Nuriko wrote:

...the man dies and people are still talking about his nose.

No, not just the nose -- that's a gross oversimplification.  What people are talking about is why a man with so much obvious talent would, voluntarily, mutilate his own appearance to the point that he became a caricature.  It's a valid topic of conjecture, one that people don't dwell on eternally, but one that any thread about the man, including that of his unfortunate passing, is going to include.

ghinzdra wrote:

I would rather say  the man dies and people start talking about him again.... how he was great , how they're happy to see this f.... n..... and child molester at last dead, how he was a symbol for the black people ,.... bla bla bla  . You have paris hilton's quotes  right next franck sinatra's and fred astaire's  !!!
it's slightly pathetic . The sudden surge in the sales of his albums in the wake of his death is even more pathethic. C'mon if you loved his music you didn't have to wait up his death to buy his albums . And if you were not so much in love with it I don't see the point of buying it now. while the guy was a financial wreck  there is this splash of cash the very moment he doesn't it anymore.

The whole damn circus makes me sick.

I tend to agree, and it is in fact a circus.  The news cycle got a gift, since the Iranian demonstrations seem to have cooled off, Mr. Kim hasn't attacked Hawaii, and the financial system seems to have shed itself of immediate systemic risk.

Tune in again next week to see who has decided what is hot. 

KREVA wrote:

Wally wrote:

And while I'm sure his father could have been a son of a bitch, a lot of people survive fathers that are sons of bitches without so much apparent damage.

Well, apparently he was one of the few who was, indeed, damaged.

Obviously.  But damaged by the father, or damaged by so much success, so much money, and so many sycophants?  Or by a combination of all of the above.  I suspect few of us, very few, would escape an environment in which we had almost unlimited funds, and all the people around us where constantly telling us that we were a kind of god, psychologically unscathed.

Micheal wasn't the first, and he won't be the last.

I want to add here that I really was inclined to like the guy.  He was a showman extraordinaire, and seemed like a pretty nice fellow.  But to look at what he was doing to himself made even people who were inclined to like him cringe.  Obviously, there was an inner Michael that none of us can claim to know.

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Though I think he was great at one point (I remember in the UK when we had 4 (or maybe 3) TV channels a big event where they had a midnight première of Thriller and it was all over the news/ papers) but he did change his music style and that turned a lot of people off. I think that his weirdness and problems with child abuse allegations did cause his to go a bit loopy, but with someone so famous and rich its hard to know if they were true or people were after his money.

To me he feels like Elvis - in another era and not very relevant to today.  Like someone posted Bad was my turn off point, MJ as a tough guy? MMmm I think not. But the vid for 'they way you make me feel' (I think thats the name) where he chased a woman down an alley just creeped me out and that was the real death for me. His groin grabbing was kinda weird too and so was the shirt ripping off. I think because he was kinda child like but in a mans body it all felt very strange. Bleh, creepy.

Still its sad hes dead. He was obviously in pain (physically too) and the pain killing addiction was well known, but with all his friends help its sad he couldn't get off them.

undead_saif wrote:

He was a special singer though, nobody can deny it, RIP.

I would say the ultimate entertainer ( or the total package).

liosama wrote:

Nukemarine wrote:

Since this is a Kanji forum, let's use a primitive to memorialize him.

I nominate the finger primitive.

sifn't walking leg's?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG5NhkxQJQc

liosama wrote:

Nukemarine wrote:

Since this is a Kanji forum, let's use a primitive to memorialize him.

I nominate the finger primitive.

sifn't walking leg's?

Isn't the sunglass primitive actually supposed to be a pair of dancing legs? Surely it would be that...

Michael liked climbing trees.  条

Mcjon01 wrote:

I was really hoping that it would turn out his death was staged, and that halfway through the memorial service the lights would dim and smoke would start pouring out onto the stage with that spooky voiceover guy doing his thing, and then all of a sudden MJ pops out of his gold-plated coffin in full zombie makeup and kicks off his comeback tour with the most elaborately setup rendition of Thriller ever.

Far-fetched, I know, but it would have been awesome.

OMG, I can just imagine that. That would have been insanely epic!

Not the slightest bit interested in this Michael Jackson fellow, but I thought this was cool: Ultraman kaiju Thriller dance: http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/12/07/ul … ler-dance/

vinniram wrote:

so much hatred here. what I will never understand is that people who are NOT fans of Michael Jackson are so obsessed with his nose. I find that rather disturbing - becoming obsessed by someone's nose, or their appearance, even though you hate them/don't like them... people who are obsessed like that, when they aren't even fans, those people are ******* weirdos. I have a message for freaks who are obsessed with commenting on his nose: GET A ******* LIFE.

Michael Jackson is love. That was his message. of course, there were disgusting extortionists who wanted to twist that into something it was not, hence the stupid molestation charges. of course, the media conveniently forgot the american legal system(um, did you ******* haters forget the "innocent until proven guilty" bit?) and the media harassed and ridiculed Michael... but SORRY haters, he was found innocent. let me say that again - innocent. hmm don't know how to spell that word? I N N O C E N T.

Michael Jackson is a beautiful human being, but there were ******* weirdos obsessed with his appearance, obsessed with the molestation charges, and these ******* weirdos tried to bring him down.

people from Tokyo to Bucharest mourned him, and cried for him, and love him with all their hearts. After all, Michael Jackson is all for love; L. O. V. E. And L.O.V.E. is all that matters - Japan loves him most

関係ないだろう？

vinniram,
He paid the parents to drop the charges when damning evidence was provided.  If he were a 50 year old balding fat working man, he would have spent the majority of his life in prison and reviled as a sicko.  He was a good singer and dancer so he gets a free pass.  Even my Japanese girlfriend loves him and watches every news clip with star-stuck eyes.  Maybe Japanese people in general give men a break for being 変体 as just part of their nature.  He was a very talented man.  I wouldn't have let within 100 meters of my children.