You're already doing them.

Non-extreme means taking the same boring old classes that people have taken for years.

The most extreme you get is RTK, AJATT, Movie Method, SRS, etc.

However extreme on these forums is take classes.

You sure start a lot of new threads...

yukamina wrote:

I think you've been answering your own question each time you ask this; study more grammar.
One extreme method I don't see talked about around here is the Listening-Reading method. Basically, you listen to long audio books intensively while reading along. You're supposed to alter between the English and Japanese versions of the text, but I'm sure you can alter the method to your needs(some may not need the English).

I do that sometimes with news but not a lot. I find it good for when I can't read all of a text but still want to keep the flow of full speed reading.

How else do you suggest you use it?

fluxcapacitor wrote:

I thought of the Listening-Reading method when seeing the thread title too. Here's the explanation of it: http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/fo … &TPN=1

That seems really difficult to do in practice. You need to have both the parallel text and the audio recording. That's going to be really hard to find.

Then that seems a really slow process. You have to read the translation, then listen to the audio while reading many times and then there is output practice included in the method as well (off course, you don't have to follow the method exactly).

I don't know, maybe it works, but that seems a really painful way to learn to me.

I will definitely alter the listening-reading method, to my tastes. I don't think i need to translate it to english, as long as i can understand it, it will be fine.

Codexus wrote:

That seems really difficult to do in practice. You need to have both the parallel text and the audio recording. That's going to be really hard to find.

Then that seems a really slow process. You have to read the translation, then listen to the audio while reading many times and then there is output practice included in the method as well (off course, you don't have to follow the method exactly).

I don't know, maybe it works, but that seems a really painful way to learn to me.

(leechblock ate my post and now I have to type it again...)

There are plenty of audiobooks in the audiobook sticky. I don't think parallel texts are necessary, as long as you do have both texts. I did come up with a way to make make-shift parallel texts online by using the split browser addon to put one site on the left and the other on the right.

The key to L-Ring is probably a love of reading. You've got to enjoy the text... I tried L-Ring Natsume Souseki's Kokoro, but it was so boring I couldn't go back to it to read it again.

Codexus wrote:

fluxcapacitor wrote:

I thought of the Listening-Reading method when seeing the thread title too. Here's the explanation of it: http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/fo … &TPN=1

That seems really difficult to do in practice. You need to have both the parallel text and the audio recording. That's going to be really hard to find.

Then that seems a really slow process. You have to read the translation, then listen to the audio while reading many times and then there is output practice included in the method as well (off course, you don't have to follow the method exactly).

I don't know, maybe it works, but that seems a really painful way to learn to me.

Nah, do it with a language you're already fairly comfortable with, though, and don't bother using a translation.  That would indeed be painful.  It's hard enough following some things in one language, much less TWO.  Seriously, have you ever tried thinking in two languages at the same time?  It's hard.

One book, one audio file.  Lounge back and conquer.

My 12 year old cousin still does it with his native language, English.

thegeelonghellswan wrote:

How about stop speaking english? That's pretty extreme.

I don´t think so.

I'm not exactly sure whether what I'm doing is the Reading-Listening method, but I love reading the Harry Potter book whilst listening to the audiobook. I've done it about 2 or 3 times now. I find that it really helps to speed up my reading ability. For words/sentences that I can read, I can now read them as fast or faster than the narrator's pace. For words that I can't read, the audiobook helps you to keep going without breaking the pace of your reading.

lol. Yea i get lazy with english at times, so my posts (majority of them will have incorrect sentence structure and grammer). I'll just do whatever i've been doing and create a greater immersion environment and just increase the amount done if possible.

I do have a japanese friend, but he goes to a different school then me. So not enough time, as for stop speaking english that's impossible task lol. I use it majority of the day.

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