Favorite Japanese Drill Books

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Reply #26 - 2010 March 02, 5:26 pm
yudantaiteki Member
Registered: 2009-10-03 Posts: 3619

Note that all the drills in BJ and JSL are intended to be oral drills; many of them are not that hard on paper but when you're trying to respond at normal speed after the oral prompt, without looking at any written form, it can be a lot harder.  Then in class, you're expected to use the material from the drills (and core conversations) in simulated contexts, without any explicit prompts (e.g. "now we're going to do drill E" or the like).

Basically it follows a pretty regimented plan for introducing material:
- All new patterns and vocab are introduced as "core conversations" that are supposed to be memorized along with viewing the videos which contextualize them
- The new patterns and vocab are then drilled mechanically
- The mechanical drills are then applied with "application exercises" and in-class exercises that simulate contexts (classes ideally conducted in all Japanese with no books or notes)
- Finally, short English prompts are used to serve as the starting point for whole conversations based on the material from the lesson.

In my experience as a teacher of this method it works quite well for students who are willing to put in the work.  They tend to lag behind in kanji and reading, but their speaking ability is way ahead.

Last edited by yudantaiteki (2010 March 02, 6:14 pm)

Reply #27 - 2010 March 02, 5:44 pm
nest0r Member
Registered: 2007-10-19 Posts: 5236 Website

@Asriel - Pfft, your skills need work before you can accidentally type stuff like that properly. ;p

BTW, anyone else know more about that KM2 Grammar book in English that timewastin' mentioned in another thread (to mezbup)? Were they just referring to the KM2 まとめ book thingy which has English, or is there an English translated copy of "... 文法問題対策"?

Last edited by nest0r (2010 March 02, 5:45 pm)

Reply #28 - 2010 March 18, 7:46 pm
caivano Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2010-03-14 Posts: 705

日本語500問 is good and cheap and there are 3 levels.

Last edited by caivano (2010 March 18, 7:47 pm)

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Reply #29 - 2010 March 18, 9:01 pm
TheVinster Member
From: Illinois Registered: 2009-07-15 Posts: 985

Thanks, I'll probably try to take advatange of the "Kanzen Master" books. I'm also planning on getting "A Dictionary of Basic Grammar." But I really have to work on my vocabulary too!

Reply #30 - 2010 March 18, 9:58 pm
rich_f Member
From: north carolina Registered: 2007-07-12 Posts: 1708

The kanzen master books are fine for review, but don't use them alone. The explanations are just too terse to help you fully get the proper usage down, IMO.

That said, the books are handy if you're using something like Anki and you're looking for a source for example sentences to highlight grammar points, or you're looking for problems to put in for Cloze deletion cards.

If you must use KM as a grammar text, then you must get a good grammar dictionary. Which one you get depends on your Japanese level. The more English you need, the more limited your choices become.

Also keep in mind that KM is geared towards the JLPT, and may not always include "normal" Japanese you'll see in other books.