Rujiel
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From: California
Registered: 2008-08-25
Posts: 43
(です)が
けど
だが
でも
なのに
なれど
たって/ だって (same thing?)
しかし
でさえ
I know some (especially なのに) have a much more specific usage, but this seems overboard.. once I got to the third or fourth vocab conjunction that seemed to mean the same thing, I felt irritated.
ghinzdra
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From: japan
Registered: 2008-01-07
Posts: 499
Actually they never mean EXACTLY the same .
Can t remember which distinguished linguist said that so called synonym don t exist .
なのに for instance involves something both unexpected and disappointing 奥様はご主人様一筋だと思ってたのに
BTW you can strenghten this meaning by using instead of なのに くせに which is also more familiar and for speaking. 散々条約違反くせに
だって means a lot of different things ....
among those meaning
it can means even like in 受けた仕事いちどだって抜け出したことがない。 or それぐらい俺だってしてる
or it can mean because like in 人間にとっては、\N死神界は決して無意味な存在じゃない\Nん?どういうことだ?\Nだってそうだろ?。 It must be pointed out that in this case だって and もの comes often together (especially when it s women)
it can even be the contraction of です and と like in 6っ課だって?そうなの聞いて事ないぞ
and there s plently of other case . There s at least five or six entries in a standard dictionnary for だって
According to most of my teachers しかし,けれど、でも、けど implies very different level of language . しかし seems more litterate to me . A strong and old vampire like Alucard in Hellsing seems to use it a lot .
Anyway we could go on and on like this for weeks .... Trying to exhaust the subject would just be exhausting for us . .Actually if you re looking for all the way the japanese express the contradiction there are still a lot more like にもかからわず ,とはいえ,etc...You could also get pissed of by the impressive number of pronoun the japanese have . They have at least a dozen different way of saying I or you . Each time with very subtle difference. It s just the way the japanese is .
I cannot but go with nuke : you ll learn it by context . All those examples come from movie and anime I like . Don t even try rote memorization it s both extremely ineffective and frustrating .
Last edited by ghinzdra (2009 September 02, 4:07 am)
ghinzdra
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From: japan
Registered: 2008-01-07
Posts: 499
that guy is a glitch in the matrix.
As are both reloaded and revolutions. The games . The MMORPG.
They don t exist . They never existed. Those are fakes and hoaxes that are just fueled by fans here and there on internet.
Actually it s sad that Wachowski brothers died in that plane crash just after the animatrix... I wish we could have seen the sequels of the matrix. Come to think of it it was also the birthday date of George lucas death ... Unfortunetaly he never was able to complete the prelogy ... how tragic.
Last edited by ghinzdra (2009 September 02, 6:57 am)