I cut off the original two *previous* emails were I was polite and you were polite too (it does not bring anything new to the context) we both were nice people. However you expected me to say "thanks anyway" right in there and completely changed your tone in the last two ones, one worst than the other. It is sad how a programmer that loves Japan (reflects on me because I share that as well) shows such rigidity and turns out to be so unhelpful and mediocre. No one is stealing your code nor trying to bring you down, nor desiring to waste your time, please, you are giving yourself too much credit. In fact this thread is just gotten ridiculous. You should be working in your busy project and so should I, every second counts.

Last edited by jorgebucaran (2009 May 31, 5:19 pm)

@Nukemarine I didn't post snippets, I just omitted the first two emails. Alright, is true I advertised our emails here but I was encouraged and basically "given permission" it was his suggestion remember? Of course it was my decision but I wouldn't have posted anything if he had a problem with it. Now what's the problem with advertising all of it here? I felt wronged. However some people praise the heroes even when they are wrong. I am not insulting anyone but just pointing out the truth.

Following are the first two emails I ignored because added little to the dicussion as we both were very polite.

This is the reply to my first email which was sent via this site and I don't have access to anymore. I was pretty much selling my idea of working together.

Damien wrote:

If one of the thousands of existing applications don't suffice
(http://www.quingle.com/softarea/flash.htm), by all means implement
your own project. I know how it feels to scratch an itch, and choice
is always a good thing. However, I'm afraid I do not have time to give
you advice on SM2 or other matters - I am busy enough as it is.

Damien

Then I understood we were not going to work together but I was hoping he could give me any directions or places to go to.

Jorge wrote:

Hi Damien,

Thanks for the reply. I checked the site and that mostly lists dinosaur applications (crap) but I could not find yours. I found a link to http://foolsworkshop.com/reviews/ and there I did find some interesting ones like Cramberry.

I still do think we could benefit by mutual cooperation, like, I work and you just relax and sponsor me.

I will work on mine then and let you know when it's ready anyway. In the mean time can you tell me how did you implement the SM algorithm? Did you simply review the SuperMemo source code or are there any other resources? For instance I couldn't find any place where they would explain advanced graded spaced repetition algorithms in general terms, it was either Leitner or SuperMemo.

Thanks again,
J

Then he said I was saying "I don't like your software" (the complete thread of emails I did post) which I guess he took from what I was discussing in this thread earlier.

Last edited by jorgebucaran (2009 May 31, 7:25 pm)

Yeah I agree, way ridiculous.

Chandlerhimself wrote:

This is ridiculous. If you really want to help people take everyone's advice and make what people want. I think most people on here want an Anki client for iPhone/iPod touch ,android or windows mobile. If you are doing this for other people then you should look into doing that. However if you are doing this for yourself then why are you asking what other people want on this forum? After reading this thread it sounds like you want to make a web based or mac based lietiner flashcard SRS. From the looks of this thread nobody is interested in that.
Right now it just looks like you want people to agree with your opinions and you are becoming angry when they don't.

People like you make a disservice when posting here because they don't know what's happening. I am not saying you are stupid but basically that you just don't read.

jorgebucaran wrote:

The applications is for me but more importantly for the community.

For me and the community. The Mac community studying Japanese and using Rtk, AJATT, etc. Finally, I am not becoming angry, what on earth could have possibly made you believe that?

***

Now, if I made the application for the Mac there will definitely be an iPhone bridge which is something I have wished as well.

Question: Who uses Mac here?

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welldone101 wrote:

jorgebucaran wrote:

[...]
Question: Who uses Mac here?

I have permission from my wife to buy one for myself as a present this August.  We'll see if we actaully have the money at that point, but then I'll become a mac and ipod touch user (excited to have flash cards on the go that aren't paper).

Do you know which one you are buying?

captal wrote:

jorge-
Do you ever ask yourself why you end up in so many arguments on this forum? Remember that not everyone sees things the way you do.

Yeah, I addressed that before, most people enjoy status quo and will do whatever it takes to maintain it. If you threat that then you are the enemy.

What do you mean by how I see things? How do you think I see things? Or was that just an empty comment?

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jorgebucaran wrote:

captal wrote:

jorge-
Do you ever ask yourself why you end up in so many arguments on this forum? Remember that not everyone sees things the way you do.

Yeah, I addressed that before, most people enjoy status quo and will do whatever it takes to maintain it. If you threat that then you are the enemy.

What do you mean by how I see things? How do you think I see things? Or was that just an empty comment?

Some people don't realize that there can be viewpoints other than their own, they think that their way is the only correct way to do or think about something. I made no assumption about your point of view, so I guess, for you, this is an empty comment.

I don't think you get into fights because people are defending the status quo, I think you get into fights because you like getting into fights. Your posts are often confrontational and/or insulting. It's like you want someone to attack you so you can backhand them. Anyway, don't let me interrupt you, I'm still begging for a feature where you can ignore all posts from a user, like other forums have.

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jorgebucaran wrote:

I already tried contacting the developer of Anki (Damien Elmes) but he was too busy to help and said I was wasting his time (so nice of him).

This was a needless, confrontational comment that started the drama in the thread. It's not that people are afraid to move from what already is or that they necessarily disagree with you. It's that you sometimes come off a bit rude or immature.

You were rude in insisting he help you, after he already told you he didn't have time. Unless you paid him he doesn't owe you anything. Where I could from if someone says "Sorry, I can't help you, I'm too busy right now" it means, get out of my face and stop asking me about it(in a very polite way of course). He's just a guy who designs software, not you mom, dad, best friend, brother, there is no reason for him to help you. By insisting on your own views when you ask for people's help or opinions YOU are being rude.

You said you thought Anki's UI wasn't nice enough and you thought it should be more intuitive and eye catching. Other people disagreed or at least didn't see a problem with it. You insisted it doesn't look nice enough and you were going to make a better one. You also said it would be better if it was web based and then when someone said they didn't think it was a good idea because of various reasons, you dismissed it. Why even start a thread asking for opinions if you have already made up your mind?

Yeah Anki's UI is very poor. I am not saying this alone, google it and you will find more than a couple of articles praising the good (thing that I also did and you obviously skipped) and attacking the UI. Some people actually agreed that it was perhaps their only concern about Anki.

I never said it would be better if it was web based. In fact I don't believe myself web based is better. So you are obviously making up I dismissed anything. I asked "wouldn't it be better?" comparing it to FlashcardDB. I wanted to know why most people preferred Anki over FlashcardDB which seems pretty solid. I was looking for opinions. Are you criticizing how I formulated the question? Because if you are let me know which way is better.

I am afraid my mind is not already made up, I received a lot of good input at the beginning of this thread and throughout as well but let me tell you something, you don't necessarily express your opinions when asking a question. If ask "isn't your mom fat?" I am not saying "your mom is fat" I am asking if she is.

I never said I would make a better one. This is completely fallacious. I actually said I would develop under Mac so my app wouldn't be competing against Anki all the way and would only please exceptionally demanding Mac users.

Serge wrote:

Off-topic: am I the only one to see some striking similarities between this thread and "if you had to convince someone Japan is the best place in the world..."?!.. :-)))

You searched me? lol

And maybe there are similarities because... um... well, I started the topic and my positions and writing skills are pretty much the same across threads?

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jorgebucaran wrote:

iFlash looks very promising. You need to buy the $15 Mac version in order to manage (add, download) cards though and for some reason they are doing a poor job explaining what the Mac version does exactly.

You have to buy it to do anything, it's a 15day trial.

jorgebucaran wrote:

Jarvik7 wrote:

jorgebucaran wrote:

iFlash looks very promising. You need to buy the $15 Mac version in order to manage (add, download) cards though and for some reason they are doing a poor job explaining what the Mac version does exactly.

You have to buy it to do anything, it's a 15day trial.

So the trial doesn't let you do anything?

Not beyond 15 days I haven't tried it myself, since I have no reason to. I see nothing that makes it outright better than Anki and several things that make it worse.