Kanji that are pretty/ugly

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Reply #1 - 2009 June 27, 7:49 pm
Whatsifsowhatsit Member
From: Netherlands Registered: 2008-11-26 Posts: 61 Website

First of all, my apologies if this is a double thread - I didn't find anything.

I just thought it would be a fun idea to talk about which kanji are the pretty ones tongue I wonder if other people would be attracted to the same kanji that I am.
Bear in mind I don't have finished RtK1 (I'm in the 1400s atm), so the prettiest kanji might be yet to come.

So far, I really like:
158 寺 "Buddhist temple"
1011 傾 "Lean" (I like the way you can tuck the "spoon" primitive a bit in the "person" one)
1256 者 "Someone" (especially as it appears as parts of other kanji... it's just elegant)
1427 酉 "Sign of the bird"

I guess we might as well talk about the ugly kanji as well smile here's some of the ones I don't like:
106 少 "Few" (this one's not so bad actually, just a little ugly)
213 暦 "Calendar" (just looks like a creepy clown's face to me)

Meh, I gotta go now... I'll add others later if I come across them again.

Thankfully, in general I think kanji are very pretty, btw.

Reply #2 - 2009 June 27, 8:48 pm
Evil_Dragon Member
From: Germany Registered: 2008-08-21 Posts: 683

I find anything that has 言 on the bottom to be ugly as hell. 警 誉 誓. Enough already!

Reply #3 - 2009 June 27, 9:09 pm
Burritolingus Member
From: United States of America Inc. Registered: 2008-10-09 Posts: 216 Website

麗 will always look hilarious and hideous to me, which is a little ironic considering its meaning. Can you visualize the eyebrows, eyes, nose and gritted teeth? Dang, son, that's one fugly kanji.

On the other end of spectrum, I'm a big fan of 夢 - just looks so elegant to me.

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Reply #4 - 2009 June 27, 9:19 pm
Aijin Member
From: California Registered: 2009-05-29 Posts: 648

Burritolingus wrote:

麗 will always look hilarious and hideous to me, which is a little ironic considering its meaning. Can you visualize the eyebrows, eyes, nose and gritted teeth? Dang, son, that's one fugly kanji.

On the other end of spectrum, I'm a big fan of 夢 - just looks so elegant to me.

Hah! An American student saw me wrote 麗 and told me that it looked like a hobo's face. I can never look at that character the same way again...

夢 is also one of my favorites smile

Reply #5 - 2009 June 27, 9:24 pm
Burritolingus Member
From: United States of America Inc. Registered: 2008-10-09 Posts: 216 Website

Aijin wrote:

Hah! An American student saw me wrote 麗 and told me that it looked like a hobo's face. I can never look at that character the same way again...

Haha, it does look like a hobo! http://ryouko.imsb.nrc.ca/cgi-bin/wwwjdic?162151_%CE%EF

Reply #6 - 2009 June 27, 11:35 pm
bflatnine Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2008-10-10 Posts: 360 Website

I also like 夢, and I like the 鬥 primitive. Little different from 門. A funny one is 囧, which gets used a lot as a sad smiley. I've always thought 笑 kinda looked like the face of a laughing cat.

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Reply #7 - 2009 June 27, 11:43 pm
nest0r Member
Registered: 2007-10-19 Posts: 5236 Website

Your 母 is pretty ugly.

Reply #8 - 2009 June 27, 11:45 pm
Wally Member
Registered: 2009-02-04 Posts: 276

bflatnine wrote:

I also like 夢, and I like the 鬥 primitive. Little different from 門. A funny one is 囧, which gets used a lot as a sad smiley. I've always thought 笑 kinda looked like the face of a laughing cat.

I have *never*, *ever* seen a cat laugh.  smile

Several thousand years ago the Egyptians thought they were gods -- because the reflection of fire in a cat's eyes was thought to reveal where the sun god went at night.

The cats have never forgotten.

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Reply #9 - 2009 June 28, 1:19 am
QuackingShoe Member
From: USA Registered: 2008-04-19 Posts: 721

nest0r wrote:

Your 母 is pretty ugly.

Bahahaha

Reply #10 - 2009 June 28, 2:02 am
magamo Member
From: Pasadena, CA Registered: 2009-05-29 Posts: 1039

Burritolingus wrote:

Aijin wrote:

Hah! An American student saw me wrote 麗 and told me that it looked like a hobo's face. I can never look at that character the same way again...

Haha, it does look like a hobo! http://ryouko.imsb.nrc.ca/cgi-bin/wwwjdic?162151_%CE%EF

Can't unsee it.

Reply #11 - 2009 June 28, 3:14 am
Machine_Gun_Cat Member
From: auckland Registered: 2009-01-22 Posts: 184

I love the Beans/table primitive and I love the "sow" primitive
My favourite Kanji at  the moment are 遠、激 and 疑 Is really fun to write for some reason

As for ugly ones
忙ーWhat the ****
毎ーIs a pain in The ass
And 赤 I just don't like it, never have

AND simplified chines- what the ****, I know it isn't particularly culturally sensitive to say so but oh my god could they mutilate the traditional Hanzhi worse if they were trying
I especially detest
gate:門=门
Piggy bank:湯 Becomes 汤
飛 Becomes 飞 *Vomits*
個 Becomes the "retard umbrella” 个
馬ー马
And perhap the most offensive
龍 Becomes this mucked up thing here 龙

Reply #12 - 2009 June 28, 3:29 am
strugglebunny Member
From: Okachimachi Registered: 2007-11-10 Posts: 139 Website

Machine_Gun_Cat wrote:

I love the Beans/table primitive and I love the "sow" primitive
My favourite Kanji at  the moment are 遠、激 and 疑 Is really fun to write for some reason

As for ugly ones
忙ーWhat the ****
毎ーIs a pain in The ass
And 赤 I just don't like it, never have

AND simplified chines- what the ****, I know it isn't particularly culturally sensitive to say so but oh my god could they mutilate the traditional Hanzhi worse if they were trying
I especially detest
gate:門=门
Piggy bank:湯 Becomes 汤
飛 Becomes 飞 *Vomits*
個 Becomes the "retard umbrella” 个
馬ー马
And perhap the most offensive
龍 Becomes this mucked up thing here 龙

I love how you censor "****" all the way through you post until you reach the last line smile.

My favorite is 為. I just love writing it and how it looks. It's a shame its not really used with suru anymore; you can't even get it to show up in Windows IME (is that what it's called?) My goal while in Japan will beto bring it back into style. Haha

I hate writing anything with the wind radical/primitive. I just can't make it look good, and most kanji with it in it look stupid.

EDIT: I guess the board self censors...sort of. I didn't know that.

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Reply #13 - 2009 June 28, 3:46 am
liosama Member
From: sydney Registered: 2008-03-02 Posts: 896

Most kanji written in caligraphy are beatiful. My favourites though are





夢 (chinese style)

Reply #14 - 2009 June 28, 3:55 am
dat5h Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2008-07-15 Posts: 160 Website

magamo wrote:

Burritolingus wrote:

Aijin wrote:

Hah! An American student saw me wrote 麗 and told me that it looked like a hobo's face. I can never look at that character the same way again...

Haha, it does look like a hobo! http://ryouko.imsb.nrc.ca/cgi-bin/wwwjdic?162151_%CE%EF

Can't unsee it.

I laughed so hard, but my girlfriend scolded me for "bad learning techniques." Though, she thought it was funny, too big_smile

Reply #15 - 2009 June 29, 11:59 am
undead_saif Member
From: Mother Earth Registered: 2009-01-28 Posts: 635

The most beautiful is 夢, no doubt!
Every kanji with "turkey" primitive is ugly, eww.

Reply #16 - 2009 June 29, 12:23 pm
Musashi Member
From: Netherlands Registered: 2008-09-22 Posts: 403

Nice ones:

發 (not発)







ugly ones:






仏 (it used to be nice -->佛)

Reply #17 - 2009 June 29, 12:46 pm
Tobberoth Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2008-08-25 Posts: 3364

I personally think 互 is the best looking kanji. It's just... awesome.

There are TONS of shitty looking kanji, I really don't feel like listing them. 匁 is an example though, yuk.

Reply #18 - 2009 June 29, 12:59 pm
yukamina Member
From: Canada Registered: 2006-01-09 Posts: 761

忙 I think this one looks awkward.
And since Hanzi were brought up, I think simplified hanzi like 广 and 飞 look terrible.
Then there's this: 邊 Really really ugly stack of random pieces...

Reply #19 - 2009 June 29, 2:50 pm
nac_est Member
From: Italy Registered: 2006-12-12 Posts: 617 Website

yukamina wrote:

I think simplified hanzi like 广 and 飞 look terrible.

Instead I find those intriguing, mysterious. It's like they have invisible elements inside. I wonder what would be a good story for those tongue

Reply #20 - 2009 June 29, 5:00 pm
yukamina Member
From: Canada Registered: 2006-01-09 Posts: 761

nac_est wrote:

yukamina wrote:

I think simplified hanzi like 广 and 飞 look terrible.

Instead I find those intriguing, mysterious. It's like they have invisible elements inside. I wonder what would be a good story for those tongue

To me it's like the people who simplified them couldn't be arsed to some up with something better. Like when various complex components get simplified into 又, with no apparent rule. Your view is more enjoyable, though :p

Reply #21 - 2009 June 29, 5:13 pm
Tobberoth Member
From: Sweden Registered: 2008-08-25 Posts: 3364

Agreed about 又. For example, 欢. How could anyone guess it's supposed to be 歓? (Technically, it's 歡, but still.)

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Reply #22 - 2009 July 02, 3:51 pm
Whatsifsowhatsit Member
From: Netherlands Registered: 2008-11-26 Posts: 61 Website

Yay, I agree with just about everyone tongue

I found another pretty one:
1592 陰 "Shade" (I don't particularly like the "pinnacle" primitive, but I like how it looks like a sort of Z in the right half, with maybe a kind of bridge running over it or something. I like to write it such that the bottom half of the diagonal of that Z can be thought of as extending straight from the top half of the diagonal, if you know what I mean.)

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Reply #23 - 2009 July 02, 4:35 pm
Nukemarine Member
From: 神奈川 Registered: 2007-07-15 Posts: 2347

Any using the 曽 primitive.

I used Heisig's suggestion of a tongue wagging monster, thought of such many times. I always see eyebrows, eyes and a mouth there.

Granted, since I started movie method, I attached そう to Pirates of the Caribbean, and 曽 brings up images of Davy Jones. Still works I guess.

Reply #24 - 2009 July 02, 6:17 pm
bflatnine Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2008-10-10 Posts: 360 Website

yukamina wrote:

nac_est wrote:

yukamina wrote:

I think simplified hanzi like 广 and 飞 look terrible.

Instead I find those intriguing, mysterious. It's like they have invisible elements inside. I wonder what would be a good story for those tongue

To me it's like the people who simplified them couldn't be arsed to some up with something better. Like when various complex components get simplified into 又, with no apparent rule. Your view is more enjoyable, though :p

There was a legitimate reason for each simplification. It's not like some guys just sat around and thought of ways to make them have fewer strokes. Many of the simplifications were standardized from shorthand or straightened out cursive forms (訁vs. 讠, 應 vs. 应). Some reverted back to original forms of characters which had changed over time (無 vs. 无). A lot of phonetics were changed to make more sense in Mandarin if the phonetic in the traditional character didn't (鐘 vs. 钟).

This isn't to say that I like the simplifications; I don't. I think they should have kept those forms as they were: cursive forms, archaic forms, etc. But there was a lot of thought and research that went into it.

Reply #25 - 2009 July 02, 7:39 pm
dbh2ppa Member
From: Costa Rica Registered: 2009-05-05 Posts: 120

IceCream wrote:

犯 is pretty 想 is funny. I hate writing anything with a road. i like 脱. 悪 is nice too. wonder why they make the nice ones for bad things?

hmm... how is 脱 a bad thing?


i think 米 is pretty, 果 too... 虫 and 色 too... and anything with 豕.
亡, 尉, 慰 and 熟 are definitely not pretty.