Mmmm, let's hope they didn't steal their data this time.

Codexus wrote:

Mmmm, let's hope they didn't steal their data this time.

That's just wrong 0.0


Unless they settled, of course.

Been using it for an hour or two now and it already knows loads about my writing style and it can only get better.

Looks great, but I'm a bit confused about the 'privacy'/secret mode and how it differs from the other check box about sending statistics to Google. That is, is the former an opt-out of the 'social' aspect, or is the latter an opt-in for the social aspect...

At the moment, I'm assuming that you must opt-out of sharing your usage, and this is a two-way effect, so you also don't receive the benefits of it? With the other check box about statistics being more related to general beta stuff.

Last edited by nest0r (2009 December 03, 2:21 am)

nest0r (quoting the asiajin blog) wrote:

You can optionally send all your typing and choices to Google server to improve their social dictionary for better conversion algorithm,

That blog doesn't seem to be quite right -- the FAQ says it will send google "OS情報、カスタマイズ情報、打鍵数などの統計情報、クラッシュレポート", but not your actual typing (I didn't think google would be quite silly enough to produce a keylogger in a shiny wrapping )

The 'privacy' mode on the other hand is a quick tickybox to disable it using any information it's learnt from your individual typing (words added to its dictionary, guesses about which words you use, etc). I assume this is so you can let your mother borrow the computer without worrying that the IME will autocomplete some innocuous word with something that would reveal how much time you spent writing dodgy fanfic...

Oh sweet...wonder how long before this makes its way onto my Android phone.

pm215 wrote:

nest0r (quoting the asiajin blog) wrote:

You can optionally send all your typing and choices to Google server to improve their social dictionary for better conversion algorithm,

That blog doesn't seem to be quite right -- the FAQ says it will send google "OS情報、カスタマイズ情報、打鍵数などの統計情報、クラッシュレポート", but not your actual typing (I didn't think google would be quite silly enough to produce a keylogger in a shiny wrapping )

The 'privacy' mode on the other hand is a quick tickybox to disable it using any information it's learnt from your individual typing (words added to its dictionary, guesses about which words you use, etc). I assume this is so you can let your mother borrow the computer without worrying that the IME will autocomplete some innocuous word with something that would reveal how much time you spent writing dodgy fanfic...

Ahh, this makes sense, thanks--I was wondering that in a paranoid way, too. Ha, I never would have thought of an IME version of those kinds of privacy tweaks ppl have. Guess I'm not immersed enough.

I guess if they're using their web crawling data, someone could still complain about it. Ah Google, I love them taking and disseminating information, but the fact that it's one company bothers me.

Last edited by nest0r (2009 December 03, 12:09 pm)

Just downloaded it, seems very nice, the suggestions are definitely better than MS IME.

It does annoy me that it still has the MS IME problems.
1. Writing in capitals produce romaji. WHY!? Learn from OS X please, we want katakana.
2. Why is "direct input" always assuming I have a US keyboard? I do not! I want my åäö etc right there so I don't have to switch and can stay in google IME always.

Oh man, do I have to do that for Dvorak too?

nest0r wrote:

Tobberoth wrote:

Just downloaded it, seems very nice, the suggestions are definitely better than MS IME.

It does annoy me that it still has the MS IME problems.
1. Writing in capitals produce romaji. WHY!? Learn from OS X please, we want katakana.
2. Why is "direct input" always assuming I have a US keyboard? I do not! I want my åäö etc right there so I don't have to switch and can stay in google IME always.

Tobberoth lives. Would custom keymapping help? Or using that ATOK/Kotoeri stuff from other IMEs... perhaps there's some kind of Dvorak thingy you can import? (Guess that last bit's a reference to Nukemarine's comment.)

Like, you can change F7 to something else for converting to katakana. Custom keymap-->customize-->import one of the IMEs and then edit the list... (Or like I said, maybe they've got some kind of cool Dvorak or other keymap dictionary already customized and listed someplace...)

I live indeed, just been in Asia/had some stuff to do in school etc.

As for the keymapping, I don't think it helps. It seems to be how you control the IME options (changing between hiragana and half-width stuff etc). There was a way to "hack" the MS IME so it worked with other keyboards. Unfortunately, this messed up some games and software so that I became unable to write in Swedish in those programs.

Anyone else having a problem where, once they switch to Google IME, per-program it automatically changes back to MS-IME and freezes when you "alt-'"? I feel like there's something to prevent that but forgot.

Hmm, actually I think it's just Firefox. Alt-` after Google IME's enabled causes it to freeze. Doesn't switch back to the MS-IME though, not sure where I got that.

Correction again, it's every per-program setting. Alt-` causes it to freeze. Bleh.

Supercorrection: It's not 'alt-`' so much as 'switching from direct input to other stuff' that causes freezes.

Yep always freezing. Oh well, it would've been swell, Google IME. Guess we weren't meant to be.

Last edited by nest0r (2009 December 04, 1:16 pm)

krungthep wrote:

ファブリス wrote:

Added a simple wiki page, feel free to expand it (I suggest Microsoft IME section to go in there as well for now, it si linked from the  wiki home page, under "Software").

I didn't know about the rtkwiki. Shouldn't there be a link to it somewhere?

Agreed, there has been limited activity on the wiki, it could turn out to be an awesome resource, we need a link on the front page I think.