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leosmith Member
Registered: 2005-11-18 Posts: 352

Next week I’ll be in Kobe for a period of 3 weeks. After that I won’t be back for a year. In the 3 weeks, my main language goal is to take some “normal” reading material and study the vocab enough to turn it into material that I can read at a “comfortable” speed. Whatever I get is going to have to be enough for the whole year (I read Japanese 5-10 min/day when I’m not in Japan). Unfortunately, even though I’ve studied Japanese off and on for 5 years, my reading level is still low intermediate. So here are my requirements for readers:

1)    printed material (not digital), able to buy in Japan
2)    no furigana or romaji in the body of the text. Off to the side, or on a different page is acceptable.
3)    “normal” amount of kanji (in this respect, not simplified for the learner)
4)    actual stories, articles, etc. I don’t mind if they were written specifically for learners, but I’m not looking for mere lists of sentences.
5)    Easy to comprehend, with common and useful vocabulary. That being said, I do want to practice my kanji, and generally steer away from children’s books and materials with too much kana.
6)    No tiny text. Normal size is usually ok, but occasionally I’ll see material that strains my old eyes.
7)     No Manga

Any suggestions?

Last edited by leosmith (2010 March 13, 10:38 pm)

ta12121 Member
From: Canada Registered: 2009-06-02 Posts: 3190

cram kanji readings? and vocab? But understanding may take abit longer....
Since you're looking for something common. I guess you can search up frequency tables and study them, well in terms of reading/context that pops up most in newspaper,books,shows,etc. So basic stuff,basic grammer, these can me learned in a few days. But depends on what you do i guess.

Last edited by ta12121 (2010 March 13, 11:00 pm)

Delina Member
From: US Registered: 2008-02-12 Posts: 102

ちょっとひとこと is a collection of articles that readers of a newspaper sent in over the years. It is out of print but you might be able to find it in a library or Book-Off. The ISBN is 4257050292 (ISBN-13: 978-4257050292) and it was published in 1982 by 朝日ソノラマ.

It is designed for learners but only uncommon kanji have furigana. Some vocabulary has facing-page translations and readings, as well as comprehension/discussion questions (in Japanese).

E-mail me (link next to my kanji) if you are interested - I have a couple pages I could send you as preview. (Also if you do happen to find this - if you find two I would love to have one!)

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Reply #4 - 2010 March 14, 1:43 am
Jarvik7 Member
From: 名古屋 Registered: 2007-03-05 Posts: 3946

Just goto the foreign book section of any large bookstore chain like Kinokuniya, Maruzen, or Junkudou. There are many different readers ranging in theme and difficulty, but not so many as to make buying decisions very difficult.

Don't bother going to Bookoff or any other used bookstores (unless you also want some books or manga meant for natives). I go to three different ones pretty much weekly (including an 大型 Bookoff) and I have never seen a single Japanese book meant for foreigners.

Last edited by Jarvik7 (2010 March 14, 1:26 pm)

Reply #5 - 2010 March 14, 5:32 am
wccrawford Member
From: FL US Registered: 2008-03-28 Posts: 1551

Buying a year's worth now seems like a good idea, but you're going to change a lot over a year.  Buy a bunch of stuff you think you'll like, and then just pay the price to buy more stuff online as you need it.

leosmith Member
Registered: 2005-11-18 Posts: 352

ta12121 wrote:

I guess you can search up frequency tables and study them, well in terms of reading/context that pops up most in newspaper,books,shows,etc. So basic stuff,basic grammer, these can me learned in a few days.

?

Delina wrote:

ちょっとひとこと is a collection of articles that readers of a newspaper sent in over the years.

Thanks - I'll keep an eye open for it.

wccrawford wrote:

you're going to change a lot over a year.

Thanks for your positive comment, but I'm afraid I'm mainly in a sustaining mode for the next few years.

Jarvik7 wrote:

Just goto the foreign book section of any large bookstore chain like Kinokuniya, Maruzen, or Junkodou. There are many different readers ranging in theme and difficulty, but not so many as to make buying decisions very difficult.

Thanks Jarvik7. Anything in particular you like more than others?

Jarvik7 Member
From: 名古屋 Registered: 2007-03-05 Posts: 3946

I've never read one so I can't really offer suggestions based on which ones I enjoyed.

The "graded Japanese reader" series might be good if you are lower level though.

chamcham Member
Registered: 2005-11-11 Posts: 1444

maybe you should try children's books. They are easier to read and often much shorter than real novels.

There is a series of books known as あかね 新読み物シリーズ

They are listed on the inside flap of 強くてゴメンね (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E5%BC%B7%E3%81 … amp;sr=8-1)

強くてゴメンね is written by 令丈 ヒロ子 and is part of the スプラッシュ・ストーリーズ

There are furigana on some words (I guess for kanji children are not expected to know).

Btw, AFAIK most (but not all) books/manga without furigana tend to have more advanced vocabulary (unless you're lucky enough to find a reader with vocab and furigana listed on the bottom half of the page).

Last edited by chamcham (2010 March 20, 10:45 pm)

Reply #9 - 2010 March 14, 1:04 pm
stehr Member
From: california Registered: 2007-09-25 Posts: 281

A book that I have particularly enjoyed is 弁護士というお仕事 (sugoi).  It is a collection of short stories of interesting legal cases submitted by lawyers and judges.  Some of the stories are very accessible to an intermediate reader (with Heisig background).

Reply #10 - 2010 March 18, 8:38 am
leosmith Member
Registered: 2005-11-18 Posts: 352

Jarvik7 wrote:

The "graded Japanese reader" series might be good if you are lower level though.

Per this thread these have furigana. I'm going to the book store tomorrow to see if I can find anything interesting in the foreign language section.

Thanks chamcham and stehr.

I wonder - has anyone run across any good readers in their Japanese language courses?

Reply #11 - 2010 March 20, 5:07 am
leosmith Member
Registered: 2005-11-18 Posts: 352

I just got back from spending about 3 hours in Junkudo book store. I was about to give up after the first 45 minutes or so, when all of the sudden I hit pay dirt. I spent the next 2+ hours going thru 2 shelves of a single book case. I found about a dozen books that were acceptable for what I want to do.

If you decided to do this on your own, some things to note. All but 2 of these books were Japanese titles with little or no English. Also, few were actually labeled in a way to make it obvious what was inside. So avoid the temptation to ignore books that don’t have “Japanese Reader” printed on the cover:)

One of the dozen books was an “intermediate” English medium textbook, designed for those who already have about 300 hours under their belts, which is supposed to have downloadable dialogues, etc for students who buy the book. Looked like a great book, with English explanations of some aspects of the stories, and English definitions of new vocab. It was a name I never heard, but will go back and see if anybody is interested. I didn’t choose that one because it seemed too big for what I want to do.

Only one of the dozen had a CD. Unfortunately, I was about 90% sure that it was for exercises rather than the stories, so I didn’t choose that one.

3 or 4 had English definitions of vocabulary. Only one had an extra “all furigana” version of the main text. This same book had an index with English definition of all words. Bought that one.

Several had vertical text. 2 or 3 had all vertical text. One of those had a very high percentage of reading pages. It was all stories, with new vocab in the margins. No questions, exercises, etc. If someone is interested, I’ll find out the name for you. I didn’t buy it because I already found a nice book without English definitions, that had pictures and appeared to be more comprehensible at first glance.

One book that looked really good from a reader standpoint was one with about a dozen tombstones on the cover. About a bunch of dead famous Japanese people, I think. English vocabulary lists on the next page. I didn’t buy it because it seemed like a boring subject to me. Be glad to list it for anyone who is interested.

In my time at the store, I kept on going off to the side with a stack of books to rest, and narrow down my selection. This really didn’t work very well, as I wasn’t able to easily decide. After I’d gone through everything, I sat down one last time with 6 books on my lap. I finally put my foot down and swore to only buy 2 books. These were what I wound up with:

1)中級日本語
棟京外国語大学留学生日本語教育センター
ISBN978-4-89358-249-2 C3081
¥2233
paperback, 161 pages (about 60 pages of reading)
21 lessons
Lesson Format: Attention peaking questions. An article. Questions about the article. No furigana.
Indices:  Answers to questions. “New” compounds from the article with furigana. (3) kanji/kana indices.
Level: lower intermediate/intermediate

2) Reading and writing in Japanese for Beginners
ALC Press Textbook Series
ISBN978-4-7574-0242-3 C0081
¥1800
paperback, 165 pages (about 20 pages of reading)
20 lessons
Lesson Format: Varies at first, but settles down to: An article without furigana. Questions/exercises. The same article with 100% furigana. “New” vocabulary list with furigana and English definitions.
Indices:  Answers to questions/exercises. English definition of all vocabulary. Grammar.
Level: lower intermediate/intermediate

Hey, after counting the actual pages of reading, I’m a little shy of my goal of 100. Sweet – looks like I’m going back to the store!

Last edited by leosmith (2010 March 20, 8:31 am)

Reply #12 - 2010 March 20, 8:27 am
leosmith Member
Registered: 2005-11-18 Posts: 352

I just got back from Junkudo again. I decided to buy the text book and the one with all vertical text and high percentage of reading pages. Here are the details:

3) Tobira Gateway to Advanced Japanese Learning Through Content and Multimedia
上級へのとびら
ISBN978-4-87424-447-0 C0081
¥3300
paperback, 403 pages (about 60 pages of reading)
15 lessons
Lesson Format: Attention peaking questions. An article (free audio online) with furigana under new vocabulary. Vocabulary list with furigana/kana and english definitions. Dialog (free audio online) with furigana under new vocabulary. Vocabulary list with furigana/kana and english definitions. Questions/exercises (some with free audio online). Grammar with english explanations. An article with furigana under new vocabulary. Vocabulary list with furigana/kana and english definitions. There is also a short video for most lessons online.
Indices:  Vocabulary list with english definitions. Expanded table of contents.
Level: Intermediate

4) 日本語ステップアップ
初級から中級へ
ISBN4-906336-08-6 C3081
¥2000
paperback, 131 pages (about 80 pages of reading)
25 lessons
Lesson Format: Story with no furigana. Vocabulary list with furigana. Exercises.
Indices:  None
Level: lower intermediate/intermediate

Last edited by leosmith (2010 March 20, 9:38 am)

Reply #13 - 2010 March 20, 11:50 pm
chamcham Member
Registered: 2005-11-11 Posts: 1444

How about light novels?

In terms of vocabulary, they're above manga but below "real" novels.

They will definitely challenge your kanji ability and often don't have
many furigana (often only on words/readings that are considered difficult).

Probably the most famous light novel out there is "Kino no Tabi" (キノの旅).
"Spice and Wolf" (狼と香辛料) is another famous one.

Both series originally started out as light novels (with new novels still being published).

Here's a summary of both:

Kino no Tabi (Wikipedia):
In Kino's Journey, the protagonist, Kino, accompanied by a talking motorcycle, a Brough Superior motorcycle named Hermes, travels through a mystical world of many different countries and forests, each unique in its customs and people. Kino only spends three days and two nights in every town, without exception, on the principle that three days is enough time to learn almost everything important about a place, while leaving time to explore new lands. Kino says in The Land of Visible Pain that this principle is probably a lie, specifically noting "if I stay any longer, I'm afraid I will settle down." A phrase repeated in the anime and novels is "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is." Kino's Journey explores what the anime director Ryutaro Nakamura described as "a radical sense of 'beauty,"[2] and brutality, loneliness, nonsense, oppression and tragedy are often juxtaposed against compassion and a fairy-tale atmosphere.


Wolf and Spice (Wikipedia):
Spice and Wolf's story revolves around Kraft Lawrence, a twenty-five-year-old traveling merchant who peddles various goods from town to town to make a living in a stylized historical setting with European influences.[6] His main goal in life is to gather enough money to start his own shop, and he already has been traveling for seven years while gaining experience in the trade. One night when stopped at the town of Pasroe, he finds in his wagon a pagan wolf-deity girl named Holo who is over 600 years old. She appears to be a fifteen-year-old girl, except for a wolf's tail and ears. She introduces herself as the town's goddess of harvest, who has kept it blessed with good harvests of wheat for many years. Despite having the responsibility to watch over the town, she wants to go back to her homeland in the north called Yoitsu; she believes the people have already forsaken her and that she has kept her promise to maintain the good harvests. Holo wants also to travel to see how the world has changed while she has remained in one place for years. She manages to bargain her way out of the village by making a deal with Lawrence to take her with him. As they travel, her wisdom helps increase his profits, but at the same time, her true nature draws unwanted attention from the church. Throughout the series, the two slowly fall in love.

I'm sure you could find these cheap at a used bookstore in Japan. A few dollars per issue. At worst, you'd pay $5-$6 for a new issue.

Last edited by chamcham (2010 March 20, 11:57 pm)

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