Study Kanji using the I-Phone

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exxel New member
From: West Palm Beach Registered: 2008-09-03 Posts: 1

I had to share because I find it so useful to be able to study anywhere. Two products are necessary.

1. Good Reader: This is the PDF reader I use to read "Remembering the Kanji" eBook on I-Phone. Adobe does not make a free one and Good Reader is cheap($0.99) and works for me, but you have your pick of many to choose from.

2. Kanji LS Touch: Great product for practice!!! It can be set up for testing multiple ways. I set it to present me with the kanji meaning. I draw the kanji on the screen and then it presents me with the correct kanji and I can see how close I am to the answer.

I was especially happy to see it have the option of using the Leitner method of review, just like "Reviewing the Kanji". But I was disappointed to find that although there are Kanji lists oraganized by school grade, JLPT and the compete Joyo, there was not a Heisig list. I emailed the app writer and it turns out although he wanted to include the Heisig list in his app copyright issues were a problem. He did however, include the ability to import custom lists. I was able to create a txt file in the correct import format and can now study using a Heisig list by importing using this url:

http://www.nexonlouis.com/heisig_lists/complete.txt

I think it's a truly great product, but it does cost $11.99. But for the convenience it provides it's a bargain!!!

Last edited by exxel (2009 August 30, 9:45 am)

Nii87 Member
From: Australia Registered: 2009-03-27 Posts: 371

iAnki.

Katsuo M.O.D.
From: Tokyo Registered: 2007-02-06 Posts: 887 Website

"Good Reader". I bought this a few days ago. I had been using "PDF Expert" but "Good Reader" is an improvement in several ways, e.g.

- Renders faster
- Searches text documents
- Searches for Japanese text

I can use my own home-made Japanese dictionaries on the iPod touch now. Very useful.

One small quibble: their documentation could be more detailed – for example it took quite a bit of trial-and-error to work out how to move files and folders around. But overall very good.

The present low price of 115円/$0.99 is temporary – apparently because an upgrade is coming soon.

By the way, there is also a long thread "iPhone Apps for Studying Japanese", though it's been dormant for a while.

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futnuh New member
From: Australia Registered: 2009-07-24 Posts: 8 Website

When accessing this site via a desktop computer, if I go to the Study section, enter a Heisig frame number into the text box, and hit 'enter',  I get taken to the appropriate page.  This is good.  When using Safari on the iPhone, however, I can't seem to trigger the page load.  I can type the desired frame, but how to "hit enter"?

http://img.skitch.com/20090911-qr4nrh7xa6ftbe46wgsci7ni58.png

Thanks for the suggestion of GoodReader, working wonderfully with RtK.

Last edited by futnuh (2009 September 10, 10:38 pm)

PlusTheEffect New member
From: Florida Registered: 2009-08-28 Posts: 1

exxel wrote:

I had to share because I find it so useful to be able to study anywhere. Two products are necessary.

1. Good Reader: This is the PDF reader I use to read "Remembering the Kanji" eBook on I-Phone. Adobe does not make a free one and Good Reader is cheap($0.99) and works for me, but you have your pick of many to choose from.

2. Kanji LS Touch: Great product for practice!!! It can be set up for testing multiple ways. I set it to present me with the kanji meaning. I draw the kanji on the screen and then it presents me with the correct kanji and I can see how close I am to the answer.

I was especially happy to see it have the option of using the Leitner method of review, just like "Reviewing the Kanji". But I was disappointed to find that although there are Kanji lists oraganized by school grade, JLPT and the compete Joyo, there was not a Heisig list. I emailed the app writer and it turns out although he wanted to include the Heisig list in his app copyright issues were a problem. He did however, include the ability to import custom lists. I was able to create a txt file in the correct import format and can now study using a Heisig list by importing using this url:

http://www.nexonlouis.com/heisig_lists/complete.txt

I think it's a truly great product, but it does cost $11.99. But for the convenience it provides it's a bargain!!!

Very nice, appreciate the file upload!

Jarvik7 Member
From: 名古屋 Registered: 2007-03-05 Posts: 3946

iPhone has a built in PDF reader - just email yourself the pdf and open it from mail. I use Air Sharing as my document reader since I got it when it was free though..

yukkuri_kame Member
From: Florida US Registered: 2008-05-30 Posts: 185

I like kanji LS touch as mentioned by OP, because it lets you draw the kanji on the phone and then compare with the correct character, stroke-by-stroke.  Very helpful if you struggle with stroke order, as I do.  It is also good for mindless study while pretending to have a conversation with my wife.

jonsuke New member
From: Yokohama Registered: 2008-03-19 Posts: 3

I downloaded the Heisig keywords from http://ziggr.com/heisig. I then imported this in Excel and did some formatting; Cut each kanji and Heisig word and pasted in a picture editing software; Finally, saved. Now, I have FREE jpeg files of the kanji and Heisig words which I can slide-show in my iPod o PC.

jonsuke New member
From: Yokohama Registered: 2008-03-19 Posts: 3
Jarvik7 Member
From: 名古屋 Registered: 2007-03-05 Posts: 3946

I hope you macro'd that. Seems like an awful waste of time to do every kanji manually

Thora Member
From: Canada Registered: 2007-02-23 Posts: 1691

futnuh wrote:

I can type the desired frame, but how to "hit enter"?

Return?

jzanj New member
From: Washington, VA Registered: 2009-09-23 Posts: 4 Website

There's an iPhone app called Kanji Flip that I bought, and it's pretty good. It's a flashcard program organized according to the JLPT vocabulary lists (you can choose kanji lists for all four JLT levels) and not Heisig's system. But, it does have compound words, onyoumi and kunyoumi readings, and several english renderings.

It really is more of a traditional vocabulary-driven approach, but it uses a semi-random spaced repetition system similar to RvTK's flashcards. I'd say it's a good companion to someone working on RTK vol. 2 or so.

The guy who made that program also made others like Kana Flip (good for hiragana and katakana), as well as Japanese Flip (containing actual vocabulary items i.e. words wink

DavidZ Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2008-11-05 Posts: 81

Thora wrote:

futnuh wrote:

I can type the desired frame, but how to "hit enter"?

Return?

Unfortunately hitting "Return" does nothing in this case.

As a workaround, typing in the English keyword brings up a dropdown menu with auto-suggestions for the keyword you're looking for. You can then click directly on the suggested keywords. 

But if you know the frame number but not the keyword, I think you are out of luck. This is not supported on the iPhone as far as I can tell -- well, as an extremely kludgey workaround you can change "framenum" in the URL string. But this is way too inconvenient.

TaylorSan Member
From: Colorado Registered: 2009-01-03 Posts: 393

Thanks exxel - Kanji LS Touch is bad-ass!  I can fix those nagging stroke order problems!

TelePet New member
From: Hokkaido Registered: 2005-12-30 Posts: 3

Nii87 wrote:

http://www.nexonlouis.com/heisig_lists/complete.txt

Thanks a bunch for the link to the Heisig list.  :   )

I added it to Kanji LS, but it seems to be showing me kanji out of order.  My aim was to use Kanji LS as a means of reviewing what I've already studied via the desktop Anki app.  It does me no good to see something for the first time in Kanji LS and not having a ready-made story for it, or one that I can reference via this (awesome) website.

I feel like I must be doing something wrong, as though may have a shuffle function turned on somewhere.  Any ideas?

Last edited by TelePet (2009 September 25, 6:52 am)

TelePet New member
From: Hokkaido Registered: 2005-12-30 Posts: 3

Developer was quick respond to my question.  Basically, test mode is always random.  If you turn off the Leitner option you can choose a range of kanji to study.  I can study exactly what I'd like.  Once I get through the entire Heisig list, I guess I'll turn on the Leitner option. 

Brilliant app!

Last edited by TelePet (2009 September 26, 2:37 pm)

TaylorSan Member
From: Colorado Registered: 2009-01-03 Posts: 393

Love the Kanji LS..

I imported the file posted here

http://www.nexonlouis.com/heisig_lists/complete.txt

but when I used it in test mode...Crash....

Anyone else have that problem?  For now I erased it, and just use the Jouyou List.

Are all the Jouyou in RTK1?  My guess is that they are.

atylmo Member
From: USA Registered: 2008-08-05 Posts: 124

TaylorSan wrote:

Are all the Jouyou in RTK1?  My guess is that they are.

All but one, I think. "Imperial seal", 璽, shows up in RTK3 at frame 2075. (Katsuo knows all)

Reply #19 - 2010 January 22, 9:50 pm
kapalama Member
Registered: 2008-03-23 Posts: 183

Is it difficult to get this all up and running?

Specifically how do we import the PDF versions of RTK into the iPhone, and how do we get the Heisig list into the iPhone?

Also I can update that list for the full 3004 kanji, but I would need some place to post it.

(Why is there not an official Heisig product that makes it so I do not have to do all this hoopla to get it going? Is he not noticing the millions of dollars spent at the App Store? I have spent $130 dollars there since New Years Day.)

Reply #20 - 2010 January 28, 2:09 am
Dakoina Member
From: Belgium Registered: 2008-11-16 Posts: 68 Website

I do not like viewing very large pdf files on the ipod/iphone, like the version I found somewhere on the net. I prefer to use my book. Anyway, you could put a pdf somewhere online and surf to it. But an iphone app would be a better idea, idd.

Reply #21 - 2010 January 28, 3:21 am
Jarvik7 Member
From: 名古屋 Registered: 2007-03-05 Posts: 3946

iPhone has a built in PDF reader, so e-mail yourself the pdf..

Kyosys Member
From: Germany Registered: 2010-11-22 Posts: 31

Sorry for bringing this topic back to the light, but the link to the Kanji LS file seems to be dead. Does anyone still have a copy?

I'd take a german version as well tongue

oliver14 New member
From: Japan Registered: 2011-01-09 Posts: 4


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Reply #24 - 2011 March 03, 6:35 pm
j100fivetimes New member
From: Tokyo Japan Registered: 2011-02-28 Posts: 5

The list for importing the RTK list into the iphone LT Touch doesn't seem to be working. Could someone repost it? Or send it to me by DM?
Would be much appreciated. Keep up the good work people!
:-)

Reply #25 - 2011 March 03, 8:09 pm
Oniichan Member
From: 名古屋 Registered: 2009-02-02 Posts: 269

It is a very useful app. But, you may get quicker results just making your own list

1. Do a search on google docs for Heisig and find a suitable spreadsheet.
2. Save it, then open it using your favorite speadsheet program.
3. 'Sort' by Heisig number if necessary, then place the columns you want side by side (kanji in left column and keyword in the right column.)
4. Now paste just these columns into a text document and save as a 'utf-8' text file. (or paste directly into a new Notepad++ file)
5. Next format it using Notepad++ (free download) and use the 'replace' tool to prepare it for importing. Tick 'extended' and place "\t" in the 'find what' field and ";" in the 'replace with' field (without the quotes) and then click 'replace all'. This should give you a list of 2042 rows containing kanji;keyword. Save and close.
6. Upload your text file to Mediafire (no registration required) and navigate to the file's download page. Right-click the download link and select properties to see the url of the your new file.
7. Enter this into the LS Touch app.

Last edited by Oniichan (2011 March 03, 8:13 pm)