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Reply #1 - 2010 March 08, 8:46 pm
spleenlol Member
From: Michigan Registered: 2009-07-07 Posts: 154

So this might be a pretty basic question but what is the different between the DS and the DS Lite?

Reply #2 - 2010 March 08, 8:53 pm
Blank Member
From: California Registered: 2009-07-30 Posts: 104

DS Lite is smaller, lighter, has a brighter screen, and is less ugly. Of course it's a little more expensive, but if you were getting one today I'd absolutely recommend at least a DS Lite, if not a DSi or a DS XL (is that out yet? And is it any good?)

Reply #3 - 2010 March 08, 8:57 pm
gyuujuice Member
From: USA Registered: 2008-09-24 Posts: 828

You can't buy a DS anymore--the DS lite pretty much replaced it.
DSi has downloadable content, a camera and a few other gadgets.
(If you want to download Japanese games you will need a JAPANESE DSi but you can still play regular Japanese games on an American DSi. )

DSiXL or DSiLL as it is known in Japan is a larger version of the DSi with better speakers and two games allready downloaded.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/index.html

I hope that was helpful!

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Reply #4 - 2010 March 08, 9:17 pm
spleenlol Member
From: Michigan Registered: 2009-07-07 Posts: 154

Well my birthday is in may and I want a DS. I wasn't really sure what all they were like. Those new DSi's look pretty nice. I guess they come out April 5th? So maybe I should ask for that one instead of DSLite huh?

Reply #5 - 2010 March 08, 9:28 pm
JimmySeal Member
From: Kyoto Registered: 2006-03-28 Posts: 2279

spleenlol wrote:

I guess they come out April 5th?

I don't think you need to worry about the release date unless you're planning on taking a time machine back to last March.


you can still play regular Japanese games on an American DSi

DS games are not region locked and this remains true on the DSi, but DSi-specific games (downloadable or otherwise) are region locked.

Reply #6 - 2010 March 08, 9:44 pm
spleenlol Member
From: Michigan Registered: 2009-07-07 Posts: 154

hahaha oh wow I totally missed that what i read was a year old...

So I can play japanese games still on the DSi but if I want to download them it would have to be a Japanese DSi?

Reply #7 - 2010 March 08, 9:55 pm
JimmySeal Member
From: Kyoto Registered: 2006-03-28 Posts: 2279

spleenlol wrote:

hahaha oh wow I totally missed that what i read was a year old...

So I can play japanese games still on the DSi but if I want to download them it would have to be a Japanese DSi?

You can play Japanese DS games on an American DSi machine, but not Japanese DSi games.  Most of the games worth playing are still ordinary DS games. That could change in the future, or might not.

Reply #8 - 2010 March 08, 9:57 pm
spleenlol Member
From: Michigan Registered: 2009-07-07 Posts: 154

Thanks for all of the help JimmySeal. I appreciate it!

Sebastian Member
Registered: 2008-09-09 Posts: 583

gyuujuice wrote:

DSiXL or DSiLL as it is known in Japan is a larger version of the DSi with better speakers and two games allready downloaded.

When are they going to release the DSPad?



[/geeky joke]

Reply #10 - 2010 March 09, 12:27 am
Zarxrax Member
From: North Carolina Registered: 2008-03-24 Posts: 949

Unless there are any downloadable games that you would like, I think the dsi is pretty pointless, and you may as well just get a cheaper ds lite.
The upcoming DSi Xl is like... for elderly people who strain their eyes trying to see the screen... I definitely wouldn't get that one if you want something that can easily fit in your pocket.

Reply #11 - 2010 March 09, 4:19 am
wccrawford Member
From: FL US Registered: 2008-03-28 Posts: 1551

I just bought a Japanese DSi LL recently so I could download 立体かくし絵アッタコレダ and man, it was great.  Lots of easy-to-read Japanese and fun puzzles.  But, since it was only 500 yen, it wasn't very long.  I'm hoping they make a sequel.

There's already like 200 downloadable games, too!  It actually came with 3:  2 Brain Age games (In Japanese, of course) and a dictionary. (!)

The Brain Age games are in Japanese, of course, so it thinks my brain is really old because I'm so slow at reading.  big_smile

Reply #12 - 2010 March 09, 5:07 am
Tobberoth Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2008-08-25 Posts: 3364

DS Lite + Kanji Sono Mama Rakubi Jiten = Cheaper than a real denshi jisho and you get the best portable gaming system to date.

Awesomeness.

Reply #13 - 2010 March 09, 10:16 am
spleenlol Member
From: Michigan Registered: 2009-07-07 Posts: 154

Yeah I was gonna get that Kanji Sono mama rakubi jiten. It looks really nice and super handy. Dictionary on the go! big_smile

Reply #14 - 2010 March 09, 10:29 am
gyuujuice Member
From: USA Registered: 2008-09-24 Posts: 828

僕も立体かくし絵アッタコレダを買ってしています!
^__^

The dictionary is a must--I downloaded a 500 dollar one.
I think the only difference between the full game and the downlaodable one is that full one is billingual and has recorded voices for most of the words.

Reply #15 - 2010 March 09, 11:04 am
Dankoochoo Member
Registered: 2010-02-12 Posts: 38 Website

The DSLite is slimmer, has differents levels of light, has the microphone in the middle (for better input), a bigger stylus, and better availability. However, the DS (Nitro) costs less (even back when the DS Nitro was new!) has a vertical stylus holder (making the stylus less liekly to slip out), and covers GBA games all the way (whereas the DSLite has them stick out about half-way).

The DSi does not have GBA support (as well as any accessories that use the slot),  uses more electricity, and does not support German, Italian, or Nipponese (in the Americas version, at least), but has a camera and respective photo altering software, a better Internet experience complete with cheap downloadable content (that increases in number every week), a sound recorder-player, a "reset" button (a re-programmed POWER button), semi-hardware light adjustment (a button combination), and bigger screens. The DSiLL (or DSiXL) is just way bigger, making such convenient for those times when others want to watch you play (or if you are playing Ooendan).

Reply #16 - 2010 March 09, 11:14 am
JimmySeal Member
From: Kyoto Registered: 2006-03-28 Posts: 2279

gyuujuice wrote:

The dictionary is a must--I downloaded a 500 dollar one.

I hope you missed a decimal point there somewhere.

Reply #17 - 2010 March 09, 11:56 am
mentat_kgs Member
From: Brasil Registered: 2008-04-18 Posts: 1671 Website

Same for PSP. You can't buy any downloaded content on the PSP if you don't have an approved card and they don't approve your card if your billing address is not in the country you are registered.

The bad solution is, if you are in some place of the globe that you can't import Japanese DS games without paying 4 times its value for the shipment, you can get your games in a Flashcard using R4DS or something alike.

As for PS3, getting Japanese games is a beach. I wonder why Japanese people don't sell used games on ebay like people in the US.

Reply #18 - 2010 March 09, 11:59 am
drivers99 Member
From: Alamogordo NM Registered: 2009-03-31 Posts: 141

I have a DSi but it has the ability to update the firmware over the net. Doing so disabled my AceKard2i (an SD card reader for the DSi which lets you run homebrew apps (like ndsrs, an SRS program; although it was too much effort to use, I use iAnki plugin for Anki on an iPod touch instead), listen to mp3s, put text files on it to read, and yes, run downloaded/pirated software (or I guess you could use it so you don't have to carry all your cartridges with you. yeah, that's it.)). Fortunately I was able to fix it by getting a DS lite and running an update program from there.  The DS lite isn't updatable so Nintendo can't "fix" it to break your SD memory card readers.

Last edited by drivers99 (2010 March 09, 12:01 pm)

Reply #19 - 2010 March 09, 12:44 pm
spleenlol Member
From: Michigan Registered: 2009-07-07 Posts: 154

drivers99 wrote:

I have a DSi but it has the ability to update the firmware over the net. Doing so disabled my AceKard2i (an SD card reader for the DSi which lets you run homebrew apps (like ndsrs, an SRS program; although it was too much effort to use, I use iAnki plugin for Anki on an iPod touch instead), listen to mp3s, put text files on it to read, and yes, run downloaded/pirated software (or I guess you could use it so you don't have to carry all your cartridges with you. yeah, that's it.)). Fortunately I was able to fix it by getting a DS lite and running an update program from there.  The DS lite isn't updatable so Nintendo can't "fix" it to break your SD memory card readers.

oh i didn't think about doing srs on that... do you know of a compatible program with DSi besides AceKard2i? I don't have an iphone or anything and I think that srs on the go would be a great thing for me. specially if i had a DS that could us SRS. smile


EDIT:Besides AceKard2i because I'm guessing it's not compatible anymore?

Last edited by spleenlol (2010 March 09, 12:45 pm)

Reply #20 - 2010 March 09, 12:48 pm
wccrawford Member
From: FL US Registered: 2008-03-28 Posts: 1551

spleenlol wrote:

EDIT:Besides AceKard2i because I'm guessing it's not compatible anymore?

A little birdy told me that the M3i is flashable so can't be negated like that.

Reply #21 - 2010 March 09, 1:22 pm
Rekkusu Member
From: Kyoto Registered: 2009-07-12 Posts: 172

Acekard has nothing to do with the SRS program, or homebrew / 'other' apps/games in general. You just need a flash card for your DS(i), which come in a range of brands.
Other brands are the before mentioned M3 (i / DS simply / DS real) or R4 cards, though the latter suffer from bad quality copies sold, which is annoying.

Any decent card will support homebrew apps and what not, I personally trained my kana using some homebrew app on my M3 DS Simply smile

Reply #22 - 2010 March 09, 1:23 pm
Rekkusu Member
From: Kyoto Registered: 2009-07-12 Posts: 172

And yes, if you want to use flashcards, and don't really have any DSiWare download titles you want, its a better option to go for a DS lite, since they don't do firmware updates for that device that might kill your flashcard.

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