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Reply #101 - 2010 October 03, 12:22 am
ttenani Member
From: New York Registered: 2010-10-03 Posts: 20

Has anyone mentioned the pdf/ebook/text reader Goodreader? I discovered it the day before yesterday, literally a day before they made me want to have its babies by addding the ability to add notes, highlighting, annotations and markup to PDFs in the software. I now do my markup as I read, then download the marked-up PDF to my desktop and c/p the necessary sentences and definitions into Anki.

(EDIT: also, and the reason why I originally bought it: it does Text Reflow well even when working with Japanese PDFs)

Note: take care that if you are saving off PDFs from a source like OpenOffice, you do NOT save them as PDF/A compliant. PDF/A compliant specs will keep you from popping highlights with notes added up in a window you can c/p from on the desktop in Acrobat Reader.

Only downside is that when you switch windows with an annotated PDF open, at the moment, when you switch back the PDF crashes. But it crashes fast, reopens fast, and reopens to where you left off without (generally) losing any data, so I'm willing to forgive this (and assume it will be fixed - the annotation is a one-day-old feature).

Other than that my most-loved apps are all obvious choices: Anki, Daijirin, Kotoba and Daijisen

Last edited by ttenani (2010 October 03, 12:23 am)

Reply #102 - 2010 October 03, 12:31 am
chamcham Member
Registered: 2005-11-11 Posts: 1444

I prefer iAnnotate for PDFs, annotating, and highlighting.

But yeah, Daijirin and Daijisen are really great apps.
Hands down the best jap-jap dictionaries on the iphone/ipod touch/ipad

Reply #103 - 2010 October 03, 9:19 am
chochajin Member
From: Japan Registered: 2008-07-13 Posts: 520 Website

Sorry, maybe this is kind of OT, but I don't want to open a new thread for this.

I have a new laptop and want to sync my Ipod touch with my iTunes - however, it seems there's no way to get the paid applications from my iPod to my iTunes, is there? sad
I already tried the "transfer paid apps" thingie, but it doesn't work sad

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Reply #104 - 2010 October 03, 9:39 am
kerosan41 Member
From: 青森県 Registered: 2007-11-23 Posts: 143 Website

chochajin wrote:

Sorry, maybe this is kind of OT, but I don't want to open a new thread for this.

I have a new laptop and want to sync my Ipod touch with my iTunes - however, it seems there's no way to get the paid applications from my iPod to my iTunes, is there? sad
I already tried the "transfer paid apps" thingie, but it doesn't work sad

That's odd. If you just choose the sync iPod function they should all copy over to iTunes. Try making sure you're logged into the iTunes store the first time? Not sure if that has any bearing on the situation however.

Reply #105 - 2010 October 03, 9:43 am
chochajin Member
From: Japan Registered: 2008-07-13 Posts: 520 Website

If I click on the "sync app" botton, I see a preview of all apps on my ipod and the ones I bought and basically all apps that are not standard are gone! So if I really push "do it" then all my apps will vanish from my ipod because it'll sync it with the empty itunes sad
And yes, I've been logged in the whole time.

Reply #106 - 2010 October 03, 9:55 pm
nest0r Member
Registered: 2007-10-19 Posts: 5236 Website

So is there nothing like Stardict for the iPod Touch/iPhone/iPad? i.e. A Japanese pop-up dictionary that works in any program?

Last edited by nest0r (2010 October 03, 9:55 pm)

Reply #107 - 2010 October 03, 10:27 pm
nest0r Member
Registered: 2007-10-19 Posts: 5236 Website

Hmm looks like there's actually a bunch of apps that allow Stardict dictionaries to be implemented? Looks like Touchdict or whatever maybe works, not sure if it has a clipboard function or how clipboard stuff even works for iOS...

Reply #108 - 2010 October 04, 2:08 am
Anna B Member
From: Hawaii Registered: 2010-06-27 Posts: 71

Damn! After much grueling research I made my big decision and tried to buy a dictionary for my iTouch, only to find out that I can't buy from Japan iTunes. I am SO annoyed.

Is the only workaround to get a Japanese gift card and use a Japanese address, or has someone come up with something new? The only other things I can think of involve me being in Japan (not that I'd mind), or my Japanese friend being here (not that she'd mind). But I want my app NOW....

Reply #109 - 2010 October 17, 2:03 am
jimbojones99 New member
From: New Zealand Registered: 2006-12-23 Posts: 9

Any news on the Kanji handwriting recognition front?

I'm frustrated that apple has not implemented this from the bottom up. Daijirin's implementation is amazing, my current system for unknown kanji compounds is to write into daijirin to get a reading and a J-J definition, then copy and paste the kanji into Kenkyusha for an English definition, then sometimes copy and paste again into Kotoba to save as a favorite to export into Anki.

However, when I'm in a hurry I'd love to be able to enter kanji directly into the other two apps using handwriting recognition of Daijirin caliber. Is this possible?

Cheers!

Reply #110 - 2010 October 18, 2:40 pm
errtu Member
Registered: 2009-10-06 Posts: 69

rich_f wrote:

Can't believe that this thread lacks the Kenkyuusha Dictionary app. Yes, it does cost money. (Horrors!) But it's been worth it for me.

And I love the Daijirin app. It's fun just to search around for random words sometimes in that weird interface it has.

My only problem is that my iPhone bogs down when I try to switch keyboards.

I can't find this Daijirin app. I only found Daijisen. Would you please provide a link of it?

EDIT.

ok found it, through japanese search. What exactly is it?

Last edited by errtu (2010 October 18, 2:53 pm)

Reply #111 - 2010 October 18, 2:57 pm
errtu Member
Registered: 2009-10-06 Posts: 69

jimbojones99 wrote:

Any news on the Kanji handwriting recognition front?

I'm frustrated that apple has not implemented this from the bottom up. Daijirin's implementation is amazing, my current system for unknown kanji compounds is to write into daijirin to get a reading and a J-J definition, then copy and paste the kanji into Kenkyusha for an English definition, then sometimes copy and paste again into Kotoba to save as a favorite to export into Anki.

However, when I'm in a hurry I'd love to be able to enter kanji directly into the other two apps using handwriting recognition of Daijirin caliber. Is this possible?

Cheers!

Could you give a link for the Kenkyusha dictionary you are refering to, please? sounds interesting

Reply #112 - 2010 October 18, 4:24 pm
harhol Member
From: United Kingdom Registered: 2009-04-03 Posts: 496

新和英大辞典第5版: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id316543513?mt=8

Yours for only $109.99! Really not worth it imo.

Reply #113 - 2010 October 18, 4:47 pm
fugu68 Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2005-11-30 Posts: 115

Or you could pick up a copy of the EPWING version (my older 第4版 was just 2000 yen), and use something like EBPocket to read it.

Reply #114 - 2010 October 18, 5:32 pm
harhol Member
From: United Kingdom Registered: 2009-04-03 Posts: 496

How do you transfer EPWING dictionaries from PC to iPods btw? I have EBPocket Free, do you need Pro?

Reply #115 - 2010 October 18, 7:47 pm
Asriel Member
From: 東京 Registered: 2008-02-26 Posts: 1343

No, I've got EPPocket Free. I put Kenkyusha on there, along with some other stuff I don't think I'll use.

You put it on there through the wifi connection, and it takes a long time if you have big dictionaries, but you can do it.
I'm not sure how to do it "officially," but I had mine jailbroken, so I just transferred the stuff into the right directory. They give you EDICT or something to begin with, anyway (IIRC).

Reply #116 - 2010 October 19, 1:40 am
fugu68 Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2005-11-30 Posts: 115

Asriel wrote:

I'm not sure how to do it "officially," but I had mine jailbroken, so I just transferred the stuff into the right directory. They give you EDICT or something to begin with, anyway (IIRC).

It has a built-in ftp server, so you start that up, and then use ftp on your PC to transfer it across via wifi. My iTouch wasn't jailbroken when I put the dictionaries on. I do have the Pro version of EBPocket though, as I find the extra search strategies useful:

http://www31.ocn.ne.jp/~h_ishida/EBPock … index.html lists the differences between the Free and Pro versions.

Last edited by fugu68 (2010 October 19, 1:42 am)

Reply #117 - 2010 October 19, 5:57 am
harhol Member
From: United Kingdom Registered: 2009-04-03 Posts: 496

Asriel wrote:

I've got EPPocket Free. I put Kenkyusha on there, along with some other stuff I don't think I'll use. You put it on there through the wifi connection, and it takes a long time if you have big dictionaries, but you can do it. I'm not sure how to do it "officially," but I had mine jailbroken, so I just transferred the stuff into the right directory.

I looked into transferring files and started seeing lots of acronyms so I got scared and settled for the Daijirin & Wisdom apps. I tried to find Kenkyusha too but Installous' search function leaves a lot to be desired.

Reply #118 - 2010 October 19, 6:06 am
Asriel Member
From: 東京 Registered: 2008-02-26 Posts: 1343

I an EPWING version of Kenkyusha. There's somewhere I think I may have posted a completely innocent link with 'translator tools' that might hypothetically be of use to someone. Problem is, I'm not sure where it went anymore...

But apparently it's got the built-in FTP transfer service, so as long as you can turn that on, and know how to run an FTP program, it shouldn't be a problem.

Although I am still curious about the one (Daijirin? Daijisen?) That has the better kanji-recognition. The Chinese one is good most of the time, but can occasionally be annoying.

Last edited by Asriel (2010 October 19, 6:07 am)

Reply #119 - 2010 October 19, 7:51 am
SammyB Member
From: Sydney, Australia Registered: 2008-05-28 Posts: 337

The Kanji recognition in Daijirin is ridiculously good. It seems to get stuff right even when I'm sloppy and write it with the wrong stroke order.

Reply #120 - 2010 October 19, 9:13 pm
jimbojones99 New member
From: New Zealand Registered: 2006-12-23 Posts: 9

harhol wrote:

新和英大辞典第5版: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id316543513?mt=8

Yours for only $109.99! Really not worth it imo.

Not worth it for me either (yet). I find the slimmer $30 version works for me:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id298252561?mt=8

I'm not advanced enough in my studies to notice / care about the difference, but if someone with the '大' version would like to explain then that would be great!

Furthermore, as with almost anything on the internet, a bit of digging may even allow you to 'try before you buy'.

Reply #121 - 2010 November 26, 3:59 am
Katsuo M.O.D.
From: Tokyo Registered: 2007-02-06 Posts: 887 Website

Bargain hunters: Did you know some new apps are released at a temporary reduced price (or even free) to raise some interest. Here's four going cheap right now:

The Ultimate Japanese Phrasebook from Kodansha 350円 (Will go up to around 1,000円). 1,800 phrases with audio. Is more conversational than the Core 2000 material.
漢検 2級に挑戦 (KanKen Level 2)  450円 (Will go up to around 1,000円)
Advanced Japanese Phrases, Idioms, and Newspaper Terms From "The Japanese page". Now 600円 (will rise to double that, they say). This is not bad, but the data is limited to a few topics (they say that will also be increased in the future).
JapanGoggles Free (at the moment). This is a simple OCR. If your iPod/Phone has a camera you can shoot and identify kanji & kana. It works well if the image is crisp & clear.

One Second Japanese 1600 Complete Version 115円. This, on the other hand, was introduced at 800円, but is now 115円. It has sound files and an interesting colour marking system, but doesn't really appeal to me. There is a free version with about 60 words you can try.

Also, a couple of others I looked at recently:
JLPT self study 450円.Has a simple, clean interface. Covers N1-N5 vocabulary, kanji, (& grammar to be added later, they say). There's a free version for N5 only. Needs to be proofread though; there are quite a few errors.
超辞典 115円. E-J, J-E dictionary. I just spotted this (haven't tried it), but I'm amazed by the minimalist interface. Claims to have a uniquely useful lookup method. Seems to use an oldish Kenkyusha dictionary with others available at a price.

juniperpansy Member
Registered: 2009-08-03 Posts: 164

Katsuo wrote:

Bargain hunters: Did you know some new apps are released at a temporary reduced price (or even free) to raise some interest.

Katsuo are you aware of any Japanese apps that list these on sale apps?

(eg. For English there is the app Appshopper. It lists all the apps that have been temporarily discounted/free or had price changes recently. Does anybody know a Japanese version of an app like this?)

Reply #123 - 2010 December 02, 1:43 am
Katsuo M.O.D.
From: Tokyo Registered: 2007-02-06 Posts: 887 Website

juniperpansy wrote:

Katsuo are you aware of any Japanese apps that list these on sale apps?

Unfortunately, no.

juniperpansy Member
Registered: 2009-08-03 Posts: 164

Katsuo wrote:

juniperpansy wrote:

Katsuo are you aware of any Japanese apps that list these on sale apps?

Unfortunately, no.

Sweeeeeeeeeet I found it. A japanese clone of appshopper. In the japanese app store there is an app called "みーとあい for iPhone" (where みーとあい is supposed to be in katakana)

gonna check it out tommorow :-)

EDIT: SWEET IS IS BASICALLY A JAPANESE VERSION OF APPSHOPPER complete with crappy 480x320 resolution graphics

Last edited by juniperpansy (2010 December 02, 11:38 pm)

Reply #125 - 2010 December 27, 2:45 am
Katsuo M.O.D.
From: Tokyo Registered: 2007-02-06 Posts: 887 Website

I noticed on Appshopper that "My Japanese Coach" is on special offer right now, i.e. 115円. Having read strong opinions both for and against it, I was curious to try it out.

It tries really hard to be motivating and stimulating, and to give you a sense of progress. There are 1,145 lessons in all. You are given a placement test, but even scoring full marks only allows you to skip the first 10 lessons, i.e. about 1% of the total.

A major problem is bugs. You have to complete each lesson successfully to unlock the next one, which is done by accumulating points in various games. But the point awarding system keeps seizing up, and even getting perfect scores sometimes has no effect. Also there are many inbuilt mistakes that mean some games are impossible to complete.

The solution is (usually) to try an alternative game, i.e. turn the app off, restart, choose "Games" rather than "Learning", select and play an alternative game to the one in the lesson. So far that's got me through (now on lesson 37).

Chinese, French, and Spanish are also going cheap at the moment.