RTK video for the living room?

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YogaSpirit Member
From: France Registered: 2009-08-11 Posts: 140

Hey guys,
Like most people, I got a TV screen in my living room. I'd like to be able to watch kanji on it. Just one kanji after another, staying like for 5 seconds on the screen. Nothing more. Would such a video already exist that I could load from my DVD player or USB slot on to my LCD screen?

That way, I could let kanji run on my screen when I just relax on the sofa, or simply as an animated decorative painting if you will. I could conceive such a PowerPoint presentation myself, but it would take months to complete...

blackmacros Member
From: Australia Registered: 2009-04-14 Posts: 763

Why don't you just make a Powerpoint of it yourself, as you go through RtK? It won't take that much extra time to add each kanji to a new slide as you go through and its not as if a premade one would be useful, because there's not much point in seeing kanji you haven't studied yet.

mezbup Member
From: sausage lip Registered: 2008-09-18 Posts: 1681 Website

YogaSpirit wrote:

Hey guys,
Like most people, I got a TV screen in my living room. I'd like to be able to watch kanji on it. Just one kanji after another, staying like for 5 seconds on the screen. Nothing more. Would such a video already exist that I could load from my DVD player or USB slot on to my LCD screen?

That way, I could let kanji run on my screen when I just relax on the sofa, or simply as an animated decorative painting if you will. I could conceive such a PowerPoint presentation myself, but it would take months to complete...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdChdA-hp_8

That is EXACTLY what you're after.

Funnily enough in keeping with this forums theme *nudge nudge* it's also called "Learn all 1945 joyo kanji in 10 minutes".

I had to laugh even though its very beautiful.

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YogaSpirit Member
From: France Registered: 2009-08-11 Posts: 140

mezbup wrote:

That is EXACTLY what you're after.

THANKS. Not exactly: almost!
How can I increase the time laspe between each kanji? And remove the music? In a way, where can I get the source to customize the video?

By the way, those ones are not that bad also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhDmYckm … eature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx0sCUEk … re=related

Last edited by YogaSpirit (2009 August 28, 6:13 am)

mezbup Member
From: sausage lip Registered: 2008-09-18 Posts: 1681 Website

you can remove the music by hitting the mute button?

That video has to be like the ultimate cram tool.

I can just imagine someone yelling kanji at their computer screen as fast as they can.
You'd have to really know your shit.

fugu68 Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2005-11-30 Posts: 115

Maybe use something like keepvid.com to capture to an mp4? You can slow down the playback to half speed using QuickTime (Window menu, Show A/C controls then tweak the playback speed.)

Hope this helps.

bombpersons Member
From: UK Registered: 2008-10-08 Posts: 907 Website

Writing a python script to do it as we speak.. Just need to figure out how to use ffmpeg to make a movie from pictures.

*edit*
Awesome, got it working big_smile I'll put up a download link for the script in a bit, also I'll upload the video if you want

Last edited by bombpersons (2009 August 28, 8:11 am)

bombpersons Member
From: UK Registered: 2008-10-08 Posts: 907 Website

Has anyone got a text file with all the heisig kanji in?

Also, to the OP, do you mean a movie like the youtube versions, or one that shows the heisig keyword underneath?

YogaSpirit Member
From: France Registered: 2009-08-11 Posts: 140

I got one. Where shall I sent it to you?
I guess a good option for the movie would be to have:
#1 - one movie just showing the kanji during 5 seconds,
#2 - another one showing the kanji during 5 secs and the keyword during 1,5 secs.
#3 - a third one showing kanji + keyword during 5 secs

#1 for passive, subliminal shape learning and recognition.
#2 for actual testing .
#3 for active learning.

Those movies would be nice for our TV screens, but not very flexible in a way: the kanji will always be displayed in the same order, which may be good "to learn by rote" but bad regarding the memory relying on the presentation order...

Last edited by YogaSpirit (2009 August 28, 8:30 am)

Reply #10 - 2009 August 28, 8:33 am
fugu68 Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2005-11-30 Posts: 115

The whiterabbit-heisig cross-reference cited here has them in order:

http://www.whiterabbitpress.com/forum/i … #entry2296

Reply #11 - 2009 August 28, 8:34 am
bombpersons Member
From: UK Registered: 2008-10-08 Posts: 907 Website

Ah, don't worry I managed to find one.

Here's the script if you like, http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QWEFBIX3

I'll need to modify it a bit for numbers 2 and 3, but I'll make one just showing each kanji for 5 seconds.

What sort of size do you want it? (width and height) Also what font do you want me to use? (you might have to send me it) Oh and also the text color and the background color.

Last edited by bombpersons (2009 August 28, 8:39 am)

Reply #12 - 2009 August 28, 8:43 am
YogaSpirit Member
From: France Registered: 2009-08-11 Posts: 140

So nice of you :-) That's what I call service!

Font: just a nice one, relying on your taste.
Size and height? My LCD screen is a 32" Widescreen 1080P Full HD. I guess resolution is 1920 x 1080.

Having a big kanji  - like making , I don't know, 40% of the total screen surface - and being horizontaly and vertically centered sounds nice!

Just one special request please: I would need the keyword to be in French. I'm sending you the corresponding file straight away.

Last edited by YogaSpirit (2009 August 28, 8:45 am)

Reply #13 - 2009 August 28, 8:50 am
bombpersons Member
From: UK Registered: 2008-10-08 Posts: 907 Website

YogaSpirit wrote:

So nice of you :-) That's what I call service!

Font: just a nice one, relying on your taste.
Size and height? My LCD screen is a 32" Widescreen 1080P Full HD. I guess resolution is 1920 x 1080.

Having a big kanji  - like making , I don't know, 40% of the total screen surface - and being horizontaly and vertically centered sounds nice!

Just one special request please: I would need the keyword to be in French. I'm sending you the corresponding file straight away.

Alright, I'll start it now. I'll use meiryo for the font then.

For the keywords I'll need to modify the script a bit, but shouldn't take too long.

Reply #14 - 2009 August 28, 9:26 am
bombpersons Member
From: UK Registered: 2008-10-08 Posts: 907 Website

Finished. (I'll add the others as they finish) *edit* Links are further down

Heisig slideshow movie, no keywords, 1080p:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AQG217UY

YogaSpirit, could you send me that file with the French keywords? *edit* sorry, didn't realise you'd already sent them smile

Last edited by bombpersons (2009 August 28, 10:33 am)

Reply #15 - 2009 August 28, 9:32 am
YogaSpirit Member
From: France Registered: 2009-08-11 Posts: 140

Hey. I sent you the file on blindrabbits_at_gmail_._com at 2:45pm.
By the way, I see your file is 16MB heavy. Is there a way for that size to be reduced enough so as thta it fits on a light USB key that can be plugged directly to the LCD screen. I'm not sure about this but I think I heard that USB ports from LCD screens are quite limited and only accept very small USB keys, like 1 or 2MB...

Last edited by YogaSpirit (2009 August 28, 9:35 am)

Reply #16 - 2009 August 28, 9:42 am
bombpersons Member
From: UK Registered: 2008-10-08 Posts: 907 Website

YogaSpirit wrote:

Hey. I sent you the file on blindrabbits_at_gmail_._com at 2:45pm.
By the way, I see your file is 16MB heavy. Is there a way for that size to be reduced enough so as thta it fits on a light USB key that can be plugged directly to the LCD screen. I'm not sure about this but I think I heard that USB ports from LCD screens are quite limited and only accept very small USB keys, like 1 or 2MB...

0.o It's in 1080p, 3 hours long and still only 16mb and you still want it smaller? I don't think there's any way to make it any smaller.. Have you got a PS3 or something to hook it up to?

Reply #17 - 2009 August 28, 9:49 am
dbh2ppa Member
From: Costa Rica Registered: 2009-05-05 Posts: 120

YogaSpirit wrote:

I'm not sure about this but I think I heard that USB ports from LCD screens are quite limited and only accept very small USB keys, like 1 or 2MB...

don't you mean 1 or 2 GB? i don't think there was ever such a thing as a 1 MB usb "key"...
weren't floppys like 1.44 MB? Even the smallest usb "key" i can remember is like, 128 MB at least.

Reply #18 - 2009 August 28, 9:52 am
bombpersons Member
From: UK Registered: 2008-10-08 Posts: 907 Website

dbh2ppa wrote:

YogaSpirit wrote:

I'm not sure about this but I think I heard that USB ports from LCD screens are quite limited and only accept very small USB keys, like 1 or 2MB...

don't you mean 1 or 2 GB? i don't think there was ever such a thing as a 1 MB usb "key"...
weren't floppys like 1.44 MB? Even the smallest usb "key" i can remember is like, 128 MB at least.

Yeah, 1mb sounds way too small. What would the manufactures expect you to play with it??

Also what you might need to look out for, is what formats it will play. I made the files in MP4.

*P.S I'm generating the others 2 movies at the moment, shouldn't be too long*

Last edited by bombpersons (2009 August 28, 9:54 am)

Reply #19 - 2009 August 28, 10:00 am
YogaSpirit Member
From: France Registered: 2009-08-11 Posts: 140

To be honest, I don't even know what video format are accepted through a USB port on regular LCD screens. I'll have to test it with your files, as well as for the possible size limit, and let you know afterwards.
I'll do that in 24 hours since my download is blocked for today on megaupload.
I'm just eager to discover your great work! I can't tell enough how I appreciate your sense of community. this is one more thing that keeps motivate me into learning Japanese. THANKS!

Reply #20 - 2009 August 28, 10:27 am
bombpersons Member
From: UK Registered: 2008-10-08 Posts: 907 Website

YogaSpirit wrote:

To be honest, I don't even know what video format are accepted through a USB port on regular LCD screens. I'll have to test it with your files, as well as for the possible size limit, and let you know afterwards.
I'll do that in 24 hours since my download is blocked for today on megaupload.
I'm just eager to discover your great work! I can't tell enough how I appreciate your sense of community. this is one more thing that keeps motivate me into learning Japanese. THANKS!

You're welcome big_smile I'll upload those files to a mirror site so you don't have to wait smile

Updated links:
1080p No Keywords: http://massmirror.com/d022328786d7db757 … 6b7bc.html

1080p Keywords:
(English) http://massmirror.com/0c08b839f71966d1d … 9a225.html
(French) http://massmirror.com/fe32261ef940af368 … 69769.html

1080p Keywords with a 5 second delay:
(English) http://massmirror.com/204e12cf038a482db … a5cc0.html
(French) http://massmirror.com/7dc3323f8ded69949 … 10d97.html

Last edited by bombpersons (2009 August 28, 12:49 pm)

Reply #21 - 2009 August 28, 12:50 pm
bombpersons Member
From: UK Registered: 2008-10-08 Posts: 907 Website

K, that's all of them.

Reply #22 - 2009 August 30, 4:01 pm
YogaSpirit Member
From: France Registered: 2009-08-11 Posts: 140

THANKS so much.
You gonna kill me: I just realize that my LCD screen can only read JPG files from its USB port, while my Home Cinema can only read MP3 through its USB port. The solution I see is to connect my PC on my LCD... or to limit myself to play the vids on my computer screen. All in all, the vids are killer review tools, once you have mastered RTK, which I'm really far to have done yet.
Thanks again.

Reply #23 - 2009 August 30, 5:07 pm
bombpersons Member
From: UK Registered: 2008-10-08 Posts: 907 Website

YogaSpirit wrote:

THANKS so much.
You gonna kill me: I just realize that my LCD screen can only read JPG files from its USB port, while my Home Cinema can only read MP3 through its USB port. The solution I see is to connect my PC on my LCD... or to limit myself to play the vids on my computer screen. All in all, the vids are killer review tools, once you have mastered RTK, which I'm really far to have done yet.
Thanks again.

Ah, I can send you the files in JPEG format if you want? It'll have to be tomorrow morning though.

YogaSpirit Member
From: France Registered: 2009-08-11 Posts: 140

Sure, I'm interested by the JPEG files. You should already have my personal email address...

Argh, I've started working in the office again after a one-month vacation. I hardly did 10 kanji today. Adult life and its constraints are coming back and I don't even know if I gonna be able to finish RTK before February. My goal is to do 10 kanji per day... Precision: I live in France, not in Japan.

bombpersons Member
From: UK Registered: 2008-10-08 Posts: 907 Website

I'll add more as they upload.

Just Kanji (Jpeg Images):
http://massmirror.com/874892144f751fb05 … 1442b.html

Kanji with Keywords [French] (Jpeg Images):
http://massmirror.com/20aedc92df8efec05 … 0e9e0.html

Last edited by bombpersons (2009 September 02, 5:12 am)