How to tell the Difference between Cantonese and Mandarin

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Reply #1 - 2009 June 10, 11:39 pm
kazelee Rater Mode
From: ohlrite Registered: 2008-06-18 Posts: 2132 Website

.... series on D-Addicts.

Anyone know?

Is it based on country? That seems like the simplest way, but I also see programs that are joint productions. Also, not all mention the language on their forum pages.

Reply #2 - 2009 June 11, 12:42 am
Codexus Member
From: Switzerland Registered: 2007-11-27 Posts: 721

Good question. I've noticed that they have cdrama and hkdrama categories. Presumably the later is all Cantonese but I'm not sure if just because a show is a cdrama, it's necessarily in Mandarin.

Reply #3 - 2009 June 11, 1:29 am
liosama Member
From: sydney Registered: 2008-03-02 Posts: 896

They **** everything up. I've seen many dramas that were originally in cantonese but dubbed in mandarin, and vise versa.

But it has been a long time since I've used D-Addicts, their torrents rae all too high quality for my shit house Australian internet connection.

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Reply #4 - 2009 July 07, 4:10 pm
kazelee Rater Mode
From: ohlrite Registered: 2008-06-18 Posts: 2132 Website

So anyone know any easily identifiable auditory difference between the two? I saw that Russel Peters comedy special, I wonder how accurate it though.

I plan on doing a lot of listening to the language before I start it next year.

Reply #5 - 2009 July 07, 4:50 pm
Musashi Member
From: Netherlands Registered: 2008-09-22 Posts: 403

Well I don't know D-addicts, I assume it's an online drama streaming site, won't it just be obvious if you click it and listen the first minutes...?

Reply #6 - 2009 July 07, 5:06 pm
kazelee Rater Mode
From: ohlrite Registered: 2008-06-18 Posts: 2132 Website

Musashi wrote:

Well I don't know D-addicts, I assume it's an online drama streaming site, won't it just be obvious if you click it and listen the first minutes...?

If only life were so simple....  sigh...

Reply #7 - 2009 July 07, 5:14 pm
Musashi Member
From: Netherlands Registered: 2008-09-22 Posts: 403

kazelee wrote:

Musashi wrote:

Well I don't know D-addicts, I assume it's an online drama streaming site, won't it just be obvious if you click it and listen the first minutes...?

If only life were so simple....  sigh...

Aww...
But thats no easy feat. tackling cantonese for obviously more tones but also since study material is not as abundant as mandarin. And spoken is quite different from written language. Good luck though.

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Reply #8 - 2009 July 07, 6:21 pm
kazelee Rater Mode
From: ohlrite Registered: 2008-06-18 Posts: 2132 Website

Shoot! Lost another one to lack of study material.

Screw this, I'm learning Spanish.

Reply #9 - 2009 July 07, 7:05 pm
stehr Member
From: california Registered: 2007-09-25 Posts: 281

You can tell by the tones.  The sound and the flow of the two languages are quite different, thanks to the tones.  Another easy way is by learning the numbers 1-10 in both Cantonese and Mandarin, then try and identify when they're spoken.  But if you can't tell the difference by now, then you're gonna need a lot of listening practice.

Reply #10 - 2009 July 07, 7:27 pm
kazelee Rater Mode
From: ohlrite Registered: 2008-06-18 Posts: 2132 Website

stehr wrote:

But if you can't tell the difference by now, then you're gonna need a lot of listening practice.

By now? I haven't even started. LOL. I was just watching a Jackie Chan flick and wondering which language he was speaking.

Just got the idea to hit up the first few iKnow chinese lessons. That'll help for sure.... I think.

Reply #11 - 2009 July 07, 7:32 pm
Yonosa Member
From: USA Registered: 2009-05-12 Posts: 485

The easiest way IMO, is... to look at the Hanzi subtitles if available. Mandarin is in simplified Hanzi, and if you're studying them (traditional or not) then you should be able to tell which is which.(of course unless the Audio is Cantonese or Mandaring and the subs are in the other, then haha, I have no easy way to tell you, but just go to youtube and listen to each language eventually you  can pick them out rather easily, I promise, haha)

Reply #12 - 2009 July 07, 8:09 pm
Serge Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2006-04-04 Posts: 275

Cantonese sounds like a record played backwards.

Reply #13 - 2009 July 07, 8:24 pm
bflatnine Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2008-10-10 Posts: 360 Website

Yonosa wrote:

The easiest way IMO, is... to look at the Hanzi subtitles if available. Mandarin is in simplified Hanzi, and if you're studying them (traditional or not) then you should be able to tell which is which.(of course unless the Audio is Cantonese or Mandaring and the subs are in the other, then haha, I have no easy way to tell you, but just go to youtube and listen to each language eventually you  can pick them out rather easily, I promise, haha)

This is not accurate. Mandarin is written using Simplified Chinese if it's from the Mainland or Singapore. It's written in Traditional in Taiwan. And yes, sometimes you will have something that gives you the choice of Simplified or Traditional.

The real way to tell is this: Cantonese sounds like fighting cats, and Mandarin sounds pleasant. smile

Really, if you can't tell by the difference in intonation, listen to the syllables. Mandarin syllables will only end with a vowel, -n, or -ng. Cantonese has these plus -p, -t, -k, and -m. And they say aaaaaah a lot at the end of sentencesaaaaaah.

Reply #14 - 2009 July 07, 9:30 pm
Yonosa Member
From: USA Registered: 2009-05-12 Posts: 485

bflatnine wrote:

Yonosa wrote:

The easiest way IMO, is... to look at the Hanzi subtitles if available. Mandarin is in simplified Hanzi, and if you're studying them (traditional or not) then you should be able to tell which is which.(of course unless the Audio is Cantonese or Mandaring and the subs are in the other, then haha, I have no easy way to tell you, but just go to youtube and listen to each language eventually you  can pick them out rather easily, I promise, haha)

This is not accurate. Mandarin is written using Simplified Chinese if it's from the Mainland or Singapore. It's written in Traditional in Taiwan. And yes, sometimes you will have something that gives you the choice of Simplified or Traditional.

The real way to tell is this: Cantonese sounds like fighting cats, and Mandarin sounds pleasant. smile

Really, if you can't tell by the difference in intonation, listen to the syllables. Mandarin syllables will only end with a vowel, -n, or -ng. Cantonese has these plus -p, -t, -k, and -m. And they say aaaaaah a lot at the end of sentencesaaaaaah.

I was generally speaking of only Mainland China, but that is true because an awful lot more taiwanese media seems to be available easily over their Mainland counterparts. So in fact it really might be more common to see Taiwanese Mandarin unless one specifically goes looking for the simplified stuff, as far as media goes anyways, then again I'm probably just completely incorrect.

Reply #15 - 2009 July 08, 12:57 am
stehr Member
From: california Registered: 2007-09-25 Posts: 281

bflatnine wrote:

The real way to tell is this: Cantonese sounds like fighting cats, and Mandarin sounds pleasant. smile

Really, if you can't tell by the difference in intonation, listen to the syllables. Mandarin syllables will only end with a vowel, -n, or -ng. Cantonese has these plus -p, -t, -k, and -m. And they say aaaaaah a lot at the end of sentencesaaaaaah.

You've got it backwards ! Heh, imo Cantonese sounds better than Mandarin.  There's so much more character to the language.  I love that aaaaahh sound !

Reply #16 - 2009 July 08, 1:27 am
Nii87 Member
From: Australia Registered: 2009-03-27 Posts: 371

I like the sound of Mandarin better. It's a lot more elegant to my ears and seems to roll off the tongue easily. But maybe the harshness of Cantonese reminds me too much of Vietnamese which I speak at home -_-.

Reply #17 - 2009 July 08, 1:43 am
bflatnine Member
From: Tokyo Registered: 2008-10-10 Posts: 360 Website

stehr wrote:

bflatnine wrote:

The real way to tell is this: Cantonese sounds like fighting cats, and Mandarin sounds pleasant. smile

Really, if you can't tell by the difference in intonation, listen to the syllables. Mandarin syllables will only end with a vowel, -n, or -ng. Cantonese has these plus -p, -t, -k, and -m. And they say aaaaaah a lot at the end of sentencesaaaaaah.

You've got it backwards ! Heh, imo Cantonese sounds better than Mandarin.  There's so much more character to the language.  I love that aaaaahh sound !

I actually really like Cantonese too, I was just having some fun. smile

Reply #18 - 2009 July 08, 4:16 am
stehr Member
From: california Registered: 2007-09-25 Posts: 281

Nii87 wrote:

I like the sound of Mandarin better. It's a lot more elegant to my ears and seems to roll off the tongue easily. But maybe the harshness of Cantonese reminds me too much of Vietnamese which I speak at home -_-.

Strange, I speak Vietnamese at home too (giong xi gon), but I find Cantonese sounds much more pleasing than Mandarin.  For me, it's more entertaining to listen to.  I also like that the numbers are nearly identical in Cantonese and Vietnamese; nhat, nhi, tam, tu.. Although, I also agree with you that Mandarin sounds more elegant.

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