"Refactored" website release public testing

From: Slovakia Registered: 2007-09-21 Posts: 48

ファブリス wrote:
About the Leitner Graph

Does anybody want the "Simple" view actually? (the one with 5 boxes), I could just as well remove it and make the full view default.

please don't, I love the view.
So what about the stroke orders?

bladethecoder Member

From: UK Registered: 2009-04-10 Posts: 157

I think stroke order/direction is too important to be hidden away as a GreaseMonkey script, but people seem to disagree about the best way to display it.

At the moment I prefer numbers at the start of each stroke, like in the stroke order font (though I'm still on fairly simple kanji, so I can see why that would get a little more awkward later). I agree with Stoked that "animations suck" because I have to wait for them; and with the more complex kanji, that's clearly going to get worse.

ファブリス Administrator

From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

I have no immediate plans to add stroke order animations. I haven't seen something that makes me really want to add them to the site, both the KanjiCafe and the font-based stroke order animations/images have their pros and cons.

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From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

rswarsaw wrote:
Extra review on the failed page - so this is just an extra review that still puts all the learned kanji in box 2 once completed

Come to think of it, yes, it does reschedule the card like the Learned button used to. The test gives you an extra review though (and also it can be scheduled for +2 to +4 days, whereas I think the previous "Learned" button code used to set all cards to +3 days). Some users said the Learned button interval was too long for them. This doesn't reduce it, but the extra review should help to improve the pass rate after the first interval.

myself wrote:
As a reminder to myself I won't post comments here until this list is cleared

Doh! Just realized. ^_^ Oh well, I was too knackered to code tonight anyway.

anroo New member

From: Ireland Registered: 2009-05-17 Posts: 1

Heya, just wanted to say firstly, thanks so much for this website. Kudos to you. )

There's just one thing that comes to my attention when using the old and new site - In the Study mode, the stories are listed with the most recent ones coming first, followed by the favorite stories.
I wonder could they be re-organised the other way, since the favourite stories are favourite stories for a reason (they usually work very well) I find myself constantly minimizing / hiding the recent stories so that the favorite ones will come to view.

Thanks again for this website. The thing I'm pointing out is quite trite really.

Cheers,
Andrew

ファブリス Administrator

From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

Thank you, anroo.

I'll see if the "Newest stories" state (opened/closed) can be remembered between pages, no promises.

rswarsaw Member

From: was Tokyo, now Hong Kong Registered: 2009-03-04 Posts: 31

Admin, any word on auto-advance to the next failed kanji after clicking the "learned" button?

ederu New member

From: Chapel Hill Registered: 2008-11-01 Posts: 6

Big Thank You! (on behalf of all the thousands of us using your awesome site.

With a bow:

-John

ファブリス Administrator

From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

rswarsaw: it's on the list under "when you add a kanji to the 'learned' list, go to the next kanji in the 'restudy' list", I'll move it up so maybe I can put it on TEST tonight.

As part of the site rewrite I have improved security of the accounts, but there is also a better password system. There used to be a limit of 32 characters or so, and only letters and digits if I recall. You can now use the whole printable character range, and much longer passwords.

So if you like complicated passwords, please try to register dummy accounts and let me know if anything is broken. Use mailinator.com address if you don't want to receive the password change/registration confirmations etc to your usual inbox.

You may also want then to update your password to something more "complicated" (if you ever wanted to) once this goes into production. Another tiny fix was that when you update your password, the forum password is also updated (whichs keeps the forum-auto login feature working whenever you login into the main site).

Edit: Fixed TEST site registration/password update/login/logout to not intefere with the login and "remember me" cookie of this forum.

ファブリス Administrator

From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

aboros wrote:
> create a way to review the 'learned' list from the review page (even to incorporate into the standard review from the '## due cards' button)

Although reviews shortcut on the Study page can be useful, I agree that all card reviews should be available on the Review page.

I don't know about the orange button though, wouldn't it be better to shuffle the learned cards with the new ones? Or add them to the top of the blue pile, so the (shuffled) learned cards come first, then the (shuffled) new cards?

Amadan New member

From: Croatia Registered: 2007-04-28 Posts: 3

About iPhone, I found the following very helpful:

http://www.sitepoint.com/article/iphone … t-12-tips/

Bunch of examples, good explanations.

ファブリス Administrator

From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

Thanks Amadan. Current plan is to create a "small layout" for the Flashcard Review page, with appropriate meta for iPhone, but not specifically targetted at iPhone. The smaller layout should fit onto the many other mobile devices that have similar resolutions.

MethodGT Member

From: Utah Registered: 2008-01-28 Posts: 78

ファブリス wrote:
Thanks Amadan. Current plan is to create a "small layout" for the Flashcard Review page, with appropriate meta for iPhone, but not specifically targetted at iPhone. The smaller layout should fit onto the many other mobile devices that have similar resolutions.

Cool. I've been waiting for this news forever! (I use Opera mobile for my browser, by the way.)

Shingo Member

From: US Registered: 2008-02-06 Posts: 58

The new site looks awesome, thank you for all your hard work it is much appreciated.

One very small thing I was wondering, would it be possible to see all of the stories you have starred?

Last edited by Shingo (2009 June 09, 9:30 am)

torida Member

Registered: 2008-01-02 Posts: 43

Amadan wrote:
About iPhone, I found the following very helpful:

http://www.sitepoint.com/article/iphone … t-12-tips/

Bunch of examples, good explanations.

Great find Amadan, v useful

aboros Member

Registered: 2006-08-30 Posts: 48

ファブリス wrote:
aboros wrote:
> create a way to review the 'learned' list from the review page (even to incorporate into the standard review from the '## due cards' button)
Although reviews shortcut on the Study page can be useful, I agree that all card reviews should be available on the Review page.

I don't know about the orange button though, wouldn't it be better to shuffle the learned cards with the new ones? Or add them to the top of the blue pile, so the (shuffled) learned cards come first, then the (shuffled) new cards?

Sounds good to me!

ファブリス Administrator

From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

I think somebody asked but I can't find the post,

fyi, iPhone represents 1.70% of total visits:

Visits on the past 30 days:

1. Windows 72.76%
2. Macintosh 18.79%
3. Linux 6.15%
4. iPhone 1.70%

sfwrtr New member

From: Los Angeles CA Registered: 2009-06-10 Posts: 5

I am very happy with the S option in review. Kudos.

I found your website by Googling for iPhone apps to review kanji. I am about to receive an iPhone 3GS and expect to do much of my studying using the device.

That said, I tested on FireFox and Safari 4 for Windows. I tried fullscreen for review mode, as that seemed perfect for the iPhone in landscape mode. Doing so, everything worked until I used the S option. The popup window shows up off the screen, instead of being centered! See images below. (While I tested originally with the browser made iPhone small, I made the browser in the second image wider here so you can view and verify the URL.) Hope this helps!

MrMorden Member

From: UK Registered: 2008-07-28 Posts: 10

Even on fullscreen mode, the test site isn't that usable on Android -- you have to scroll around to get to the buttons, and then when you click "flip", "yes", etc. it scrolls right back to the top as you'd expect.

Screen shot in portrait orientation, HTC Dream or Magic w/ Cupcake release:

Hinode Member

From: Germany Registered: 2008-08-27 Posts: 69

Thanks a lot for all the effort you put into this ファブリス! You make life for us Japanese learners so much easier.

This is only a minor issue, but I've always missed an option to display all the stories that one has marked as "public". Those are normally the stories that one has personally written as opposed to just stories other members wrote. As far as I'm aware right now it's only possible to display ALL the stories, but not to sort them according to whether they're "public" or "not public", even though you can see how many of your stories are public and how many are private ("Stories : x private, x public, x total").

mclin New member

From: Canada Registered: 2008-11-04 Posts: 2

I have an idea for a feature,

I always find it useful to know which other kanji I'm likely to confuse the current one with. And sometimes people put "Make sure you don't confuse this with X" in a story, but then it has to compete with all the other stories to be seen.

How about having a widget on kanji study pages where people can say what they've confused it with it, and then there could be another widget with the top 5 confused kanji or something. Yea, crowd sourcing!

Just an idea! I love this site!

mclin

thermal Member

From: Melbourne, Australia Registered: 2007-11-30 Posts: 399

Suggestion:

Why don't you make it into a full blown SRS?

ファブリス Administrator

From: Belgium Registered: 2006-06-14 Posts: 4021 Website

If you meant creating an online SRS the likes of SuperMemo or Anki that's a total dead end. The web isn't fast enough or reliable enough for dedicated SRS users (creating hundreds of audio/picture flashcards?), even with an offline/online solution, you'd just end up making something that's already done. If you can't be the best you should focus your efforts on something else.

I want to create tools that help people succeed at whatever they do, and for the time being it's helping people learn 2000 kanji out of RTK. RevTK isn't primarily a SRS, but I believe the SRS part is a worthwhile addition and its "features" are sufficient for the purpose of the website.

So to answer your question it's simple, this isn't a SRS webapp. It's a Remembering the Kanji companion website. Later it may be the Hanzi, and then simply Learning the Kanji online website who knows..

Tobberoth Member

From: Sweden Registered: 2008-08-25 Posts: 3364

I do think it could be a good idea to make a KO2001 companion or guide to japanese companion as well. Of course, doing such with KO2001 would require copyright which probably won't be given.

Anyway, I think some people like to use websites such as this instead of full-blown SRS apps since it takes less effort to set up and learn.

erlog Member

From: Japan Registered: 2007-01-25 Posts: 633

The review re-learned cards feature is completely awesome. That's how I actually use the re-learning feature on the current site. I let my failed cards sit for a day or two, and then I run down the list as if they were coming up in a review. If I get them right then they go into box 2. I'm really liking that if I fail a card on the new site, I can review/add, wait a day, and then review those cards before they're put into the normal boxes.

The new site is also visually very cool. The current site is very web 2.0 already, but the new site looks like an awesome mock-up, except you're using it.

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