ありがとうございます vs ありがとうございました

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Zarxrax Member
From: North Carolina Registered: 2008-03-24 Posts: 949

Could someone explain the difference between ありがとうございます and ありがとうございました?
I had thought maybe the past tense one is used to thank people for things they have already done, while the plain one would be for thanking people for something that they are currently doing, or will do. However in practice, they don't seem to always clearly follow that pattern. Is there any rule for which one to use, or are they totally interchangable?

liosama Member
From: sydney Registered: 2008-03-02 Posts: 896

afaik, ありがとうございました is more emphatic. I guess, feel wise, it's similar to how "Thanks" is a little more colloquial than "Thank you" since "Thank you" feels more complete. Likewise to me, the ました adds a sense of completion. Again this is me talking out of my ass.

magamo Member
From: Pasadena, CA Registered: 2009-05-29 Posts: 1039

It's kind of difficult even for native speakers. Some people always use the present tense version no matter what. Other people use the past tense version for when more than a certain period of time has passed since someone did something to you, and the present tense thanks for when it's on going, just happened or happened very recently. There doesn't seem to be a clear cut line when it comes to when to use which, and different kind of thing requires a different amount time to pass to use the past tense version. This seems to be cultural, personal, and possibly regional to an extent.

It seems people who always use the present tense version are often determined to do so for some reason. Using the past tense thanks when it sounds strange could be frowned upon by those stubborn people while using the present tense version rarely causes a problem. You could say some goblins claim you're not thankful now if you use the past tense thanks; they take it as "I was thankful. But now I am not." I don't think those curmudgeons would get upset by non-native speakers, though.

I could be wrong on this one, but I think most Japanese would say ありがとうございます when referring to something that just happened, and a lot of people say so too if it's in the same day.

EDIT: I found an explanation in Japanese:

http://home.alc.co.jp/db/owa/jpn_npa?stage=2&sn=189

It says the past tense version is preferred when it is used with a word(s) that usually appears in a past tense sentence such as 先日, 先ほど, and 先だって. Other than that, my explanation more or less agrees with it. Also, the phrases are sometimes indistinguishable from a greeting like a shop clerk's ありがとうございました , so the rules don't always work.

Last edited by magamo (2009 November 08, 2:22 pm)

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montecristo73 Member
From: Puerto Rico Registered: 2009-07-03 Posts: 66

Arigatou gozaimasu is a general use "thank you" while arigatou gozaimashita has a feeling of completion to it. JSL diferentiates them as follows:

Arigatou gozaimasu = Thank you

Arigatou gozaimashita = Thank you (for what you did)

You just did something which is clear between us, I'm grateful about it, we're done with it and we'll move to something else after this: arigatou gozaimashita.

That's why it is usual for clerks to use the gozaimashita at the end of a transaction rather than gozaimasu. It's not a fixed thing, but you'll notice one being used more than the other in certain situations and that will be give you clues until it becomes natural.

Zarxrax Member
From: North Carolina Registered: 2008-03-24 Posts: 949

Wow I didn't know it was so complex :p
I guess I'll just stick with ありがとうございます except in situations where the other would clearly be appropriate.

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