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samesong, I get what you're saying, but I don't think it really matters whether or not you can see date of registration or post count in posts. I really think most people here judge posts based on their content, not based on who wrote them. And anyways, even if these were removed from showing up in forum posts, people know who's been around for a while and who posts a lot. Plus, it just takes one click to see a user's profile. So really, although I can see where you're coming from, I just don't think this matters, although I couldn't care less either way whether they stay or go.

I wouldn't have given it a second though either, but for the past few months I have been posting in a different forum where they remove both of these things, and the end result is allowing newer users to feel less intimated about expressing their opinions.

Of course there are some users that will always stand out from the rest because of their commitment to posting in some forums, but for the rest, they are pretty unknown.

As a new member, you don't feel the pressure of feeling like a "newb", and thus not being able to express your opinion as freely. Of course post count and registration date are still only a click away, but the important thing is that they aren't read first before the post itself.

In real life it's the equivalent of having to state your age and how long you have been in an organization before getting to your point.

Last edited by samesong (2009 November 20, 10:48 pm)

samesong wrote:

Somebody's credibility shouldn't be determined by a post count or registration date.

samesong wrote:

the important thing is that they aren't read first before the post itself.

I agree. But I also think it's not difficult at all to ignore the unimportant data written in tiny print on a separate place from the post content...

So, why are you reading those numbers on the left column? To me, it sounds like you're saying racism is bad so we should hide our skin colors.

magamo wrote:

I agree. But I also think it's not difficult at all to ignore the unimportant data written in tiny print on a separate place from the post content...

Why ignore it when it can simply be hidden? And as happy as I am to see so many people think that that number is unimportant, it still is factored in when assessing a post's quality.

So, why are you reading those numbers on the left column? To me, it sounds like you're saying racism is bad so we should hide our skin colors.

I'm not the only one reading those numbers .

I'm talking about seniority, not skin color.

Last edited by samesong (2009 November 20, 11:09 pm)

Although I agree with you samgsong find me an example where someone has criticized another based on their post count/join date.

Only one or two stupid threads made by people with a post count or two were assumed to be trolls, but that was about it. It's quite obvious which members of this forum provide really helpful and informative feedback, you're bringing this discussion up out of nowhere.

People know who the veterans with high post counts are by name, so I don't think it makes a difference. We'd have to become an anon board, and then we'd just be full of trolls.

liosama wrote:

No I disagree, many of the guys who have large post counts actually know a lot of things and likewise ones who don't have large post counts

Exactly. But you aren't going to know this unless you've been around for a while and are familiar with the posters.


Let me ask this question then:

Why are post count and registration date visible?  What purpose does it serve?

Last edited by samesong (2009 November 21, 12:01 am)

magamo wrote:

samesong wrote:

you might sound like you're one of the rare guys who believe they're related to posters' credibility.

lol this is exactly what I'm against, thus the point of this topic.

By the way, if you feel the pressure of being a "newb" and are too intimidated because of the numbers,

i've been around for a good while.

samesong wrote:

Let me ask this question then:

Why are post count and registration date visible?  What purpose does it serve?

Because this is a place for learning Japanese, and seniority is important in the Japanese culture, I guess.

that's silly.

Last edited by samesong (2009 November 21, 12:06 am)

samesong wrote:

liosama wrote:

Although I agree with you samesong find me an example where someone has criticized another based on their post count/join date.

I've never ran into one, which is why I'm glad to be a part of this community .

You've agreed that the credibility/"e-dick" argument is a non-issue here, so it seems like your main concern is that "newbs" will be reluctant to post here, right?

liosama wrote:

Regardless, wherever one goes they are subject to fear of expressing their opinion when they join clubs or what not, is mostly a problem they have to deal with by themselves. Sometimes a club can be kind towards new people or just indifferent which is a good thing, because then it's up to the individual to voice their thoughts and opinions and they'll be respected there on by how useful their input is on any given topic. Other societies follow authoritarian/bureaucratic models but they will never get anywhere cause they are too busy sucking each other off, which as you said is not this forum. (Sorry was that too vulgar nest0r/oracle?)

Exactly. This is basic human psychology, not a problem with the setup of this forum. This forum seems to be very welcoming to new members, so I think this is a non-issue, too.

samesong wrote:

Why ignore it when it can simply be hidden?

Maybe the best "solution" (edit: I put this in quotation marks because I don't actually think there's any problem with how things are now) would be to compromise and have an option to show or hide these data. That way, each user could choose for themselves whether it should show up or not.

Exactly. But you aren't going to know this unless you've been around for a while and are familiar with the posters.

This isn't necessarily true, because some users, like me, lurked for a long time before they registered or started posting. Even more of a reason why it doesn't really make any sense to pay too much attention to post count or registration date.

Let me ask this question then:

Why are post count and registration date visible?  What purpose does it serve?

I don't really know. magamo's speculation that it's based on the importance of seniority in Japanese culture is interesting, but I kind of doubt that's the reason. It seems more like it's just really widespread. It's the norm in most forums I've seen. Basically, it's not something, like you said, that most people would give a second thought to.

Last edited by shirokuro (2009 November 21, 12:37 am)

*Posts for no reason other than to see number of posts.*

I move that avatars be removed as well. Katsuo's avatar has me shaken in particular, and there no way I can match the sheer beauty of liosamas.

Woe is me!

nest0r wrote:

PS - An example of how I use the profile info: The number of posts adversely affects their coolness factor, dependent on much it exceeds the tacit norm based on when they joined. Ex: Kazelee joined after I did, but their post count exceeds my own. Thus, they are considerably less cool than I am.

Interesting.

See, the way I see it is that post count is a directly related to study time and [ removed by moderator. Reason: ....Damn! ]

BTW, kudos on the use of "their." It's glad to see someone recognizing both me and my alter ego.