Review mode enhancement proposal

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denkbert New member
From: Germany Registered: 2008-12-28 Posts: 1

Hello thar,

I wanted to propose the introduction of a writing field in the study mode. It'd be great if you could draw the kanji with your mouse on the white field when getting asked, it could look like this:

http://www.denkbert.de/stuff/sumisho/flashcard-enhancement.jpg

I'm pretty sure this could be done with flash or javascript. There would also be absolutely no need for an optical recognition, a conversion or anything like that since you would get the result when you flip the card anyway.

I think it could enhance the learning experience quite a lot and I'd be very glad to see this feature introduced.

What do the other users think about this?

P.S.: Sorry if someone already implement this via a Javascript or Greasemonkey, I looked through the threads but I didn't actually find something like it ...

Tobberoth Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2008-08-25 Posts: 3364

Seems to me like a perfect way to get problems with your arm, and wearing out your mouse. Just write with a finger in your palm.

coverup Member
From: 神戸 Registered: 2008-05-21 Posts: 111

agreed w Tobberoth

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shirokuro Member
From: Canada Registered: 2009-10-13 Posts: 193

I recommend writing out all of your kanji reviews using a Buddha Board. wink

Edit: In all seriousness, I actually think it's a really cool suggestion, denkbert! I don't actually use the kanji study program on this site, but I think I'd like this feature if I did. But, it seems like it might make pages take longer to load, and I usually find writing (in any language) using a mouse pretty hard anyways. (I think this would work well if you used something like a stylus or a tablet, though.) It's also not really necessary, since you can just trace the kanji on your palm like Tobberoth said, or write them out on paper. (I do the latter, but it's not the most environmentally-friendly option, unfortunately.) You could also just be super-cool and use a drawing program like MS Paint or Gpaint to achieve the same effect (albeit in a slightly less well-integrated fashion). tongue

Last edited by shirokuro (2010 January 06, 10:29 pm)

ファブリス Administrator
From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

denkbert wrote:

I think it could enhance the learning experience quite a lot and I'd be very glad to see this feature introduced.

This was suggested a few times before. I am unconvinced as to the pedagogic (is that the word?) value, any way the value for learning kanji, of said feature. You won't learn motor skills linked to writing with a pen in your hand. It's difficult to write properly with a mouse, and most users don't have a graphics tablet. Writing kanji with the finger on a touch screen is probably just as bad if not worse due to lack of precision, or the software does a lot of smoothing, which makes the motor skills even less relevant and misleading (if you think it will apply anywhere outside the said feature).

This feature is usually linked to character recognition and searching in a dictionary, but in a kanji review application I remain unconvinced so far.

That said you can indeed do it with a Greasemonkey script, the way you describe it. It's not very difficult, either drawing a bunch of small DIVs for Internet Exploder compatibility, or using the canvas of HTML 5 in all other decent browsers.  ;-)

shirokuro Member
From: Canada Registered: 2009-10-13 Posts: 193

ファブリス wrote:

I am unconvinced as to the pedagogic (is that the word?) value

Pedagogy refers to "the principles, practice, or profession of teaching" (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pedagogy). I would write "educational value," but it was still perfectly clear what you meant. smile

Last edited by shirokuro (2010 January 07, 3:41 am)

kazelee Rater Mode
From: ohlrite Registered: 2008-06-18 Posts: 2132 Website

Tobberoth wrote:

Seems to me like a perfect way to get problems with your arm, and wearing out your mouse. Just write with a finger in your palm.

Unless you've got a tablet smile

ファブリス Administrator
From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

By the way I could see the value with character recognition, with stroke order instructions  or a guide to the overall shape and balance of the character (on a grid), which could translate a little bit to paper. but that's an order of magnitude beyond just drawing the character..

lagwagon555 Member
Registered: 2009-04-17 Posts: 164

While I doubt it's usability on a normal PC (wouldn't it take far too long, and be too messy to draw with a mouse?), but if you have a tablet, wow that would make things so easy.

Reply #10 - 2010 January 07, 7:46 pm
Nii87 Member
From: Australia Registered: 2009-03-27 Posts: 371

Bah! Just use a pen and paper!

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