Interesting.  Is it better to wake up to vibrations than to an alarm?

I use citrus alarm clock -- http://www.ornj.net/citrus/
I think it fits the bill you posted.
I use it quite happily myself. お勧めです。

Edit: to add my fav'rit feature, which may or may not be documented. The program wakes up your computer from standby a minute or so before any alarm. エコ！

Last edited by chully (2009 August 19, 1:45 am)

nest0r wrote:

I'm pretty sure I can set the alarm for more than one day at a time, you sure you can't do something similar with yours?

Nah, I'd like to wake up with music that put me in a good mood, hence I'm looking for something that can play back my favorite song(s) as an alarm.

I very often have difficult to get up even when I have the required amount of sleeping time like 8 hours. I often wake up in the middle of dreams, so my mind is very foggy, and I don't feel "woken up" at all. In fact if I stay in bed longer than eight hours nowadays I feel worse.

I always feel much better (provided I had 7h30+ sleep time), after I am up and moving about and eating something.. so I can never trust my mind when I am lying down, my mind says "tired, stay in bed, just an hour more". I have to somehow ignore what my mind and even body says, to find out 15 mins later that it's fine and I'm feeling great >_< !! Maybe I Have this difficulty because I was a crazy "nightowl" until 25 or so, it was very common that I'd stay up to 3-4am.

ファブリス wrote:

nest0r wrote:

I'm pretty sure I can set the alarm for more than one day at a time, you sure you can't do something similar with yours?

Nah, I'd like to wake up with music that put me in a good mood, hence I'm looking for something that can play back my favorite song(s) as an alarm.

I very often have difficult to get up even when I have the required amount of sleeping time like 8 hours. I often wake up in the middle of dreams, so my mind is very foggy, and I don't feel "woken up" at all. In fact if I stay in bed longer than eight hours nowadays I feel worse.

I always feel much better (provided I had 7h30+ sleep time), after I am up and moving about and eating something.. so I can never trust my mind when I am lying down, my mind says "tired, stay in bed, just an hour more". I have to somehow ignore what my mind and even body says, to find out 15 mins later that it's fine and I'm feeling great >_< !! Maybe I Have this difficulty because I was a crazy "nightowl" until 25 or so, it was very common that I'd stay up to 3-4am.

up until 3-4 am and have no energy  after that ? no kidding 

I ll keep it short and write a how to do  without the theory

LOOK FOR QUALITY SLEEP not for quantity
To sum it up
1-drink water (NO SODA OR JUICE) about 1.5 l a day
2-get a lot of light  either you go out or/AND you buy a light box or wide-spectrum lightbulbs (even it s fashionable drop the sunglasses too)
3-move
4-give up on caffeine/alcohool/tabaco : it s messing with your system
5-practice power nap 30 mn if you re interested by theory  you can check out  this fundamental work : why we nap
6-avoid fast sugar  and take some slow sugar instead like - nonstarchy vegetables , real fruit . nuts , some legumes

there is still a lot of thing to discuss but those are the pillars

EDIT  oh and BTW to begin with you should avoid as much as possible to turn in at  3-4 am ....owing to various reasons , among which light ,  past midnight you lose in quality sleep.
for this part you should look this article by steve pavlina
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/0 … rly-riser/
try to set up a unmovable rising hour

Last edited by ghinzdra (2009 August 19, 9:09 am)

vosmiura wrote:

Interesting.  Is it better to wake up to vibrations than to an alarm?

Not to this one I think.

Yet another unhelpful post, but interesting esp. the timing!
http://whatjapanthinks.com/2009/08/20/w … by-mobile/

travis wrote:

vosmiura wrote:

Interesting.  Is it better to wake up to vibrations than to an alarm?

Not to this one I think.

ROFL Nice one! I thought it was going to push the bed sideways at first :p

ファブリス wrote:

qhzindra wrote:

up until 3-4 am and have no energy  after that ? no kidding

No, I used to be a night owl until roughly 25 years old and could go to sleep or get up at any time and it didn't affect my ability to concentrate or get plenty of work done. I often did "sleepless nights" as a teenager (coding like a madman on the Amiga... ;-)) and was feeling just fine!

I read Steve's article before, that's more or less what I want to do, but I don't think it's realistic to religiously get up at 8am every day, including the weekends. I'm not old enough for that  

I stopped caffeinated coffee @ home 4 weeks ago. It may explain why my mind feels "numb" on the Fridays when I'm at home. Weekend usually is OK because I move out of the appartment.

Good reminder on the physical exercise! Yesterday I did a Yoga exercise not long before going to sleep and didn't fall asleep easily. I never thought about this one.. yoga is often synonymous with relaxation.. it didn't occur to me that many yoga poses actually give you energy (many inverted poses), and it should probably be avoided before bed! I'll research that.

My current plan is to switch to a music alarm, so I have about the song's duration to gather my senses and to get up. Something like Mouse on Mars -Twift should work wonders

I have an ipod I could connect to a station, I saw some of these but they were really pricey, that's why I wondered if anybody here use something similar?

I wake up every morning at 5.05 AM workdays , week end ,holidays  .... is it realistic for you ?   This morning I woke up without an alarm ....and this is not innate ability or something like that .
in every new project there are 3 steps
1 gather information
2 set up a plan
3 just do it .
well I spared you the step 1 , I provided you the step 2   .... Now it s step 3 and it s only up to you.

about the feeling , be extremely cautious about your own body... the most obvious exemple is water : people just don t know they re dehydrated.... and they feel fine.
Except if you re some kind of taoist grand master or shaolin monk if I were you I ll would trust my body answers to a very limited extent   especially since you seem to live a life a bit hectic , which means your body has grow accostumed to this lifestyle ,  and you re still young , which means your body has an unbelievable ability to make up for daily mistakes .

I ll stop here . I m not specially skilled at lecturing   and I feel a bit ashamed  to bother you when I owe you one for this great website and the communauty that gathered around.

Last edited by ghinzdra (2009 August 19, 4:12 pm)

Here's a funny iPod alarm clock that looks like a mechanical one

ファブリス wrote:

Thank you.

What's the relation between drinking water and sleep?

Seeing as I have such a hard time going to bed early, I think getting up at 8am everyday would be a good start. If only I can find the magic alarm clock that I can not switch off while I am half awake and unconscious :p

Where I work most people arrive between 9am and 10am.. I could get up earlier every day but then it feels strange to split my personal time half before work and half after. I mean, if you get up at 5am, you have maybe just a couple hours after coming home and eating something..

as I said I spared you the theory ....
why we nap which is a seminal work on the science of napping  is more than 350 pages lenght .... if I had to feed you with water related litterature it would be thousand of pages. If you want some articles just google    sleep and water
otherwise on more practical ground take a look at this blog http://joac.blogspot.com/2008/04/how-to … water.html  This is the diary of someone who put in parallel his water consumption and his sleep quality  and it s told in a very matter of fact tone . Obviously there is always some kind of placebo effect... If you re interested into scientific research I find especially fascinating that in spite of all the fuzz around it and contrary to the popular belief "8 by 8" conveyed by american media ,  we have no real idea of how much water we need to drink (engrossing article about this pseudo scientific myth .... that I don t have anymore) .Water zealot are as much a pain in the ass as feminists but in both cases the basis is right .  So as long as you re not overdoing it by drinking 3 gallons of water a day   it can t do you any harm anyway right ? as I for me I settled for 1,5 liter : it s a standard bottle size so it s  practical and it strikes a good balance . It must also be pointed out that as soon as you begin to drink this amount of water , you find yourself more prone to drink ... a water thirst , like some kind of long term water deprivation ,

as for the waking time.... well as far I m concerned I extremely enjoy to have a couple of hours alone before going out . What s more on a off day it means that I have theorically 7 freaking hours available . You know what aristotle said  It is well to be up before daybreak, for such habits contribute to health, wealth, and wisdom. 

in the future I may work self employed .... In this case you can easily see the benefit.... I ll set up my own work schedule .

Last edited by ghinzdra (2009 August 19, 8:28 pm)

i can't remember which thread it was, but someone recommended the Axbo Alarm Clock aaaages ago. http://www.axbo.com/axbo/CMS/CMS.aspx?S … Language=E

Well, i finally saved up enough to get one, and i'm going to make my december challenge to be awake in the daytime as much as possible. My sleep's still pretty horrible in that each day i go to bed later and probably sleep a little too long, but it's better than it was a year ago in that it's much more stable rather than 18 hours some nights and 4 others. I'm hoping this'll make the last bit of difference without ruining my days by making me feel tired all the time (as i do often when woken with a normal alarm).

If anyone's interested, i'll post a review after i'm used to using it and let you know if it was worth the excessive amount of money

Last edited by IceCream (2011 November 30, 10:13 pm)

well, i got it from here: http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/sho … B-Grade%29
it's B-Grade, so it's a bit cheaper. I'd definately recommend this store though, as it was fedexed to me in no time, and it seems to be working ok.

So far, i haven't got on well with the clock though, since i didn't move at all in the half hour window it was supposed to wake me up in, so i got the normal alarm instead of the good one.

i tried the powernap function this evening as well, but it seems to only allow 30 minutes... i've never slept for 30 minutes in my life lol. Anyway, it tried to wake me up when i turned over... except, i wasn't asleep yet.

Apparently it learns and becomes more attached to you the more you use it though, so it's too early to review it properly.

One thing that's good about it is they upgrade the firmware for free, you just download it from their website. So, they've just made an intelligent snooze function, which you can download. I think i'll try that next...