, 8:37 pm)

Reply #244 - 2007 July 22, 8:42 pm
kurojohn Member
From: Japan Registered: 2005-08-05 Posts: 10

Solved my problem.  Thanks!

Reply #245 - 2007 July 22, 10:09 pm
resolve Member
From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

Here's beta2. It fixes a bunch of bugs and uses a different config file by default, so you don't have to worry about the trouble above.

Win: http://repose.cx/dump/anki-0.3.0-beta2.zip
Mac: http://repose.cx/dump/Anki.dmg
Linux: http://repose.cx/dump/beta2.tgz

Last edited by resolve (2007 July 22, 10:09 pm)

Reply #246 - 2007 July 22, 11:23 pm
resolve Member
From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

Some of the new features summed up in screenshots:

http://repose.cx/dump/betashots/

Reply #247 - 2007 July 23, 2:29 am
yorkii Member
From: Moriya, Ibaraki Registered: 2005-10-26 Posts: 408 Website

looks like a LOT has been implemented into the new version. I hope it doesn7t complicate things too much.

the add cards section is what I am most looking forward too as I was adding cards from mnemosyne only before.

excellent work on this product once again. /bow

Reply #248 - 2007 July 23, 2:37 pm
resolve Member
From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

Beta3 - a bunch of bugfixes, new deck 'wizard'

Win: http://repose.cx/dump/anki-0.3.0-beta3.zip
Mac: http://repose.cx/dump/Anki.dmg

Last edited by resolve (2007 July 23, 2:38 pm)

Reply #249 - 2007 July 23, 4:22 pm
Chadokoro_K Member
From: Berkeley, CA - Uji, Japan Registered: 2006-08-22 Posts: 158

A couple of quick questions...

Does Anki support exporting any decks I create with it, and if so, as what type of file?

Is ok (safe to make and keep my data) using the new Beta3 or should I install the old 2.8 version? (I have been waiting for this release and its new features before starting in with Anki. So should I wait a little longer, or what?)

Thanks!

Reply #250 - 2007 July 23, 9:25 pm
resolve Member
From: 山口 Registered: 2007-05-29 Posts: 919 Website

Hi Chadokoro,

People kept asking when the new release would be out, so I wanted to put out a beta for testing. I'd like to test it a little more before people start using it seriously - perhaps another week or so. I'm also busy writing the interface - the deck format should be mostly stable, but the UI needs to catch up. The old 0.2.8 should be fine for now - Anki will upgrade your deck automatically when you start using the new one.

Exporting is not yet implemented, but will be soon. I understand the desire not to input data into a closed system.

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